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LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/22/2017 7:42 pm
Let’s get payback.
I wish KP would get his elbow fixed.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/22/2017 7:47 pm : link
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do the knicks have to be tackled to get a foul?  
nygiants16 : 11/22/2017 7:48 pm : link
ibaka is all over kp no call, thjr gets smacked in the side of the head no call
RE: do the knicks have to be tackled to get a foul?  
dpinzow : 11/22/2017 7:49 pm : link
In comment 13701704 nygiants16 said:
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ibaka is all over kp no call, thjr gets smacked in the side of the head no call


Drake is part of the ref crew tonight
KOQ looks bad tonight  
adamg : 11/22/2017 8:04 pm : link
Missing shots...
Hardaway looks good  
adamg : 11/22/2017 8:08 pm : link
And the French Prince looks loads better than the other day.
Porzingis has to stop being intimidated by physical play  
Vanzetti : 11/22/2017 8:17 pm : link
And stop the flopping. Refs are not going to give foul calls to pussies unless their name is Lebron. Not fair but just the way it is.

Knicks need to get physical. Have KOQ take out Derozan . I know that is not Horne’s way but this is the Eadtern conference not the Western. It’s all about being physical
Fucking flopping shit  
adamg : 11/22/2017 8:17 pm : link
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How many whistles are they going to blow  
adamg : 11/22/2017 8:20 pm : link
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Frenchy!  
adamg : 11/22/2017 8:22 pm : link
Nails the three.
I can't take  
bceagle05 : 11/22/2017 8:23 pm : link
too much more of Lance Thomas.
RE: Porzingis has to stop being intimidated by physical play  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/22/2017 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13701713 Vanzetti said:
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Refs are not going to give foul calls to pussies unless their name is Lebron. Not fair but just the way it is.



RE: Frenchy!  
Vanzetti : 11/22/2017 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13701717 adamg said:
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Nails the three.


I don’t know whether Frankie will become a great player. Only Nostradamus and B in Alb know that. But I love the way this kid does not back down.
RE: I can't take  
Vanzetti : 11/22/2017 8:27 pm : link
In comment 13701719 bceagle05 said:
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too much more of Lance Thomas.


Wouldn’t it be great if you and I could get paid 7 million for sucking at our job?
RE: Porzingis has to stop being intimidated by physical play  
Canton : 11/22/2017 8:28 pm : link
In comment 13701713 Vanzetti said:
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And stop the flopping. Refs are not going to give foul calls to pussies unless their name is Lebron. Not fair but just the way it is.

Knicks need to get physical. Have KOQ take out Derozan . I know that is not Horne’s way but this is the Eadtern conference not the Western. It’s all about being physical


You think KP just woke up one day and decided he's going to be a flopper? He's being coached to do it. That's how you counter attack the physical defense, teams are giving him, to slow down his hot start.

The foul calls against that physical defense (cause of the flops) will slow down that defense they are putting upon him so he can open up his game. It's a chess match out there man.
Hardaway is on fire  
adamg : 11/22/2017 8:28 pm : link
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Now let's start getting some fucking points in the paint  
adamg : 11/22/2017 8:29 pm : link
please
Ten threes already for Toronto.  
bceagle05 : 11/22/2017 8:29 pm : link
Mostly with nobody near the shooter.
Until KP gets even stronger  
Canton : 11/22/2017 8:30 pm : link
that his only "offense" against that defense.
Jack getting smoked out there.  
bceagle05 : 11/22/2017 8:34 pm : link
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RE: RE: Porzingis has to stop being intimidated by physical play  
Vanzetti : 11/22/2017 8:48 pm : link
In comment 13701724 Canton said:
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In comment 13701713 Vanzetti said:


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And stop the flopping. Refs are not going to give foul calls to pussies unless their name is Lebron. Not fair but just the way it is.

Knicks need to get physical. Have KOQ take out Derozan . I know that is not Horne’s way but this is the Eadtern conference not the Western. It’s all about being physical



You think KP just woke up one day and decided he's going to be a flopper? He's being coached to do it. That's how you counter attack the physical defense, teams are giving him, to slow down his hot start.

The foul calls against that physical defense (cause of the flops) will slow down that defense they are putting upon him so he can open up his game. It's a chess match out there man.


If you think a European dude is going to get foul calls, you are really idealizing the NBA. Maybe like Dirk after ten years. But it Int happening for for KP at 22.
WHere you been?  
Canton : 11/22/2017 8:51 pm : link
Have you been watching games? He was getting the calls. Last week he got several in one game.
Knicks with an 11-3 run to start the 2nd half  
dpinzow : 11/22/2017 8:58 pm : link
They cut the deficit to 3 and Kanter has a free throw after an and-1
RE: RE: RE: Porzingis has to stop being intimidated by physical play  
Canton : 11/22/2017 9:03 pm : link
In comment 13701734 Vanzetti said:
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In comment 13701724 Canton said:


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In comment 13701713 Vanzetti said:


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And stop the flopping. Refs are not going to give foul calls to pussies unless their name is Lebron. Not fair but just the way it is.

Knicks need to get physical. Have KOQ take out Derozan . I know that is not Horne’s way but this is the Eadtern conference not the Western. It’s all about being physical



You think KP just woke up one day and decided he's going to be a flopper? He's being coached to do it. That's how you counter attack the physical defense, teams are giving him, to slow down his hot start.

The foul calls against that physical defense (cause of the flops) will slow down that defense they are putting upon him so he can open up his game. It's a chess match out there man.



If you think a European dude is going to get foul calls, you are really idealizing the NBA. Maybe like Dirk after ten years. But it Int happening for for KP at 22.


KP got the call again just now.
Still a lot of ball to play  
robbieballs2003 : 11/22/2017 9:03 pm : link
But this is the best I have seen Hardaway play across the board but even offensively. In the past when he felt he was in the zone he would chuck up some stupid ass shots. Now he is passing up those shots to drive to the basket and we are getting results.
18-0 RUN BABY  
adamg : 11/22/2017 9:05 pm : link
HARDAWAY!
A 22-3 RUN BY THE KNICKS  
dpinzow : 11/22/2017 9:05 pm : link
to start the 2nd half
Timmy Jr  
Chris684 : 11/22/2017 9:06 pm : link
Proving the doubters wrong so far!
MSG crowd with the defense chant  
dpinzow : 11/22/2017 9:07 pm : link
without the organ
Courtney Lee  
Earl the goat : 11/22/2017 9:12 pm : link
Will have some trade value for playoff teams nearing the trade deadline
It would be nice to get rid of his contract to get back a young player and or draft pick
I think McDermott and Dotson can easily take his spot
Suffocating D  
adamg : 11/22/2017 9:13 pm : link
Wow
Kanter with the rim protection  
Canton : 11/22/2017 9:18 pm : link
nice block.
Ugly first half so I tuned out for a little bit  
mfsd : 11/22/2017 9:18 pm : link
and tune back in to catch the end of a 28-0 Knicks run..,wow.
Damn. Hardaway is proving to be a good signing  
Vanzetti : 11/22/2017 9:21 pm : link
Really coming into his own.

I admit I was wary of this signing. But it is looking more and more that Mills looks like he knew what he was doing
10-41  
adamg : 11/22/2017 9:22 pm : link
3rd Q.. wow
KNICKS OUTSCORE RAPTORS 41-10  
dpinzow : 11/22/2017 9:22 pm : link
in the 3rd
That's the best quarter of Knicks basketball  
bceagle05 : 11/22/2017 9:22 pm : link
I've seen in a LONG time. Suffocating defense and excellent ball movement on offense. Everybody contributed.
They held them to 3 points until 3 minutes or so  
adamg : 11/22/2017 9:23 pm : link
left in the Q. That was awesome.
Impressive!  
DennyInDenville : 11/22/2017 9:23 pm : link
Perry and Horny are the goods along with KP and Frank

Mcbuckets looks legit AF too as a role guy...

RE: Courtney Lee  
Vanzetti : 11/22/2017 9:23 pm : link
In comment 13701755 Earl the goat said:
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Will have some trade value for playoff teams nearing the trade deadline
It would be nice to get rid of his contract to get back a young player and or draft pick
I think McDermott and Dotson can easily take his spot


True. But he will also have value for that other playoff team called the NY Knicks
What an amazing quarter, and a team that continues to  
yatqb : 11/22/2017 9:23 pm : link
very pleasantly surprise us.
Great team basketball, especially on defense  
mfsd : 11/22/2017 9:24 pm : link
that was fun to watch. Guys like Lee, Hardaway and Kanter aren’t known for their defense, but they’re busting there asses out there and making a difference
RE: That's the best quarter of Knicks basketball  
robbieballs2003 : 11/22/2017 9:25 pm : link
In comment 13701766 bceagle05 said:
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I've seen in a LONG time. Suffocating defense and excellent ball movement on offense. Everybody contributed.


I think it is the best I have ever seen. Unreal. They also only scored 10 because of some bad fouls on our part too.
Raptors trying to come back  
dpinzow : 11/22/2017 9:29 pm : link
this has a playoff-type feel
KOQ not having his best night tonight  
adamg : 11/22/2017 9:30 pm : link
on the O side...
Fun Stuff  
idiotsavant : 11/22/2017 9:31 pm : link
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KQ is good for one of those lazy back court passes a game  
Canton : 11/22/2017 9:31 pm : link
Like wtf
Good timeout call by Horny  
PhiPsi125 : 11/22/2017 9:32 pm : link
I love KOQ but he gets into these funks where he just sucks. And it’s laziness. His passes suck.
The Raptors get two buckets off what should have been  
PhiPsi125 : 11/22/2017 9:34 pm : link
a traveling call and a double dribble.
Raptors did all that  
dpinzow : 11/22/2017 9:36 pm : link
with Lowry and DeRozan on the bench. Knicks lose most of that 20 pt lead
This isn't going well.  
bceagle05 : 11/22/2017 9:36 pm : link
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And just like that  
Canton : 11/22/2017 9:38 pm : link
We give it all back. We have to develop that killer instinct at the end of games, and not let teams to make a run right back on us.

Nice look from Kanter.  
bceagle05 : 11/22/2017 9:40 pm : link
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Great play by Kanter  
adamg : 11/22/2017 9:40 pm : link
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KP starting to hit at the right time  
adamg : 11/22/2017 9:41 pm : link
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It would be nice if they would stop letting  
PhiPsi125 : 11/22/2017 9:42 pm : link
defenders literally hug and mug KP. It’s ridiculous. And not hard to call.
Lover the chemistry KP and Kanter are starting to develop  
Canton : 11/22/2017 9:42 pm : link
In just under 20 games.
Lee with a rookie mistake.  
bceagle05 : 11/22/2017 9:47 pm : link
Come on now.
Clutch 3 by Hardaway  
adamg : 11/22/2017 9:47 pm : link
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TIMMY!  
adamg : 11/22/2017 9:49 pm : link
HELL YEAH
Hardaway bringing it!  
yatqb : 11/22/2017 9:50 pm : link
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38 points, a career high for THJr  
dpinzow : 11/22/2017 9:50 pm : link
He looks like prime DWade tonight
Hardaway!!  
bceagle05 : 11/22/2017 9:50 pm : link
38/7/6 tonight. I like that he plays angry, too.
Hardaway has been worth every penny of that contract so far  
Canton : 11/22/2017 9:51 pm : link
Great game
Sensational win for the Knicks  
dpinzow : 11/22/2017 9:53 pm : link
What a 3rd quarter
True canton  
idiotsavant : 11/22/2017 9:54 pm : link
Great game. Watching them grow together.

wow - that was some 3rd quarter  
Del Shofner : 11/22/2017 9:55 pm : link
and second half for that matter. Quite the game.
38-7-7 for THJr - numbers not seen since  
Del Shofner : 11/22/2017 9:56 pm : link
Ewing in 1991, apparently.
RE: Hardaway has been worth every penny of that contract so far  
mfsd : 11/22/2017 9:59 pm : link
In comment 13701805 Canton said:
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Great game


Yup, he put the game away after the Raptors made their run.

Interesting to see Jack get most of the 4th Q tonight, Frank had been getting the call down the stretch of close games more often. Jack doesn’t offer much on offense but veteran presence, but tonight that’s all we needed
Celtics finally lose, in Miami.  
bceagle05 : 11/22/2017 10:01 pm : link
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MIlls was getting reamed by most for the THjr signing...  
Canton : 11/22/2017 10:02 pm : link
But he obviously saw his great play with Atlanta (at the end of last season) what he envisioned when he drafted him, so he stole him back.

+1 for Mills
RE: Celtics finally lose, in Miami.  
dpinzow : 11/22/2017 10:03 pm : link
In comment 13701814 bceagle05 said:
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Finally!

This is a crazy night in the Association. Knicks with a 28-0 run and 41-10 quarter, Celtics come back to earth for a night, Warriors getting blown out by OKC, Spurs getting blown out, #TheProcess keeps on working in Philly
The Atlantic all of a sudden is a great division  
dpinzow : 11/22/2017 10:05 pm : link
Every team in the Atlantic is 10-7 or better except the Nets
Best win of the year?  
Vanzetti : 11/22/2017 10:17 pm : link
Could be. Knicks showing they are legit with a big win over a team that just blew them out
good post-game with Hornacek -  
Del Shofner : 11/22/2017 10:21 pm : link
this guy has a finger on the pulse of his team, and is happy enough with the cards he's been dealt as a coach. Nice for a change.
Hardaway having a good November after a slow start.  
Ira : 11/22/2017 10:22 pm : link
I like that he takes the ball to the hoop more than when he played here before he was traded.
Hardaway deserves a lot of credit.  
bceagle05 : 11/22/2017 10:33 pm : link
It's almost like the Knicks sent him to boarding school in Atlanta for a few years and now he's all grown up. I'm not ready to declare him a star or anything, but he's got talent and a work ethic that should sustain him.
RE: Best win of the year?  
djm : 11/22/2017 10:33 pm : link
In comment 13701823 Vanzetti said:
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Could be. Knicks showing they are legit with a big win over a team that just blew them out


Definitely the best win. I went in pretty concerned tonight and when the raptors jumped out to the double digit lead I figured they were just the better team. Not only was this just a great team win we saw the Knicks backcourt outplay an all star backcourt with Toronto-- mainly hardaway but lee, frank and jack had their moments too.

So much fun watching the Knicks. With the Giants being the Giants the Knicks have restored my faith in the universe. Just keep it up.
I know I shouldn't feel like this  
Jan in DC : 11/22/2017 10:39 pm : link
But everything this season for the Knicks is gravy. I had no expectations other than a nice draft pick, which might be flying out the window. But with Kanter and Hardaway being way better than I thought, to KP taking the "quantum leap" as Clyde would say, I just watch every game and am happy to see a competitive basketball team. I don't get angry when they lose, I'm just happy they're playing nice basketball.
Watching the Knicks and Raptors earlier  
dpinzow : 11/22/2017 10:48 pm : link
and watching Lakers/Kings now. The first game was a legit NBA tilt. This Kings/Lakers game looks like a D-League game
I still think some reality will set in  
mfsd : 11/22/2017 10:49 pm : link
with a tough Dec/Jan schedule for the Knicks - 11 home/20 road games over those 2 months. But at this point, who cares, this team is a lot of fun to watch while several younger guys are still learning to play
RE: I still think some reality will set in  
yatqb : 11/22/2017 10:55 pm : link
In comment 13701840 mfsd said:
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with a tough Dec/Jan schedule for the Knicks - 11 home/20 road games over those 2 months. But at this point, who cares, this team is a lot of fun to watch while several younger guys are still learning to play


You're likely right, but this team has surprised us quite often already, so I wouldn't be shocked if they continued to improve going forward, and won more than we'd expect during that stretch. Either way, hopefully they will grow as a team and offer hope for better times ahead.
I'd say that out of the 10 starters in that Lakers/Kings game  
dpinzow : 11/22/2017 10:56 pm : link
only Z-Bo and Kuzma would start on any kind of contending team
Begley tweets  
adamg : 11/22/2017 11:11 pm : link
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Per Elias, the Knicks’ 28-0 run in 3rd quarter tonight was the biggest run by a team since the Cavaliers had a 29-0 run against the Bucks in December 2009.
Season  
Jim in Fairfax : 11/22/2017 11:12 pm : link
Melo: 20.0 ppg
THJr: 18.4 ppg

Really missin’ Melo.
RE: I'd say that out of the 10 starters in that Lakers/Kings game  
adamg : 11/22/2017 11:13 pm : link
In comment 13701843 dpinzow said:
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only Z-Bo and Kuzma would start on any kind of contending team


Zach Randolph is the offensive juggernaut thus far in this one...
Sweet win for Westbrook today  
adamg : 11/22/2017 11:20 pm : link
I love that guy
The raptors came in to this game  
djm : 11/22/2017 11:24 pm : link
With 3 days rest. They wanted this one. Impressive win tonight.
And Ball bricks two FTs  
adamg : 11/22/2017 11:29 pm : link
Made a nice 3 before though...
RE: Season  
mfsd : 11/22/2017 11:34 pm : link
In comment 13701847 Jim in Fairfax said:
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Melo: 20.0 ppg
THJr: 18.4 ppg

Really missin’ Melo.


And Hardaway applied himself more on defense in the 3rd quarter tonight thank Melo typically did in half a season
RE: Season  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/22/2017 11:35 pm : link
In comment 13701847 Jim in Fairfax said:
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Melo: 20.0 ppg
THJr: 18.4 ppg

Really missin’ Melo.


He was past his expiration date.
What the hell  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/22/2017 11:42 pm : link
RE: 38-7-7 for THJr - numbers not seen since  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/22/2017 11:49 pm : link
In comment 13701810 Del Shofner said:
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Ewing in 1991, apparently.


According to Rotoworld, the only Knicks with 38/7/7 line in the past 50 years:

- Clyde Frazier
- Bernard King
- Ewing
- Hardaway Jr.
Although to be fair,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/22/2017 11:51 pm : link
Melo once had 42/17/6 in a playoff game.
The Knicks have already had me jumping off my couch  
Stu11 : 11/23/2017 12:33 am : link
shadow boxing the air like John Starks like 5 times this season. Thats probably more than double the past 2 seasons total...All they kept asking Horny and the players afterwards was was that the best quarter of the season? ummmm the season? try the past 2 or 3 decades...
THJ  
BigBlueShock : 11/23/2017 12:48 am : link
Is a mediocre scrub that will always suck because I’ve already made my mind up and when I make my mind up on someone that is final. Results be damned. I’ve always been that way and you’ll have to deal with it.

—Greg in LI
Was there  
ajr2456 : 11/23/2017 12:50 am : link
The Garden hasn't been this fun for a Knicks game in a long time.
RE: THJ  
DieHard : 11/23/2017 12:51 am : link
In comment 13701868 BigBlueShock said:
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Is a mediocre scrub that will always suck because I’ve already made my mind up and when I make my mind up on someone that is final. Results be damned. I’ve always been that way and you’ll have to deal with it.

—Greg in LI


Ha, I think tonight's performance might be enough for even Greg to hand out some grudging kudos THJr's way. Talk about Turkey Day miracles!

Happy Thanksgiving, all.
THjr put on his big boy pants last night.  
GiantsUA : 11/23/2017 9:25 am : link
Great game, hit the big 3 when the team needed it and drove to the hoop when the team needed it.
Tim Hardaway Jr  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/23/2017 11:28 am : link
Michigan Man
Incredible win  
TyreeHelmet : 11/23/2017 11:39 am : link
This team has been a joy to watch. Insane game from THJR and KP had some enormous buckets. Really fun team.
Yeah that was great.  
bceagle05 : 11/23/2017 12:27 pm : link
Nice to have a TEAM to root for, and not just a collection of individuals looking out for themselves. I don't know if it was by design or by accident, but the Knicks wound up having one heck of an offseason.
RE: Tim Hardaway Jr  
Jon in NYC : 11/23/2017 12:38 pm : link
In comment 13702047 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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Michigan Man


Haven't seen you on the NCAA threads. That cause Michigan is a trash team?
RE: Yeah that was great.  
mfsd : 11/23/2017 12:41 pm : link
In comment 13702080 bceagle05 said:
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Nice to have a TEAM to root for, and not just a collection of individuals looking out for themselves. I don't know if it was by design or by accident, but the Knicks wound up having one heck of an offseason.


Dumping Melo is the biggest case of addition by subtraction in recent memory, for sure
RE: RE: Yeah that was great.  
bigbluehoya : 11/23/2017 12:52 pm : link
In comment 13702092 mfsd said:
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In comment 13702080 bceagle05 said:


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Nice to have a TEAM to root for, and not just a collection of individuals looking out for themselves. I don't know if it was by design or by accident, but the Knicks wound up having one heck of an offseason.



Dumping Melo is the biggest case of addition by subtraction in recent memory, for sure


I wouldn’t disagree with this outright, but my opinion is that the toxicity of the Phil Jackson atmosphere was the bigger issue. It was absolutely stifling.

Either way, McDermott and Kanter are really valuable to this team. I absolutely love what McBuckets is bringing to the table at both ends.

More than just “addition by subtraction”, to me it’s more like Perry got really good value in the deal, as it turns out.
They  
Jon in NYC : 11/23/2017 1:08 pm : link
were both huge issues, and I'm ecstatic that both Phil and Melo are gone. The team plays defense, they pass, they run hard. I haven't had this much fun rooting for the Knicks since it was the Felton/Gallo/Wilson Chandler/Amare team that was weirdly good. And then they blew that up for Melo.
RE: RE: RE: Yeah that was great.  
mfsd : 11/23/2017 1:28 pm : link
In comment 13702100 bigbluehoya said:
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Nice to have a TEAM to root for, and not just a collection of individuals looking out for themselves. I don't know if it was by design or by accident, but the Knicks wound up having one heck of an offseason.



Dumping Melo is the biggest case of addition by subtraction in recent memory, for sure



I wouldn’t disagree with this outright, but my opinion is that the toxicity of the Phil Jackson atmosphere was the bigger issue. It was absolutely stifling.

Either way, McDermott and Kanter are really valuable to this team. I absolutely love what McBuckets is bringing to the table at both ends.

More than just “addition by subtraction”, to me it’s more like Perry got really good value in the deal, as it turns out.


Yup good points. To that end, Hornacek has been free to coach as he sees fit, without big chief triangle running his own silly camps on the side and sending orders about how to run the offense. And whaddya know, Hornacek’s doing a worthy job
RE: RE: Tim Hardaway Jr  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/23/2017 1:44 pm : link
In comment 13702091 Jon in NYC said:
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Michigan Man



Haven't seen you on the NCAA threads. That cause Michigan is a trash team?


Hey Joan
RE: RE: RE: RE: Yeah that was great.  
Canton : 11/23/2017 2:06 pm : link
In comment 13702113 mfsd said:
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Nice to have a TEAM to root for, and not just a collection of individuals looking out for themselves. I don't know if it was by design or by accident, but the Knicks wound up having one heck of an offseason.



Dumping Melo is the biggest case of addition by subtraction in recent memory, for sure



I wouldn’t disagree with this outright, but my opinion is that the toxicity of the Phil Jackson atmosphere was the bigger issue. It was absolutely stifling.

Either way, McDermott and Kanter are really valuable to this team. I absolutely love what McBuckets is bringing to the table at both ends.

More than just “addition by subtraction”, to me it’s more like Perry got really good value in the deal, as it turns out.



Yup good points. To that end, Hornacek has been free to coach as he sees fit, without big chief triangle running his own silly camps on the side and sending orders about how to run the offense. And whaddya know, Hornacek’s doing a worthy job


Most were having him ride off into the sunset before the season even started.

It's funny how quickly that narrative changes, once the shackles came off, and they allowed Horny to run the team as he saw fit.
RE: RE: Yeah that was great.  
dpinzow : 11/23/2017 2:12 pm : link
In comment 13702092 mfsd said:
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In comment 13702080 bceagle05 said:


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Nice to have a TEAM to root for, and not just a collection of individuals looking out for themselves. I don't know if it was by design or by accident, but the Knicks wound up having one heck of an offseason.



Dumping Melo is the biggest case of addition by subtraction in recent memory, for sure


Usually you don't get value out of trading a dollar for four quarters but the Knicks did in this case
Knicks defense on 42-10 run  
Canton : 11/23/2017 5:56 pm : link
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Knicks Film School - ( New Window )
Kanter defense was a HUGE part of that run  
Canton : 11/23/2017 6:06 pm : link
He always get knocked on his defense and even DMM says, "he is what he is. "

But this is a guy I see busting his ass to defend (even with his limitations ) and color me blind but even looks like he's improving.
A number of people see Kanter's defense trending toward good...  
manh george : 11/23/2017 7:53 pm : link
even if it will never be great. Some of those people are among those strange creatures called sportswriters.
Link - ( New Window )
Kanter  
Canton : 11/23/2017 8:00 pm : link
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“Defense was my focus coming out here because there were all these comments, that, ‘Oh, he can score the ball. Offensively he’s at an All-Star level but defensively he’s bad,’ ” Kanter said. “I just wanted to prove all the haters wrong. My thing was coming here and being really focused on defense because I knew I was going to score the ball.”

"That’s an ambitious goal, but it’s worth noting that Kanter has shown signs of progress on defense during the 2017-18 season.

Kanter finished the 2016-17 NBA regular season with a Defensive Real-Plus Minus of -1.24—No. 66 amongst 69 qualified centers. That isn’t necessarily the end-all, be-all of defensive value, but it’s a metric that does a generally solid job of displaying a player’s impact on either end of the floor.

It’s only been 16 games, but thus far in 2017-18, Kanter’s Defensive RPM is a positive 0.31—a vast improvement over 2016-17."
RE: Knicks defense on 42-10 run  
mfsd : 11/23/2017 8:19 pm : link
In comment 13702203 Canton said:
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. Knicks Film School - ( New Window )


Thanks for posting, love these film school videos. Kanter put on a help defense clinic in Q3 last night, slipping off his man to stop several drives. Fun to watch
Kanter said all along  
steve in ky : 11/23/2017 8:21 pm : link
that he worked hard to lose weight during the off season in order to be able to concentrate harder on defense. Looks like he has taken that seriously and is producing results.
RE: RE: Tim Hardaway Jr  
Greg from LI : 11/23/2017 9:31 pm : link
In comment 13702091 Jon in NYC said:
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Michigan Man



Haven't seen you on the NCAA threads. That cause Michigan is a trash team?


Everything about Michigan is repulsive. Everything.
RE: RE: RE: Tim Hardaway Jr  
Jon in NYC : 11/23/2017 10:13 pm : link
In comment 13702121 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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Michigan Man



Haven't seen you on the NCAA threads. That cause Michigan is a trash team?



Hey Joan


I take that as a yes
RE: Kanter defense was a HUGE part of that run  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/23/2017 10:42 pm : link
In comment 13702207 Canton said:
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He always get knocked on his defense and even DMM says, "he is what he is. "

But this is a guy I see busting his ass to defend (even with his limitations ) and color me blind but even looks like he's improving.


It would be hard for him to be worse than he was.

I'm not against Kanter whatsoever. He's a huge part of this team.

That said, I don't know what to make of his improved defense. It's a contract year. Was he always capable of this and just not applying himself? What's going to happen if he convinces the Knicks to keep him? He's going to cost a fortune if the season ended today and he hit free agency.
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LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/23/2017 11:25 pm : link
Lulz
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