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NFT: Shohei Ohtani to play in MLB in 2018

EddieNYG : 11/21/2017 7:20 pm
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Shohei Ohtani’s path to MLB cleared after new posting agreement is reached before the deadline. The New York Post’s Joel Sherman reports this agreement will last for three years, and will be ratified by the owners in 10 days. That means Ohtani can be posted by NPB as early as the end of next week. That means it’s time to get excited about Ohtani free agency for real. It’s time!

The new agreement, the rules of which will go into effect next offseason, will grant Japanese teams 20 percent of a player’s contract if they sign a deal for less than $25 million. That includes Ohtani’s upcoming contract since he isn’t eligible for free agency this years. If the contract is worth $25-50 million, that percentage drops to 17.5 percent, and if it’s between $50-100 million it goes down to 15 percent.

That addition to the agreement was a major negotiating point for NPB, as they have argued teams should get money beyond the posting amount as a way to more fully compensate teams that are losing one of their top players to MLB.



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Exciting news...  
BC Eagles94 : 11/21/2017 7:27 pm : link
I'm a Yanks homer, but I have to think we have best shot at him and that him signing with Yanks is around 50%.
Matsui-san  
B in ALB : 11/21/2017 7:29 pm : link
Do you thing, sensei.
I'm excited and hopeful about the Yanks getting him,  
yatqb : 11/21/2017 7:33 pm : link
but I try to keep in mind guys like Irabu, who failed after so much was made of them beforehand.
Fingers crossed  
dune69 : 11/21/2017 7:34 pm : link
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Give him that massive porn collection, Hideki!  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2017 7:37 pm : link
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RE: Exciting news...  
Milton : 11/21/2017 7:52 pm : link
In comment 13700845 BC Eagles94 said:
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I'm a Yanks homer, but I have to think we have best shot at him and that him signing with Yanks is around 50%.
Not that it matters but I'd put it closer to 75% than 50%. Unless he has something against the east coast/NYC, the Yankees make the most sense for several reasons.
I can't see him going to a NL team...  
Milton : 11/21/2017 7:57 pm : link
...if he wants to DH, so the only other threat would be the Rangers, and then I think only if Darvish returned to Texas.
I'm with you Milton...  
BC Eagles94 : 11/21/2017 8:02 pm : link
But I didn't want to come off as too much of a homer! 75% is very high, but I do think it is really over 50%. When the Yanks can offer you more money than anyone else (same as Texas), DH at-bats (that half the teams can't), a fellow Jap in the rotation, the city of New York, and the history and prestige of the Yanks...how do you choose someone else?
RE: I'm with you Milton...  
Bogey : 11/21/2017 8:05 pm : link
In comment 13700881 BC Eagles94 said:
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But I didn't want to come off as too much of a homer! 75% is very high, but I do think it is really over 50%. When the Yanks can offer you more money than anyone else (same as Texas), DH at-bats (that half the teams can't), a fellow Jap in the rotation, the city of New York, and the history and prestige of the Yanks...how do you choose someone else?


Not to mention a young, rising team with deep pockets.
RE: RE: I'm with you Milton...  
BC Eagles94 : 11/21/2017 8:16 pm : link
In comment 13700885 Bogey said:
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In comment 13700881 BC Eagles94 said:


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But I didn't want to come off as too much of a homer! 75% is very high, but I do think it is really over 50%. When the Yanks can offer you more money than anyone else (same as Texas), DH at-bats (that half the teams can't), a fellow Jap in the rotation, the city of New York, and the history and prestige of the Yanks...how do you choose someone else?



Not to mention a young, rising team with deep pockets.


Yup, very good point. Selling the old, descending teams of recent years...wouold have been a tougher sell even with all the other "pro's." But the direction of the tea for next several years, pretty much makes it a no-brainer. Unless he simply just does not want to be in NY. Because nobody else is offering what Yanks are.
Lots of advantages.  
manh george : 11/21/2017 8:52 pm : link
--close to the top in international $$--$100,000 differerence is meaningless.
--DH
--The massively talented team with the upbeat reputation he would join here.
--Big-city coastal team with dozens of Japanese sports reporters.
--Hideki already said he would help recruit. He has a very upbeat story to tell.

In a DH-less world, the Dodgers would probably be the top competition. But DH probably matters, a lot. I would not be shocked if we lose, but I would be surprised/disappointed.

Consider this: we are already top two in minor league prospects. Add probably the #1 prospect to that, and we become the dominant #1.
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It's a Mets town now  
B in ALB : 11/21/2017 8:55 pm : link
So I wouldn't be too confident about getting Ohtani, Yankees fans.
RE: It's a Mets town now  
BC Eagles94 : 11/21/2017 8:57 pm : link
In comment 13700916 B in ALB said:
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So I wouldn't be too confident about getting Ohtani, Yankees fans.


Ha...where did that stupid report come from again?? I'm a Yanks fan that also roots for the Mets. But that was just silly.
This decision can't come soon enough.  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2017 8:58 pm : link
It's unfathomable that a team stocked with as much young talent as ours could land a 23-year-old two-way stud player at a bargain rate. As others have pointed out, it's just a perfect fit on every level. Go get'em Cash, Tanaka am deathly Matsui!
I don't know where "deathly" came from there.  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2017 9:00 pm : link
Major autocorrect fail.
RE: Give him that massive porn collection, Hideki!  
mfsd : 11/21/2017 9:10 pm : link
In comment 13700854 bceagle05 said:
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Or better yet, show him around the private Japanese clubs in NY that rumor has it Hideki enjoyed regularly
RE: RE: It's a Mets town now  
Greg from LI : 11/21/2017 10:47 pm : link
In comment 13700918 BC Eagles94 said:
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In comment 13700916 B in ALB said:


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So I wouldn't be too confident about getting Ohtani, Yankees fans.



Ha...where did that stupid report come from again?? I'm a Yanks fan that also roots for the Mets. But that was just silly.


It was a quote by Syndergaard early in the season.
The wild card is the Nintendo effect  
capone : 11/22/2017 1:03 am : link
Seattle is a real option
RE: The wild card is the Nintendo effect  
JerryNYG : 11/22/2017 2:11 am : link
In comment 13701023 capone said:
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Seattle is a real option


I will buy him a Switch if he comes to New York.

On second thought, I don't want to get banned from baseball like Atlanta's GM, so we will have to stick to Matsui's porn.
Did they change posting rules?  
Matt M. : 11/22/2017 5:33 am : link
You are all acting like it is FA. Isn't more like a blind bidding situation just for the rights to negotiate?
RE: Did they change posting rules?  
Ace718 : 11/22/2017 6:31 am : link
In comment 13701035 Matt M. said:
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You are all acting like it is FA. Isn't more like a blind bidding situation just for the rights to negotiate?


The posting system was changed a few years ago. Now there is a $20 million posting fee cap. No team can bid over $20 million. If multiple teams bid the $20 million then those teams have the right to negotiate with the player.
Nintendo doesn't own/run the Mariners anymore  
arniefez : 11/22/2017 6:54 am : link
they sold all but 10% last year.
The 20% tax on  
section125 : 11/22/2017 7:01 am : link
the players salary is different. I always thought it was weird that the NPB team just took a one time compensation for a great player and then nothing.

Yanks have $3.75 mill to Rangers $3.55 mill. What happens after this year as far as contract?
RE: I'm excited and hopeful about the Yanks getting him,  
TheMick7 : 11/22/2017 10:02 am : link
In comment 13700852 yatqb said:
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but I try to keep in mind guys like Irabu, who failed after so much was made of them beforehand.


Don't forget the signing of Kei Igawa, Cashman's response to losing out on Dice K!
I'm sure the Yanks will give him the most they are allowed to.  
Heisenberg : 11/22/2017 10:09 am : link
I feel reasonably confident that they will get him
RE: Exciting news...  
superspynyg : 11/22/2017 10:11 am : link
In comment 13700845 BC Eagles94 said:
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I'm a Yanks homer, but I have to think we have best shot at him and that him signing with Yanks is around 50%.


Why only 50%? Yanks are a better organization than Texas. Rangers no longer have Darvish to help lure him. Yanks have Matsui AND Tanaka. Both are very respected in Japan. Yanks have equal money to offer. Yanks are also trending up while Tex floating (IMHO).
RE: RE: Exciting news...  
Jay on the Island : 11/22/2017 10:29 am : link
In comment 13701181 superspynyg said:
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In comment 13700845 BC Eagles94 said:


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I'm a Yanks homer, but I have to think we have best shot at him and that him signing with Yanks is around 50%.



Why only 50%? Yanks are a better organization than Texas. Rangers no longer have Darvish to help lure him. Yanks have Matsui AND Tanaka. Both are very respected in Japan. Yanks have equal money to offer. Yanks are also trending up while Tex floating (IMHO).

I would be surprised if he doesn't sign with the Yankees. It's obviously not about money as he would have waited another year if it was.
Get his pinstripes ready  
dpinzow : 11/22/2017 11:17 am : link
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It's a Mets town....haha  
BronxBombers : 11/22/2017 11:18 am : link
thanks for that one.
He can only make  
TurdFurguson : 11/22/2017 3:37 pm : link
What I believe is roomie wage scale plus the 3.5M the yankees have bonus pool, no? In his words he wants to play two-ways.

Also, if we can’t pay him, what city do you suppose garners the most ad. Dollars?

Rookie* wage scale  
TurdFurguson : 11/22/2017 3:38 pm : link
iSuck at typing
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arcarsenal : 11/22/2017 3:51 pm : link
LOL, wow you guys are still hanging onto the Syndergaard thing?

Sad!
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Jay on the Island : 11/22/2017 4:34 pm : link
In comment 13701602 arcarsenal said:
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LOL, wow you guys are still hanging onto the Syndergaard thing?

Sad!

It's sad but consider the poster.
RE: RE: I'm excited and hopeful about the Yanks getting him,  
B in ALB : 11/22/2017 4:39 pm : link
In comment 13701169 TheMick7 said:
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In comment 13700852 yatqb said:


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but I try to keep in mind guys like Irabu, who failed after so much was made of them beforehand.



Don't forget the signing of Kei Igawa, Cashman's response to losing out on Dice K!


Kei Igawa will be a superstar.

- Stanley in LA
RE: RE: RE: I'm excited and hopeful about the Yanks getting him,  
Stan in LA : 11/22/2017 4:53 pm : link
In comment 13701631 B in ALB said:
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In comment 13701169 TheMick7 said:


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In comment 13700852 yatqb said:


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but I try to keep in mind guys like Irabu, who failed after so much was made of them beforehand.



Don't forget the signing of Kei Igawa, Cashman's response to losing out on Dice K!



Kei Igawa will be a superstar.

- Stanley in LA


B, congrads! Your obsession with me is approaching SpeedyWheels level. Nice goin'!
You're the idiotic gift  
B in ALB : 11/22/2017 5:30 pm : link
that keeps on giving. It's hilarious.
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