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LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/22/2017 7:42 pm
Let’s get payback.
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Yeah that was great.  
bceagle05 : 11/23/2017 12:27 pm : link
Nice to have a TEAM to root for, and not just a collection of individuals looking out for themselves. I don't know if it was by design or by accident, but the Knicks wound up having one heck of an offseason.
RE: Tim Hardaway Jr  
Jon in NYC : 11/23/2017 12:38 pm : link
In comment 13702047 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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Michigan Man


Haven't seen you on the NCAA threads. That cause Michigan is a trash team?
RE: Yeah that was great.  
mfsd : 11/23/2017 12:41 pm : link
In comment 13702080 bceagle05 said:
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Nice to have a TEAM to root for, and not just a collection of individuals looking out for themselves. I don't know if it was by design or by accident, but the Knicks wound up having one heck of an offseason.


Dumping Melo is the biggest case of addition by subtraction in recent memory, for sure
RE: RE: Yeah that was great.  
bigbluehoya : 11/23/2017 12:52 pm : link
In comment 13702092 mfsd said:
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Nice to have a TEAM to root for, and not just a collection of individuals looking out for themselves. I don't know if it was by design or by accident, but the Knicks wound up having one heck of an offseason.



Dumping Melo is the biggest case of addition by subtraction in recent memory, for sure


I wouldn’t disagree with this outright, but my opinion is that the toxicity of the Phil Jackson atmosphere was the bigger issue. It was absolutely stifling.

Either way, McDermott and Kanter are really valuable to this team. I absolutely love what McBuckets is bringing to the table at both ends.

More than just “addition by subtraction”, to me it’s more like Perry got really good value in the deal, as it turns out.
They  
Jon in NYC : 11/23/2017 1:08 pm : link
were both huge issues, and I'm ecstatic that both Phil and Melo are gone. The team plays defense, they pass, they run hard. I haven't had this much fun rooting for the Knicks since it was the Felton/Gallo/Wilson Chandler/Amare team that was weirdly good. And then they blew that up for Melo.
RE: RE: RE: Yeah that was great.  
mfsd : 11/23/2017 1:28 pm : link
In comment 13702100 bigbluehoya said:
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In comment 13702080 bceagle05 said:


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Nice to have a TEAM to root for, and not just a collection of individuals looking out for themselves. I don't know if it was by design or by accident, but the Knicks wound up having one heck of an offseason.



Dumping Melo is the biggest case of addition by subtraction in recent memory, for sure



I wouldn’t disagree with this outright, but my opinion is that the toxicity of the Phil Jackson atmosphere was the bigger issue. It was absolutely stifling.

Either way, McDermott and Kanter are really valuable to this team. I absolutely love what McBuckets is bringing to the table at both ends.

More than just “addition by subtraction”, to me it’s more like Perry got really good value in the deal, as it turns out.


Yup good points. To that end, Hornacek has been free to coach as he sees fit, without big chief triangle running his own silly camps on the side and sending orders about how to run the offense. And whaddya know, Hornacek’s doing a worthy job
RE: RE: Tim Hardaway Jr  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/23/2017 1:44 pm : link
In comment 13702091 Jon in NYC said:
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Michigan Man



Haven't seen you on the NCAA threads. That cause Michigan is a trash team?


Hey Joan
RE: RE: RE: RE: Yeah that was great.  
Canton : 11/23/2017 2:06 pm : link
In comment 13702113 mfsd said:
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Nice to have a TEAM to root for, and not just a collection of individuals looking out for themselves. I don't know if it was by design or by accident, but the Knicks wound up having one heck of an offseason.



Dumping Melo is the biggest case of addition by subtraction in recent memory, for sure



I wouldn’t disagree with this outright, but my opinion is that the toxicity of the Phil Jackson atmosphere was the bigger issue. It was absolutely stifling.

Either way, McDermott and Kanter are really valuable to this team. I absolutely love what McBuckets is bringing to the table at both ends.

More than just “addition by subtraction”, to me it’s more like Perry got really good value in the deal, as it turns out.



Yup good points. To that end, Hornacek has been free to coach as he sees fit, without big chief triangle running his own silly camps on the side and sending orders about how to run the offense. And whaddya know, Hornacek’s doing a worthy job


Most were having him ride off into the sunset before the season even started.

It's funny how quickly that narrative changes, once the shackles came off, and they allowed Horny to run the team as he saw fit.
RE: RE: Yeah that was great.  
dpinzow : 11/23/2017 2:12 pm : link
In comment 13702092 mfsd said:
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Nice to have a TEAM to root for, and not just a collection of individuals looking out for themselves. I don't know if it was by design or by accident, but the Knicks wound up having one heck of an offseason.



Dumping Melo is the biggest case of addition by subtraction in recent memory, for sure


Usually you don't get value out of trading a dollar for four quarters but the Knicks did in this case
Knicks defense on 42-10 run  
Canton : 11/23/2017 5:56 pm : link
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Knicks Film School - ( New Window )
Kanter defense was a HUGE part of that run  
Canton : 11/23/2017 6:06 pm : link
He always get knocked on his defense and even DMM says, "he is what he is. "

But this is a guy I see busting his ass to defend (even with his limitations ) and color me blind but even looks like he's improving.
A number of people see Kanter's defense trending toward good...  
manh george : 11/23/2017 7:53 pm : link
even if it will never be great. Some of those people are among those strange creatures called sportswriters.
Link - ( New Window )
Kanter  
Canton : 11/23/2017 8:00 pm : link
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“Defense was my focus coming out here because there were all these comments, that, ‘Oh, he can score the ball. Offensively he’s at an All-Star level but defensively he’s bad,’ ” Kanter said. “I just wanted to prove all the haters wrong. My thing was coming here and being really focused on defense because I knew I was going to score the ball.”

"That’s an ambitious goal, but it’s worth noting that Kanter has shown signs of progress on defense during the 2017-18 season.

Kanter finished the 2016-17 NBA regular season with a Defensive Real-Plus Minus of -1.24—No. 66 amongst 69 qualified centers. That isn’t necessarily the end-all, be-all of defensive value, but it’s a metric that does a generally solid job of displaying a player’s impact on either end of the floor.

It’s only been 16 games, but thus far in 2017-18, Kanter’s Defensive RPM is a positive 0.31—a vast improvement over 2016-17."
RE: Knicks defense on 42-10 run  
mfsd : 11/23/2017 8:19 pm : link
In comment 13702203 Canton said:
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. Knicks Film School - ( New Window )


Thanks for posting, love these film school videos. Kanter put on a help defense clinic in Q3 last night, slipping off his man to stop several drives. Fun to watch
Kanter said all along  
steve in ky : 11/23/2017 8:21 pm : link
that he worked hard to lose weight during the off season in order to be able to concentrate harder on defense. Looks like he has taken that seriously and is producing results.
RE: RE: Tim Hardaway Jr  
Greg from LI : 11/23/2017 9:31 pm : link
In comment 13702091 Jon in NYC said:
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Michigan Man



Haven't seen you on the NCAA threads. That cause Michigan is a trash team?


Everything about Michigan is repulsive. Everything.
RE: RE: RE: Tim Hardaway Jr  
Jon in NYC : 11/23/2017 10:13 pm : link
In comment 13702121 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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Michigan Man



Haven't seen you on the NCAA threads. That cause Michigan is a trash team?



Hey Joan


I take that as a yes
RE: Kanter defense was a HUGE part of that run  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/23/2017 10:42 pm : link
In comment 13702207 Canton said:
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He always get knocked on his defense and even DMM says, "he is what he is. "

But this is a guy I see busting his ass to defend (even with his limitations ) and color me blind but even looks like he's improving.


It would be hard for him to be worse than he was.

I'm not against Kanter whatsoever. He's a huge part of this team.

That said, I don't know what to make of his improved defense. It's a contract year. Was he always capable of this and just not applying himself? What's going to happen if he convinces the Knicks to keep him? He's going to cost a fortune if the season ended today and he hit free agency.
??  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/23/2017 11:25 pm : link
Lulz
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