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ajr2456 : 11/22/2017 10:01 am
So apparently Chip Kelly is deciding between UCLA and Florida in the coming days.

A& M people seem convinced that Jimbo Fisher is going to take the A& M job for 6 years $50 million on December 3rd.

Now there are reports floating around that if Auburn beats Bama on Saturday Malzahn would get a contract extension, if they lose he's going to resign and take the Arkansas job. All that means that instead of Fisher leaving for A& M he could end up leaving for Auburn.

He should go to UCLA  
superspynyg : 11/22/2017 10:08 am : link
I think that its a better story line having coached at Oregon. Pac 10 needs help. Washington and Wash state are relevant for gosh sakes. That should not be.
Why would Fisher leave FSU  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 11/22/2017 10:13 am : link
that makes no sense, whatsoever. The stakes are much higher in the SEC, and you would have to beat BAMA every year to get into the playoffs.

Its not like hes going to get better recruits at A&M. FSU is a top 5 perennial recruiting school, and you have to beat Clemson once a year to make it, when your QB isn't hurt.

I'll say it now, he is not leaving.

Chip should go to Florida, he wouldn't have to leave the state to recruit, and it would be more fun to see his offense in SEC.

UCLA is always a Dumpster fire, Florida has a clear path to winning the Eastern SEC.
Yeah, I can't see Jimbo wanting to leave  
Greg from LI : 11/22/2017 10:15 am : link
FSU is a much better job than TAMU. Nicer location, much less pressure, much easier path to the playoff.
RE: Why would Fisher leave FSU  
ajr2456 : 11/22/2017 10:16 am : link
In comment 13701187 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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that makes no sense, whatsoever. The stakes are much higher in the SEC, and you would have to beat BAMA every year to get into the playoffs.

Its not like hes going to get better recruits at A&M. FSU is a top 5 perennial recruiting school, and you have to beat Clemson once a year to make it, when your QB isn't hurt.

I'll say it now, he is not leaving.

Chip should go to Florida, he wouldn't have to leave the state to recruit, and it would be more fun to see his offense in SEC.

UCLA is always a Dumpster fire, Florida has a clear path to winning the Eastern SEC.


As an FSU guy, Jimbo's message or at least that of his assistant coaches, has gone stale and has hurt recruiting this year. Jimbo's highly loyal to his guys, so if FSU wants him to fire guys and A&M will let him hire them I could see him leaving for that and the additional money.
Every year  
BigBlueShock : 11/22/2017 10:17 am : link
People have Jimbo Fisher leaving FSU for an SEC school. And every year he tells people he’s not going anywhere.
RE: RE: Why would Fisher leave FSU  
BigBlueShock : 11/22/2017 10:21 am : link
In comment 13701192 ajr2456 said:
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that makes no sense, whatsoever. The stakes are much higher in the SEC, and you would have to beat BAMA every year to get into the playoffs.

Its not like hes going to get better recruits at A&M. FSU is a top 5 perennial recruiting school, and you have to beat Clemson once a year to make it, when your QB isn't hurt.

I'll say it now, he is not leaving.

Chip should go to Florida, he wouldn't have to leave the state to recruit, and it would be more fun to see his offense in SEC.

UCLA is always a Dumpster fire, Florida has a clear path to winning the Eastern SEC.



As an FSU guy, Jimbo's message or at least that of his assistant coaches, has gone stale and has hurt recruiting this year. Jimbo's highly loyal to his guys, so if FSU wants him to fire guys and A&M will let him hire them I could see him leaving for that and the additional money.

Eh. It’s not out of the realm of possibility that he leaves eventually. Sometimes it’s just time. But I find it hard to believe that A&M would be the opportunity to convince him to leave.
RE: Every year  
ajr2456 : 11/22/2017 10:24 am : link
In comment 13701195 BigBlueShock said:
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People have Jimbo Fisher leaving FSU for an SEC school. And every year he tells people he’s not going anywhere.


The past few years that was all Jimbo using it for leverage for raises for him and his coaches, and facilities. There's a lot more substance behind it this year from talking to some high level boosters. Not saying it will happen, but its a lot more likely than in the past.
RE: RE: Why would Fisher leave FSU  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 11/22/2017 10:25 am : link
In comment 13701192 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 13701187 BigBlueDownTheShore said:


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that makes no sense, whatsoever. The stakes are much higher in the SEC, and you would have to beat BAMA every year to get into the playoffs.

Its not like hes going to get better recruits at A&M. FSU is a top 5 perennial recruiting school, and you have to beat Clemson once a year to make it, when your QB isn't hurt.

I'll say it now, he is not leaving.

Chip should go to Florida, he wouldn't have to leave the state to recruit, and it would be more fun to see his offense in SEC.

UCLA is always a Dumpster fire, Florida has a clear path to winning the Eastern SEC.



As an FSU guy, Jimbo's message or at least that of his assistant coaches, has gone stale and has hurt recruiting this year. Jimbo's highly loyal to his guys, so if FSU wants him to fire guys and A&M will let him hire them I could see him leaving for that and the additional money.


Much easier to get a pay raise by staying put, and sending the message out that you are interested in leaving.
Chip  
TyreeHelmet : 11/22/2017 10:27 am : link
I have no idea why you would go to UCLA over Florida. To me that's a no brainer. Getting Florida athletes in his offense could be scary.
RE: Chip  
ajr2456 : 11/22/2017 10:47 am : link
In comment 13701214 TyreeHelmet said:
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I have no idea why you would go to UCLA over Florida. To me that's a no brainer. Getting Florida athletes in his offense could be scary.


Florida people are saying Chip signed an agreement Sunday but the agreement had a window for him to back out, hence the UCLA talk.
Love  
Jon in NYC : 11/22/2017 11:00 am : link
that Bielema is about to be out on his ass.
RE: He should go to UCLA  
dpinzow : 11/22/2017 11:08 am : link
In comment 13701177 superspynyg said:
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I think that its a better story line having coached at Oregon. Pac 10 needs help. Washington and Wash state are relevant for gosh sakes. That should not be.


Why shouldn't Washington be relevant (Huskies)? They've won a bunch of Rose Bowls and a couple of national championships in their history
RE: RE: He should go to UCLA  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 11/22/2017 11:53 am : link
In comment 13701271 dpinzow said:
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I think that its a better story line having coached at Oregon. Pac 10 needs help. Washington and Wash state are relevant for gosh sakes. That should not be.



Why shouldn't Washington be relevant (Huskies)? They've won a bunch of Rose Bowls and a couple of national championships in their history


Theoretically, USC should never fall out of power. They don't need to leave LA to actually recruit, they have many 5 star athletes in their backyard. UCLA is a different story as they have higher academic power.

Those Washington school get a ton of Athletes from the LA area as well.
On Malzahn...  
bw in dc : 11/22/2017 12:17 pm : link
I know he's got deep Arkansas roots, but he's a really good coach, and Auburn should go all out to keep him. Winning nearly 70% of your games in a state that you share with Nick Saban is impressive. You can argue, with their tradition and the shadow of Alabama, that Auburn is the most difficult job in the country...

Kelly did incredible things at Oregon with a team largely comprised of 2 and 3 star players. He really knows that Pac12 recruiting market. With the UCLA brand, granted they have some top notch academics, and the California pool of players, Kelly should be able to reform them quickly...


Makes no sense for Jimbo to leave ACC  
Rflairr : 11/22/2017 12:34 pm : link
Even though A&M is a really good job now that they’re in the SEC. his path to the playoffs will always be easier in the ACC
RE: Chip  
Rflairr : 11/22/2017 12:37 pm : link
In comment 13701214 TyreeHelmet said:
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I have no idea why you would go to UCLA over Florida. To me that's a no brainer. Getting Florida athletes in his offense could be scary.


I seriously question how good that offense will be against SEC athletes. And offenses in that conference that will slow the game down.

He won’t be playing against Those spread offenses in the PAC 12
RE: RE: Chip  
bw in dc : 11/22/2017 12:46 pm : link
In comment 13701370 Rflairr said:
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I have no idea why you would go to UCLA over Florida. To me that's a no brainer. Getting Florida athletes in his offense could be scary.



I seriously question how good that offense will be against SEC athletes. And offenses in that conference that will slow the game down.



Not sure I agree. There were differences, Kelly will use more RPO, but Spurrier ran a high octane offense too and had that conference on its heels for nearly a decade. And Auburn would run RPO/up tempo with Cam (under Chizik) and it was quite effective. My point? If you get the right players/athletes in a well coached system the sky is the limit...even in the SEC.
RE: RE: RE: Chip  
ajr2456 : 11/22/2017 1:29 pm : link
In comment 13701386 bw in dc said:
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I have no idea why you would go to UCLA over Florida. To me that's a no brainer. Getting Florida athletes in his offense could be scary.



I seriously question how good that offense will be against SEC athletes. And offenses in that conference that will slow the game down.





Not sure I agree. There were differences, Kelly will use more RPO, but Spurrier ran a high octane offense too and had that conference on its heels for nearly a decade. And Auburn would run RPO/up tempo with Cam (under Chizik) and it was quite effective. My point? If you get the right players/athletes in a well coached system the sky is the limit...even in the SEC.


Chips issue is going to be that, while it's fertile recruiting ground, the guy absolutely hates recruiting. Hates it. No matter how many prospects the state has, you have to be able to connect with the kids and the parents and foster relationships with the high schools in the area. Chip just doesn't seem like that type of guy that can keep those Florida kids from going to Miami, Ohio State, Alabama, Clemson, USC, FSU, etc.
Chip could also be negatively recruited against  
dpinzow : 11/22/2017 1:54 pm : link
1. He got show-caused after leaving Oregon
2. He ran DJax and Shady out of Philly while keeping Riley Cooper
The latest  
Stan in LA : 11/22/2017 3:54 pm : link
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Hesitated to post anything from what I’ve heard over the last few days because there is so much information out there and I know a lot of it is misinformation and misdirection. Still from what I’ve heard today from a few really good sources including coaches who coached with Chip in the past as well people in the agency, I think Chip to UCLA looks very probable, to the point where it would now be considered a surprise if he goes anywhere else.

I never use the word ‘lock’ in recruiting and won’t use it here either but it sounds like things would have to fall apart and collapse in a huge way for this not get finalized. It’s past the point of talking about coaching salary’s, living arrangements and practice times and things have even progressed to the point where I heard the current roster is already being evaluated.

There had been informal talks between both party’s but from what I was told, Chip refused to talk to anyone at UCLA as long as Mora was still employed, which is why he was let go before the Cal game. They either had to move quick or risk losing him to Florida. Things were pretty far along with Florida at the time but UCLA had already been in discussions behind the scenes and it can’t be overstated enough how huge Dunn and Wasserman’s relationship played a role in this with the UCLA connection. Sounds like Wasserman was really the point person on this entire deal.

I don’t have a timeframe of when a formal announcement will be made and again, something I say in recruiting all the time, until the paperwork is signed, you never know what could happen. I’ll be honest and hopefully this doesn’t sound like a shot at UCLA, I never envisioned them being able to pull this off, if indeed it happens. I saw them making a run at a few heavyweights, getting turned down and then moving on and hiring a coach with zero head coaching experience or someone who played at UCLA. UCLA decided not to allow Mora to coach the Cal game and let him hug his seniors on senior day, and it looks like the gamble could pay off if they can indeed pull in Chip.

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RE: The latest  
bw in dc : 11/22/2017 4:43 pm : link
In comment 13701603 Stan in LA said:
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I don’t have a timeframe of when a formal announcement will be made and again, something I say in recruiting all the time, until the paperwork is signed, you never know what could happen. I’ll be honest and hopefully this doesn’t sound like a shot at UCLA, I never envisioned them being able to pull this off, if indeed it happens. I saw them making a run at a few heavyweights, getting turned down and then moving on and hiring a coach with zero head coaching experience or someone who played at UCLA. UCLA decided not to allow Mora to coach the Cal game and let him hug his seniors on senior day, and it looks like the gamble could pay off if they can indeed pull in Chip.


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Could there be an issue with the fact UCLA has a deal with UA and Kelly is a Nike guy?
Kelly to UCLA  
Stan in LA : 11/22/2017 6:09 pm : link
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A large number of reliable sources in the coaching and agent worlds are indicating that Chip Kelly has decided to coach at UCLA.

The former Oregon Duck and NFL coach has been deciding between UCLA and Florida this week, but many sources are now saying he's opted for Westwood.

Not only is that the consistent buzz among agents, but some assistant coaches who have previously worked with Kelly are telling various sources that they've spoken to Kelly about specifically joining him on the UCLA staff.

Of course, without a signed agreement with UCLA it's absolutely not a certainty. Coaches have been known quite frequently to change their minds at the last minute.

But as of now, the overwhelming opinion from in-the-know sources is that, at this time, he's chosen to be the next UCLA head coach.

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RE: Kelly to UCLA  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/22/2017 7:38 pm : link
In comment 13701661 Stan in LA said:
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A large number of reliable sources in the coaching and agent worlds are indicating that Chip Kelly has decided to coach at UCLA.

The former Oregon Duck and NFL coach has been deciding between UCLA and Florida this week, but many sources are now saying he's opted for Westwood.

Not only is that the consistent buzz among agents, but some assistant coaches who have previously worked with Kelly are telling various sources that they've spoken to Kelly about specifically joining him on the UCLA staff.

Of course, without a signed agreement with UCLA it's absolutely not a certainty. Coaches have been known quite frequently to change their minds at the last minute.

But as of now, the overwhelming opinion from in-the-know sources is that, at this time, he's chosen to be the next UCLA head coach.

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Confiremtion  
Stan in LA : 11/23/2017 2:06 am : link
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