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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/23/2017 8:17 pm
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That was a throw into triple coverage  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/23/2017 11:31 pm : link
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The stubborn loyalists  
hassan : 11/23/2017 11:31 pm : link
Probably will blame everything else around him for the next 32 starts If he got them. But Eli cannot make plays downfield anymore - the hero throws his staple are gone and he's just not good with mobility and short passing accuracy.
Rock bottom!  
Greg from LI : 11/23/2017 11:31 pm : link
bhahahahah  
gtt350 : 11/23/2017 11:32 pm : link
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Well, tonight is clarity  
Sean : 11/23/2017 11:32 pm : link
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and there is the obligatory INT  
Jints in Carolina : 11/23/2017 11:32 pm : link
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And  
AcidTest : 11/23/2017 11:32 pm : link
an INT is the perfect ending for this desultory affair.
RE: RE: .  
Danny Kanell : 11/23/2017 11:32 pm : link
In comment 13703072 Kez_Simpson said:
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In comment 13703039 Danny Kanell said:


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This is the worst Giant team Ive seen in my lifetime. Im 40 years old and been a fan since Im about 6.



Are you kidding me? You lived through Dave Brown and Kent and Danny really?


This team is worse.
If you guys seriously think  
Aaroninma : 11/23/2017 11:32 pm : link
eli is the problem, you have NO CLUE. What could he POSSIBLY do with no protection, no running game, no talent at WR, and countless dropped passes?

The OL, and the Coaching is the problem here. Its very simple.
Greg  
crick n NC : 11/23/2017 11:32 pm : link
You were also complaining about Jenkins coverage on doctsons td, when Jenkins coverage was what it should have been, the point is I don't believe you understand what you're watching
Story of the game....for the offense....  
thrunthrublue : 11/23/2017 11:33 pm : link
Punt....punt.....punt.....punt....punt.....punt......punt.....punt....int. Game over.
at least we have been fed and watered  
gtt350 : 11/23/2017 11:33 pm : link
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RE: If you guys seriously think  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/23/2017 11:33 pm : link
In comment 13703103 Aaroninma said:
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eli is the problem, you have NO CLUE. What could he POSSIBLY do with no protection, no running game, no talent at WR, and countless dropped passes?

The OL, and the Coaching is the problem here. Its very simple.


Uhhh....you were saying?
Way to go!  
Giants_ROK : 11/23/2017 11:33 pm : link
Watching this game was akin to feeling diarrhea running down your leg.
RE: That was a throw into triple coverage  
crick n NC : 11/23/2017 11:33 pm : link
In comment 13703092 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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And if Manning throws a meaningless td, you would not count it, but you count that against him
RE: If you guys seriously think  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/23/2017 11:34 pm : link
In comment 13703103 Aaroninma said:
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eli is the problem, you have NO CLUE. What could he POSSIBLY do with no protection, no running game, no talent at WR, and countless dropped passes?

The OL, and the Coaching is the problem here. Its very simple.


lmao. Boned by the lag time between hitting submit and the live action.
RE: .  
old man : 11/23/2017 11:34 pm : link
In comment 13703039 Danny Kanell said:
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This is the worst Giant team Ive seen in my lifetime. Im 40 years old and been a fan since Im about 6.

You haven't lived unless you lived thru '64-'80.
Well, at least well keep our top 5 draft pick  
Simms11 : 11/23/2017 11:34 pm : link
In tact!
There it is!  
B in ALB : 11/23/2017 11:34 pm : link
The Eli interception into triple fucking coverage.

Oooooooh. Time for another team meeting. A heart to heart. Tough love. Honesty.

Fuck this team. What a disgrace.

Fire. Everyone.

RE: Greg  
Greg from LI : 11/23/2017 11:34 pm : link
In comment 13703104 crick n NC said:
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You were also complaining about Jenkins coverage on doctsons td, when Jenkins coverage was what it should have been, the point is I don't believe you understand what you're watching


He got completely turned around by Josh Doctson, who sucks ass. I couldn't give two fucking shit what you think.
No aaron  
hassan : 11/23/2017 11:34 pm : link
He's also poor at this point. Give me a break.
RE: RE: If you guys seriously think  
Kez_Simpson : 11/23/2017 11:34 pm : link
In comment 13703110 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 13703103 Aaroninma said:


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eli is the problem, you have NO CLUE. What could he POSSIBLY do with no protection, no running game, no talent at WR, and countless dropped passes?

The OL, and the Coaching is the problem here. Its very simple.



Uhhh....you were saying?


Garbage time INT to support your argument?
RE: RE: That was a throw into triple coverage  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/23/2017 11:34 pm : link
In comment 13703114 crick n NC said:
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In comment 13703092 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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And if Manning throws a meaningless td, you would not count it, but you count that against him


There's no such thing as a meaningless TD this season. They're averaging 16 damn points per game.
banks on radio saying "they still have time to fix it"  
micky : 11/23/2017 11:35 pm : link
re: the offense.


jeez does this guy ever not take the company line bs?
RE: RE: RE: If you guys seriously think  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/23/2017 11:35 pm : link
In comment 13703123 Kez_Simpson said:
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In comment 13703110 Dave in Hoboken said:


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In comment 13703103 Aaroninma said:


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eli is the problem, you have NO CLUE. What could he POSSIBLY do with no protection, no running game, no talent at WR, and countless dropped passes?

The OL, and the Coaching is the problem here. Its very simple.



Uhhh....you were saying?



Garbage time INT to support your argument?


As if the rest of his game wasn't enough? Clown.
RE: If you guys seriously think  
Greg from LI : 11/23/2017 11:35 pm : link
In comment 13703103 Aaroninma said:
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eli is the problem, you have NO CLUE. What could he POSSIBLY do with no protection, no running game, no talent at WR, and countless dropped passes?

The OL, and the Coaching is the problem here. Its very simple.


Ben McAdoo made Eli throw a pass behind the knees of a wide open receivers. Now I see it!
RE: There it is!  
Kez_Simpson : 11/23/2017 11:35 pm : link
In comment 13703119 B in ALB said:
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The Eli interception into triple fucking coverage.

Oooooooh. Time for another team meeting. A heart to heart. Tough love. Honesty.

Fuck this team. What a disgrace.

Fire. Everyone.


That emotionally invested in the team? Go blow off some steam lmao.
RE: RE: Greg  
crick n NC : 11/23/2017 11:35 pm : link
In comment 13703120 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13703104 crick n NC said:


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You were also complaining about Jenkins coverage on doctsons td, when Jenkins coverage was what it should have been, the point is I don't believe you understand what you're watching



He got completely turned around by Josh Doctson, who sucks ass. I couldn't give two fucking shit what you think.


Exactly, he had no help, how are you going to play inside or outside? Jenkins played it correctly. It was a perfect throw by cousins
RE: RE: RE: That was a throw into triple coverage  
crick n NC : 11/23/2017 11:36 pm : link
In comment 13703125 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 13703092 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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And if Manning throws a meaningless td, you would not count it, but you count that against him



There's no such thing as a meaningless TD this season. They're averaging 16 damn points per game.


You understand what I mean
eli needs to take a seat  
micky : 11/23/2017 11:36 pm : link
period
RE: If you guys seriously think  
NYSports1 : 11/23/2017 11:36 pm : link
In comment 13703103 Aaroninma said:
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eli is the problem, you have NO CLUE. What could he POSSIBLY do with no protection, no running game, no talent at WR, and countless dropped passes?

The OL, and the Coaching is the problem here. Its very simple.



Sure he has lost a lot of talent on offense but these receivers are not new...And to throw 25 times and have just 77 yards passing is beyond putrid...Stop covering for Eli as he has been declining for a few years now even with full staff. You should be able to fall back into at least 100 passing yards and far more if you throw 30 times in a game...Stop it
This team is terrible offensively  
Kez_Simpson : 11/23/2017 11:37 pm : link
We do not have the skill players to score TDs. Engram is our only weapon in that regard, and he forgot how to catch.
RE: This team is terrible offensively  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/23/2017 11:37 pm : link
In comment 13703143 Kez_Simpson said:
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We do not have the skill players to score TDs. Engram is our only weapon in that regard, and he forgot how to catch.


They sucked before the Beckham injury, too.
RE: RE: If you guys seriously think  
Kez_Simpson : 11/23/2017 11:38 pm : link
In comment 13703141 NYSports1 said:
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In comment 13703103 Aaroninma said:


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eli is the problem, you have NO CLUE. What could he POSSIBLY do with no protection, no running game, no talent at WR, and countless dropped passes?

The OL, and the Coaching is the problem here. Its very simple.




Sure he has lost a lot of talent on offense but these receivers are not new...And to throw 25 times and have just 77 yards passing is beyond putrid...Stop covering for Eli as he has been declining for a few years now even with full staff. You should be able to fall back into at least 100 passing yards and far more if you throw 30 times in a game...Stop it


How do you know what Eli saw before you watch the All 22? Do you think our WRs are getting open downfield? What coverage was the Redskins playing most of the game that prevent downfield throws?
RE: RE: RE: RE: That was a throw into triple coverage  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/23/2017 11:38 pm : link
In comment 13703138 crick n NC said:
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In comment 13703125 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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In comment 13703114 crick n NC said:


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In comment 13703092 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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And if Manning throws a meaningless td, you would not count it, but you count that against him



There's no such thing as a meaningless TD this season. They're averaging 16 damn points per game.



You understand what I mean


I don't. I understand YOU think I have some kind of problem with Eli where I wouldn't give him credit if it was due. He's been bad, and there's a segment of the userbase here that takes personal offense when they hear it.
So, who is this Kez Simpson rejoiner?  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/23/2017 11:39 pm : link
Any guesses?
The offense was shitty with a healthy Beckham last year  
Greg from LI : 11/23/2017 11:39 pm : link
Just barely good enough to win with a defense that was sensational last year. Without Beckham, it's atrocious.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: That was a throw into triple coverage  
crick n NC : 11/23/2017 11:40 pm : link
In comment 13703157 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 13703138 crick n NC said:


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In comment 13703125 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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In comment 13703114 crick n NC said:


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In comment 13703092 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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And if Manning throws a meaningless td, you would not count it, but you count that against him



There's no such thing as a meaningless TD this season. They're averaging 16 damn points per game.



You understand what I mean



I don't. I understand YOU think I have some kind of problem with Eli where I wouldn't give him credit if it was due. He's been bad, and there's a segment of the userbase here that takes personal offense when they hear it.


You really didn't understand?
Football isn't an easy sport to dissect
RE: So, who is this Kez Simpson rejoiner?  
Kez_Simpson : 11/23/2017 11:41 pm : link
In comment 13703158 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Any guesses?


Going to actually address my argument or just resort to what I assume is an ad hominem?
Crick  
hassan : 11/23/2017 11:42 pm : link
It's easy to see blatant misthrows. Yes there are macro issues affecting the Fiants offense but it's plain to see Manning's deteriation.
RE: RE: If you guys seriously think  
Aaroninma : 11/23/2017 11:42 pm : link
In comment 13703110 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 13703103 Aaroninma said:


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eli is the problem, you have NO CLUE. What could he POSSIBLY do with no protection, no running game, no talent at WR, and countless dropped passes?

The OL, and the Coaching is the problem here. Its very simple.



Uhhh....you were saying?


Really? That INT means something? Get a grip.
RE: RE: So, who is this Kez Simpson rejoiner?  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/23/2017 11:43 pm : link
In comment 13703178 Kez_Simpson said:
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In comment 13703158 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Any guesses?



Going to actually address my argument or just resort to what I assume is an ad hominem?


I already did. You didn't respond to multiple posts of mine.
Any normal coach, with a modern system  
Aaroninma : 11/23/2017 11:44 pm : link
Could squeeze some offense out of this group. But our playcalling and system is a disaster. We are WAY behind the rest of the league, and its NOT the QB's fault.

RE: Crick  
crick n NC : 11/23/2017 11:45 pm : link
In comment 13703182 hassan said:
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It's easy to see blatant misthrows. Yes there are macro issues affecting the Fiants offense but it's plain to see Manning's deteriation.


Hassan, missed passes can come from the qb, the pass rush, wr in the wrong spot etc. It's good to know the actual reason than guessing
RE: RE: RE: So, who is this Kez Simpson rejoiner?  
Kez_Simpson : 11/23/2017 11:46 pm : link
In comment 13703187 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 13703178 Kez_Simpson said:


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In comment 13703158 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Any guesses?



Going to actually address my argument or just resort to what I assume is an ad hominem?



I already did. You didn't respond to multiple posts of mine.


Your post with personal attacks? Why should I? You offer no credible evidence to back up your claims, other than emotional outburst like most fans. Until you watch the all 22, how can you put together an objective critique?
RE: RE: RE: If you guys seriously think  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/23/2017 11:48 pm : link
In comment 13703186 Aaroninma said:
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In comment 13703110 Dave in Hoboken said:


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In comment 13703103 Aaroninma said:


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eli is the problem, you have NO CLUE. What could he POSSIBLY do with no protection, no running game, no talent at WR, and countless dropped passes?

The OL, and the Coaching is the problem here. Its very simple.



Uhhh....you were saying?



Really? That INT means something? Get a grip.


It doesn't. But when someone makes a post that everything EXCEPT Eli is the problem; sorry, that's a joke.
RE: RE: RE: RE: So, who is this Kez Simpson rejoiner?  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/23/2017 11:49 pm : link
In comment 13703213 Kez_Simpson said:
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In comment 13703178 Kez_Simpson said:


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In comment 13703158 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Any guesses?



Going to actually address my argument or just resort to what I assume is an ad hominem?



I already did. You didn't respond to multiple posts of mine.



Your post with personal attacks? Why should I? You offer no credible evidence to back up your claims, other than emotional outburst like most fans. Until you watch the all 22, how can you put together an objective critique?


The offense struggled way before the injuries, genius. They didn't score 30 once all of last season, as well, when were very healthy. Eli sucked tonight. Stop taking it personall and ACCEPT IT.
RE: RE: .  
Danny Kanell : 11/24/2017 12:01 am : link
In comment 13703117 old man said:
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In comment 13703039 Danny Kanell said:


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This is the worst Giant team Ive seen in my lifetime. Im 40 years old and been a fan since Im about 6.


You haven't lived unless you lived thru '64-'80.


I know but in my lifetime, this is the worst team Ive ever seen.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: So, who is this Kez Simpson rejoiner?  
Kez_Simpson : 11/24/2017 12:07 am : link
In comment 13703235 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 13703213 Kez_Simpson said:


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In comment 13703187 Dave in Hoboken said:


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In comment 13703178 Kez_Simpson said:


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In comment 13703158 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Any guesses?



Going to actually address my argument or just resort to what I assume is an ad hominem?



I already did. You didn't respond to multiple posts of mine.



Your post with personal attacks? Why should I? You offer no credible evidence to back up your claims, other than emotional outburst like most fans. Until you watch the all 22, how can you put together an objective critique?



The offense struggled way before the injuries, genius. They didn't score 30 once all of last season, as well, when were very healthy. Eli sucked tonight. Stop taking it personall and ACCEPT IT.


No one is disputing that they weren't a good offense last year, but this product is beyond that. I accept that you don't seem to know what you're talking about when it concerns the nuances of what is going on in football.
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Dave in Hoboken : 11/24/2017 12:15 am : link
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