MMQB on Saban

of a Starbucks near you.

If McAdoo is let go, I want someone who has some pelts on his belt.

want to coach in the NFL? More work, less fun, more criticism, less adulation. Not nearly the same opportunity to influence the lives of your players.

What about someone like Saban for GM? I feel like the Alabama philosophy is a great one. If he’s willing to do that, he’d pick your coach that matches his style and he’s in tune with the top college players. Is that a ridiculous thought? I think he might jump ship for a chance like that (even though he’d be crazy to leave them at all).

He's in his late 60s. I don't see him leaving Tuscaloosa unless you blow him away in terms of money and control and then it might not be enough.

Maybe he wants to prove to himself and everyone he can succeed in the pros. I don't know. I don't think anyone outside of him knows the answer to that question.

Eating the trash again!

Alabama is Sabans last job. He’s going to coach a few more years and then check out on his terms.

In comment 13700895 CT Charlie said:

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want to coach in the NFL? More work, less fun, more criticism, less adulation. Not nearly the same opportunity to influence the lives of your players.

Ego. The one criticism of Saban is that he "failed" in the NFL. To prove that he can succeed at the highest level with the best players. These guys are the most competitive people in the world.

I would be thrilled with Saban. Talk about a massive upgrade over Mcadoo

He would want a qb in place to take this job. Not Eli on his last legs and an unproven Davis Webb.

The guy is revered in Alabama. Plus he makes over 11,000,000 annually. Think Mara is parting with that change?

Nick Saban earns about 12 million a year from Bama.

Highest paid NFL coach, as of 2016, was Pete Carroll at 8 million

In comment 13700910 TyreeHelmet said:

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In comment 13700895 CT Charlie said: Quote: want to coach in the NFL? More work, less fun, more criticism, less adulation. Not nearly the same opportunity to influence the lives of your players. Ego. The one criticism of Saban is that he "failed" in the NFL. To prove that he can succeed at the highest level with the best players. These guys are the most competitive people in the world. I would be thrilled with Saban. Talk about a massive upgrade over Mcadoo

I feel like if ego was that much in play for Saban, he wouldn't have quit the Dolphins and slithered out of town while denying he was even looking for another job.

He is not going anywhere. His buyout will be huge on top of that.

Has the most unbelievable situation in Tuscaloosa. A paid for mansion, lucrative Mercedes Benz dealership, carte blanche when it comes to manipulating recruiting in Alabama, unlimited resources on campus, completely padlocked job security, a nation of fans, students and most importantly, recruits, ready to do his bidding, etc.

Yet he's going to be the Giants GM?

Holy shit. I'm at a loss.

A rumor that the giants waited for Saban to decide if he wanted to come here right before Macadoof was hired? Or was that just asshat info?

In comment 13700975 cokeduplt said:

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A rumor that the giants waited for Saban to decide if he wanted to come here right before Macadoof was hired? Or was that just asshat info?

I think his people called up with interest but Saban had to check with his wife. She said NO because she likes it down in Alabama.

as some dream scenario for teams looking for a head coach?

He’s found his niche. He’s chasing history with as dominant a program we’ve ever seen.

I never get the sense he thinks there is unfinished business in the NFL despite the big miss with Brees.

And, as mentioned, he’s got it great in Bama. And why would he punish the good folks of Alabama while they are dealing with jerk off like Roy Moore... ; j

that saban will be a capable NFL coach?

He was a disaster in MIA, and you dont have unlimited resources in the NFL to recruit the best players in the country.

MIght as well go after Steve Spurrier...

dollar contract that just started. Why would he go work for the Mara's with very limited authority for less?

A 65 year old with a poor track record in the pros as head coach, coming back because of ego, How long do you think that would last.

I’m not saying he would do it but I would take him in the role.

In comment 13700895 CT Charlie said:

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want to coach in the NFL? More work, less fun, more criticism, less adulation. Not nearly the same opportunity to influence the lives of your players.

I dont know it it's more work when you factor in recruiting.

Reached out about the Giants coaching position 2 years ago, this is not as far fetched as so many are making it out to be. When you have the ego he has, it is not a stretch to think that he would want to "correct" the NFL black mark that is Miami on his resume.

If the defense is actually better than it has shown this year and the Giants can quickly fix the O-line, then the Giants job is going to be attractive to many coaches, including Saban.

"Hi, it's Nick Saban. Want to come play at Alabama?"

In comment 13701090 Bernie said:

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Reached out about the Giants coaching position 2 years ago, this is not as far fetched as so many are making it out to be. When you have the ego he has, it is not a stretch to think that he would want to "correct" the NFL black mark that is Miami on his resume. If the defense is actually better than it has shown this year and the Giants can quickly fix the O-line, then the Giants job is going to be attractive to many coaches, including Saban.

Reaching out is one thing. It's not difficult to believe he put feelers out there for returning to the NFL. Part of the Saban conversation however was that he wasn't just interested in being the coach. He's not taking a hefty pay cut and agreeing to less of a role than he believes he deserves. That's the opposite of what someone with a big ego would do.

In comment 13701046 Aaroninma said:

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that saban will be a capable NFL coach? He was a disaster in MIA, and you dont have unlimited resources in the NFL to recruit the best players in the country. MIght as well go after Steve Spurrier...

While not successful in Miami, how was he a disaster? Went 9-7 and 6-10. Joey Harrington and Culpepper on his last legs were his QBs his losing year and Gus Ferrotte/ Sage Rosenfels his winning year.

Not to mention he was a successful and highly respected DC under Belichick with Cleveland. Their last year they went 11-5 and had the top ranked defense in the league. And don't dismiss what he's done at Bama. Look what they did before he got there.

I think he could still be a great NFL coach but you need the quarterback. I think he's a top 5 football coach college/pros combined. You would really have a problem with the Giants cleaning house and giving him full control? Who's the better option? And who cares what it would take to pay him, the Giants have plenty of money and it doesn't effect the salary cap.

is not going to give up total control at 'Bama to come to
the Giants, or anybody else for that matter.
He is also making a lot of money down there, I think about
8 Mill. a season, in that neighborhood.
He can ride off into the sunset a few years down the road.
People tend to throw out the same names every year.

First of all, Spurrier is nowhere near the workaholic Saban is. Spurrier was more of a manager than anything else - he surrounded himself with excellent staffs, gave them the basic framework of the offense he wanted to run, and let them do the heavy lifting. He was notorious for taking plenty of time off to play golf, even during the season. Saban is a maniac control freak in comparison.

Second of all, Spurrier's offense was a college offense that succeedly largely because UF simply had much more athletic ability than most of its opponents. When he tried to run that offense in Washington, it flopped because the defenses had athletes every bit as good if not better than his offense. Saban runs a much more balanced NFL-style offense.

I want Saban here. Always have. I'll do cartwheels if he's the next leader of this franchise.

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is not going to give up total control at 'Bama to come to the Giants, or anybody else for that matter. He is also making a lot of money down there, I think about 8 Mill. a season, in that neighborhood. He can ride off into the sunset a few years down the road. People tend to throw out the same names every year.

You really think Saban is just going to retire and sip lemonade? The guy is a workaholic maniac. Football is his life. I could totally see him jumping to the NFL at the right opportunity.If I was Mara I would be all over him.

In comment 13701183 djm said:

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I want Saban here. Always have. I'll do cartwheels if he's the next leader of this franchise.

I can’t imagine Saban not wanting to wear the GM hat as well. And understandably so with his exposure to college football and his well earned ego.

Jints Central doesn’t believe in that concept. So it will never happen...

In comment 13701186 TyreeHelmet said:

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In comment 13701154 Carson53 said: Quote: is not going to give up total control at 'Bama to come to the Giants, or anybody else for that matter. He is also making a lot of money down there, I think about 8 Mill. a season, in that neighborhood. He can ride off into the sunset a few years down the road. People tend to throw out the same names every year. You really think Saban is just going to retire and sip lemonade? The guy is a workaholic maniac. Football is his life. I could totally see him jumping to the NFL at the right opportunity.If I was Mara I would be all over him.

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Yes I do, a few others agree on here. He doesn't need
the NFL. He could do something else if he chooses to outside
of football. Maybe he will sip a Pina Colada instead.

Saban controls every aspect of the Alabama program. He's not going to come to the Giants as just a coach. He had total control in Miami, after all, and he's not going to leave Tuscaloosa to take orders from a GM.

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"Hi, it's Nick Saban. Want to come play at Alabama?"

I think that too....but if you look at his overall career the guy can coach.

You could say the same thing about Jimmy Johnson. But he was a great NFL coach.

I think the control issue, plus his age, will work against him coming here.

Bama had been down for a decade when Saban arrived. In the ten seasons between Gene Stallings retiring and Saban being hired, they only won 8+ games three times and had losing records three times. They were hit with NCAA sanctions, including a two year bowl ban, for violations under Mike DuBose. Dennis Franchione bolted for A&M after two years. There was the embarrassing Mike Price debacle. Mike Shula stunk. They had lost five straight to Auburn. After Shula was fired, a lot of people said that Alabama was through as a powerhouse.

So, yeah, NOW it's easy to say that recruiting is no challenge at Alabama, but in 2007 things were very different. What Saban accomplished there, and in such a short time, is amazing.

In comment 13701256 Greg from LI said:

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So, yeah, NOW it's easy to say that recruiting is no challenge at Alabama, but in 2007 things were very different. What Saban accomplished there, and in such a short time, is amazing.

Same with LSU. Look at the results when DiNardo was there prior to Saban...

In comment 13700900 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Maybe he wants to prove to himself and everyone he can succeed in the pros. I don't know. I don't think anyone outside of him knows the answer to that question.

Do you really think anybody cares about this? maybe only ESPN and a bunch of dolphins fans. When folks think about Saban they think "winner" "closer" and "trophies". History remembers the winners.

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I want Saban here. Always have. I'll do cartwheels if he's the next leader of this franchise.

Probably won’t happen but you could sign me up as well

Saban came within a hair of becoming the Giants HC before McAdoo. It was well-covered. Why would it be considered a pipe dream now?

Mara's big mistake was not getting in touch with him sooner. It was Saban who had to contact the Giants. He wants the job. The Giants gave him an ultimatum without realistic time to work out the logistics on his end and negotiate, and it fell through. Had they given it a few days to work it out - who knows?

As pointed out above - you've got to assume the Giants have already put the feelers out. Critical error in the courting process 2 years ago.

In comment 13701445 Powerclean765 said:

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Saban came within a hair of becoming the Giants HC before McAdoo. It was well-covered.

Show your work on that.

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In comment 13701445 Powerclean765 said: Quote: Saban came within a hair of becoming the Giants HC before McAdoo. It was well-covered. Show your work on that.

I agree, and not something via that great NFL source Tom Arnold...

In comment 13701445 Powerclean765 said:

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Saban came within a hair of becoming the Giants HC before McAdoo. It was well-covered. Why would it be considered a pipe dream now? Mara's big mistake was not getting in touch with him sooner. It was Saban who had to contact the Giants. He wants the job. The Giants gave him an ultimatum without realistic time to work out the logistics on his end and negotiate, and it fell through. Had they given it a few days to work it out - who knows? As pointed out above - you've got to assume the Giants have already put the feelers out. Critical error in the courting process 2 years ago.

You keep posting this and it isn't true.

it is.

that is a close personal friend of Saban? He’s just bravenly, bald-faced lying?

The story’s been released. Evidence that it DID happen. Why should anyone believe it DIDN’T? Because you say so? Cmon now.

Nick Saban coming to the Giants would be like when Jimmy Johnson joined the Cowboys. He helped Dallas draft the college players that he knew were truly good FOOTBALL PLAYERS that built the dominate Dallas teams of the early 1990s that included Emmet Smith who was not the best RB ( Barry Sanders was better) but he was the best football player at that position. And one of the best O-lines ever. Like Johnson he has seen these guys in action on the field and not just on tape and he KNOWS which ones can play at the next level