For the offense to work? Just wondering cause maybe he missed a few throws tonight but is that the whole fucking problem? This Washington team had the 24th (?) rush defense and we can out throwing. Why? Because our passing attack has been so good? I guess. Washington had one good receiver out there. So we man up Ross Cockrell on him. This is the worst coaching staff in the NFL.
cannot make the short throw. His misses were about equal to the drops. I love the guy and all he has done for the team over the years but he is currently making a bad team worse. All they have is short throws with the players left and he cannot make the short throw!
He's done and I am tired of saying it for the past Â
He has under or overthrown a lot and misses open receivers too often. He will not catch Favre in consecutive games. Is it time to kick the tires on Webb to start getting prepared for the draft ?
For the offense to work? Just wondering cause maybe he missed a few throws tonight but is that the whole fucking problem? This Washington team had the 24th (?) rush defense and we can out throwing. Why? Because our passing attack has been so good? I guess. Washington had one good receiver out there. So we man up Ross Cockrell on him. This is the worst coaching staff in the NFL.
Not perfect but he has to be able to make the easier throws that you would expect an Nfl Qb to make. It’s over
For the offense to work? Just wondering cause maybe he missed a few throws tonight but is that the whole fucking problem? This Washington team had the 24th (?) rush defense and we can out throwing. Why? Because our passing attack has been so good? I guess. Washington had one good receiver out there. So we man up Ross Cockrell on him. This is the worst coaching staff in the NFL.
Not perfect but he has to be able to make the easier throws that you would expect an Nfl Qb to make. It’s over
That throw to Vereen wasn’t easy. Go back and look at the tape and you’ll see Kerrigan (I think) right in Eli’s face with a hand and the RT right on top of Eli spinning away after the errant toss. He was under pressure. There was a toss into the dirt by Eli late in the game which was a big miss and a bad throw in a critical part of the game. Eli isn’t perfect - I’ll give that up to anyone here - he misses some throws - but he’s playing with zero margin of error. Zero. We have the worst coaching staff in the NFL. The worst.
Saw this said in the game thread, that is so dumb... And how is this even a serious question? Eli ate too much fucking turkey before the god damn game, handful of awful throws. This one to Vereen and the one to Rudolph or Lewis Jr I forgot who, late in the game was just the two worst I have seen. Vereen reacted like we just missed a TD because it was one defender between him and the pylon but a awful throw and they can't even pick up the first down. What an awful game from this offense.
Eli has no touch
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Nothing new. He's been putting them in the dirt or air mailing them from 5 yards out most of his career. That's why he's a horrible fit for a wco
Square peg in a round hole and now that the wheels have come completely off MacHandley has been totally exposed watching him stand around dumb founded with no answer because the opposition has you clearly figured out before kickoff and you have no answers ,you then expect our star QB has to go out and try to make chicken soup out of chicken shit . The decision to anoint MacHandley is a fire able offense period .
The receivers are the problem on offense. They are all playing like shit. As a group they are very inconsistent. King & Lewis have been here long enough. So has Darius Powe, but he is on the practice squad while Rudolph, who has been the weakest of the group, gets chance after chance to show us all again why he went undrafted.
On defense we need to get Hunter back at CB. I don't care about the 7th round pick we gave up for Cockrell, he is killing us and has to be benched. Deayon is not the answer either. At FS we need to play Adams because at least he does his job. Thompson sucks. He is always getting baited out of position and leaving a huge void in our defense that the other team wastes no time in exploiting. Let's not even discuss the play of these backup LBs......
The receivers are the problem on offense. They are all playing like shit. As a group they are very inconsistent. King & Lewis have been here long enough. So has Darius Powe, but he is on the practice squad while Rudolph, who has been the weakest of the group, gets chance after chance to show us all again why he went undrafted.
I guess he went undrafted because he can catch the ball? Seems to be the only one left able to hang on to what comes his way. Yes he dropped one or two in that first game, but by and large, he catches balls his way.
Virtually every reception the Giants have made has been a circus catch . What does that tell you about Eli? The passes to Vereen and Rudolph were terrible. Beyond terrible .
Doesn’t tell anything about whether he’s “done” or not; he’s done that his whole career on short passes to RBs. It’s always been a significant weakness for him.
In this game and the one to Vereen appeared to be a miscommunication. Show me a game in which any QB does not miss on a couple of throws.
The issue is there are so few plays that are executed well enough for the QB to actually get a pass off without getting hit, and have a receiver open, and have the receiver catch the ball that every miss is magnified 100x.
This notion the Eli has been chronically inaccurate throughout his career and can’t play in a WCO is beyond ridiculous. The vast majority of his passes are right where they need to be. He is not perfect... no QB is perfect.
Yup that was a terrible throw. He missed him big time Â
But lets not act like Vereen was going to score, he has no ability to break a tackle. Probably the worst in the league at it.
The later throw, his arm was hit so can't fault him for that but the Vereen throw was baaaad.
I think Vereen has a good chance to score (50%) - only one man 7 or 8 yards away..if you are talking about the missed throw to Rudolph, Eli was not touched he just held it to long and threw it into the dirt - it looked like he was aiming it, not throwing it.
The Giant's top 5 draft position in the upcoming draft combined with Manning's age means the team must draft Manning's replacement. That would be true regardless of how well Manning has been playing.
However, Manning's pass to Vereen adds zero to the debate whether Manning is "done" or not. It was a horrible pass. But it was the same horrible pass he has been unable to throw his entire Giants' career. As such, it isn't an indication of anything new.
One disturbing play was a pass to King in the second half Â
Eli saw that King changed his route from an outside cut, because the outside was not open. King turned the pattern to an INSIDE CUT and was wide open. Eli saw he cut the pattern to the inside, but still threw the ball to the spot King was supposed to be according to the playbook. In that case Eli should have improvised. King was jumping up and down in frustration. Eli played terrible.
RE: One disturbing play was a pass to King in the second half Â
Eli saw that King changed his route from an outside cut, because the outside was not open. King turned the pattern to an INSIDE CUT and was wide open. Eli saw he cut the pattern to the inside, but still threw the ball to the spot King was supposed to be according to the playbook. In that case Eli should have improvised. King was jumping up and down in frustration. Eli played terrible.
Not sure why I am even replying, but you know what Manning saw and had time to react to? Is that a special ability you have?
I'll go with Eli over King as far as knowing where to be or Â
Also all these Boobs focusing on the false narrative he doesn't lead his receivers I guess didn't see the perfect throws to Engram that were dropped...
RE: RE: One disturbing play was a pass to King in the second half Â
Eli saw that King changed his route from an outside cut, because the outside was not open. King turned the pattern to an INSIDE CUT and was wide open. Eli saw he cut the pattern to the inside, but still threw the ball to the spot King was supposed to be according to the playbook. In that case Eli should have improvised. King was jumping up and down in frustration. Eli played terrible.
Not sure why I am even replying, but you know what Manning saw and had time to react to? Is that a special ability you have?
King ran the wrong route - period. Eli was throwing to the sticks for a 1st down. Eli has to throw early so that the ball is there as King comes out of the cut and before the DB can react or break on the ball. This is not even a question.
For the offense to work? Just wondering cause maybe he missed a few throws tonight but is that the whole fucking problem? This Washington team had the 24th (?) rush defense and we can out throwing. Why? Because our passing attack has been so good? I guess. Washington had one good receiver out there. So we man up Ross Cockrell on him. This is the worst coaching staff in the NFL.
Yes he does. It's the only way this piece of shit scheme can work. ANd e has to become mobile as Rodgers too.
RE: I'll go with Eli over King as far as knowing where to be or Â
Also all these Boobs focusing on the false narrative he doesn't lead his receivers I guess didn't see the perfect throws to Engram that were dropped...
Just stop JC. Your and Britt's blind defense of Eli is just tired. He is terrible at this point. I posted this in another thread, but SportsCenter pointed out this morning that Jenkins had more yards on his pick 6 than the Giants offense had in the 2nd half. Just pathetic. 113 yards, no TDs and a pick. But of course you will just blame everyone else.
If careers are an arc, then isn't this 2005 Eli? He is done man. Stop blaming everyone else. And for the love of god, when someone disagrees with you, stop telling them to "go root for the Eagles". We can be Giants fans and agree that Eli sucks.
and actually take credance in anything they say sums it up...
They are not about analysis in the least...
As far as Eli nowhere have I said they should not plan for his successor...
But stating that he sucks with the supporting cast and coaching staff they have surrounded him with is well frankly something an Eagle fan would say...
And Britt is one of the best posters on here so if you want to pair me with him I am proud to have the distinction...
SportsCenter is still on TV? Last time I watched that show I was typing out “boo-yah” on my Blackberry. But yeah, if they say Eli is done it must be so because SC has always had infallible NFL analysis. Da na nunt, da na nunt.
and actually take credance in anything they say sums it up...
They are not about analysis in the least...
As far as Eli nowhere have I said they should not plan for his successor...
But stating that he sucks with the supporting cast and coaching staff they have surrounded him with is well frankly something an Eagle fan would say...
And Britt is one of the best posters on here so if you want to pair me with him I am proud to have the distinction...
You not so much...
Hahah. Again, you can't help yourself. "Take credence in what they say on Sportscenter". It is fact. Jenkins had more yards on his pick six then the Giants offense had in the 2nd half.
"Something an eagles fan would say". Again, this is all you do. I am a huge Giants fan, just like you. I don't care who is calling plays, blocking or catching passes. Eli has been terrible this year, and he was below average last year. I don't know what to tell you at this point, you will just refuse to see it.
I agree that Britt is an excellent poster. While I disagree with Britt's views on Eli, there is always convincing argument and data. You just tell everyone to root for the eagles.
and actually take credance in anything they say sums it up...
They are not about analysis in the least...
As far as Eli nowhere have I said they should not plan for his successor...
But stating that he sucks with the supporting cast and coaching staff they have surrounded him with is well frankly something an Eagle fan would say...
And Britt is one of the best posters on here so if you want to pair me with him I am proud to have the distinction...
You not so much...
Hahah. Again, you can't help yourself. "Take credence in what they say on Sportscenter". It is fact. Jenkins had more yards on his pick six then the Giants offense had in the 2nd half.
"Something an eagles fan would say". Again, this is all you do. I am a huge Giants fan, just like you. I don't care who is calling plays, blocking or catching passes. Eli has been terrible this year, and he was below average last year. I don't know what to tell you at this point, you will just refuse to see it.
I agree that Britt is an excellent poster. While I disagree with Britt's views on Eli, there is always convincing argument and data. You just tell everyone to root for the eagles.
The offense having a poor showing does not directly correlate to “Eli is done”. Did you notice how many times Eli was getting hit before he got to his third step or the perfect passes that were dropped or the inability to establish the run game? That’s all on Eli?
Football is a team game. Have you noticed Dak Prescott’s play over the last couple of games? He was the ESPN darling up until now.
We love Eli but he hasn't been able to improvise.
He did use a pump fake move early in the game, which pulled defenders out of position so he could throw behind them.
He forgets most of his savvy veteran techniques, and plays like a rookie on the next series. No more pump fakes. Telegraphing his passes, no movement in the pocket to open space to see down field. No running for the first down if its open. Falling down with out being knocked down. He's Looking for a Clean pocket that don't exist as often anymore. Most of the sacks yesterday is because Eli held the ball to long.
A QB has about 4- 5 seconds to throw and Eli is in the Shot Gun. His TD to Interception rate is very respectable, and he doesn't get hurt, but he is taking on a throw and duck type follow through and that effects the trajectory of the passes he throws. Cant blame this on the receivers or the line. He had the best this year. I wonder if we could see what the young guy Webb can do before Draft time. We can not make Eli's Iron Man starts record more important then what we need to find out.
In the case Tavarres King the pass route designed for to be cut to the outside was not open the receiver cut to an open area which is intelligent, Eli could improvise in cases like that or maybe someone else can.
We love Eli but he hasn't been able to improvise.
He did use a pump fake move early in the game, which pulled defenders out of position so he could throw behind them.
He forgets most of his savvy veteran techniques, and plays like a rookie on the next series. No more pump fakes. Telegraphing his passes, no movement in the pocket to open space to see down field. No running for the first down if its open. Falling down with out being knocked down. He's Looking for a Clean pocket that don't exist as often anymore. Most of the sacks yesterday is because Eli held the ball to long.
A QB has about 4- 5 seconds to throw and Eli is in the Shot Gun. His TD to Interception rate is very respectable, and he doesn't get hurt, but he is taking on a throw and duck type follow through and that effects the trajectory of the passes he throws. Cant blame this on the receivers or the line. He had the best this year. I wonder if we could see what the young guy Webb can do before Draft time. We can not make Eli's Iron Man starts record more important then what we need to find out.
In the case Tavarres King the pass route designed for to be cut to the outside was not open the receiver cut to an open area which is intelligent, Eli could improvise in cases like that or maybe someone else can.
Cant blame the OL for him "taking on a throw and duck type follow through"????? Surely you jest.
and I just watched the play about 20 times in slow motion...
I didn't see the play live and reading this thread it seemed like this play "cemented " the narrative that "Eli is finished"...
Holy shit a lot of you need to rewatch...while it wasn't a great throw it wasn't the shitshow its being portrayed as...
Wheeler got beaten bad by Kerrigan (again as he was being abused the whole game)...in fact Kerrigan hit Eli in the chest as he threw...
It definitely seemed like Vereen was going to run a short out and Eli threw it as a skinny flag but the play had no chance because as usual the timing was all fucked up by another breakdown by the OL...
At some point the baby gets thrown out with the bathwater. You can't rebuild around Eli at this point. He might play out his contract, but unless a miracle happens and he turns into Tom Brady...he done.
RE: I'll throw some facts out here for everyone to clarify Â
At some point the baby gets thrown out with the bathwater. You can't rebuild around Eli at this point. He might play out his contract, but unless a miracle happens and he turns into Tom Brady...he done.
And prior WR injuries partially result from a system that at times treats wrs like running backs. Dbacks sitting back on the routes waiting to hammer them. Short time window, less play action, less time for routes to develop.
Some of these short passes are also obvious pick six risks. Which. Is something you want to avoid if your putting the game in the hands of the defense. Complimentary style.
If it's a short 6 yard pass near the left side line, LOS at your own 25...with three defenders in the area... Throwing it away looks fairly rational.
Par for the course with this offense.
Or that Eli missed a wide open Receiver.
Has not been able to consistently complete short touch passes, or screens his entire career. QB of that caliber should be able to do better.
You're kidding right?
Awful shit.
Awful shit.
Nice Mike Tyson reference right there.
Not perfect but he has to be able to make the easier throws that you would expect an Nfl Qb to make. It’s over
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For the offense to work? Just wondering cause maybe he missed a few throws tonight but is that the whole fucking problem? This Washington team had the 24th (?) rush defense and we can out throwing. Why? Because our passing attack has been so good? I guess. Washington had one good receiver out there. So we man up Ross Cockrell on him. This is the worst coaching staff in the NFL.
Not perfect but he has to be able to make the easier throws that you would expect an Nfl Qb to make. It’s over
That throw to Vereen wasn’t easy. Go back and look at the tape and you’ll see Kerrigan (I think) right in Eli’s face with a hand and the RT right on top of Eli spinning away after the errant toss. He was under pressure. There was a toss into the dirt by Eli late in the game which was a big miss and a bad throw in a critical part of the game. Eli isn’t perfect - I’ll give that up to anyone here - he misses some throws - but he’s playing with zero margin of error. Zero. We have the worst coaching staff in the NFL. The worst.
Saw this said in the game thread, that is so dumb... And how is this even a serious question? Eli ate too much fucking turkey before the god damn game, handful of awful throws. This one to Vereen and the one to Rudolph or Lewis Jr I forgot who, late in the game was just the two worst I have seen. Vereen reacted like we just missed a TD because it was one defender between him and the pylon but a awful throw and they can't even pick up the first down. What an awful game from this offense.
Thunderstruck27 : 11/23/2017 11:27 pm : link : reply
Nothing new. He's been putting them in the dirt or air mailing them from 5 yards out most of his career. That's why he's a horrible fit for a wco
Square peg in a round hole and now that the wheels have come completely off MacHandley has been totally exposed watching him stand around dumb founded with no answer because the opposition has you clearly figured out before kickoff and you have no answers ,you then expect our star QB has to go out and try to make chicken soup out of chicken shit . The decision to anoint MacHandley is a fire able offense period .
On defense we need to get Hunter back at CB. I don't care about the 7th round pick we gave up for Cockrell, he is killing us and has to be benched. Deayon is not the answer either. At FS we need to play Adams because at least he does his job. Thompson sucks. He is always getting baited out of position and leaving a huge void in our defense that the other team wastes no time in exploiting. Let's not even discuss the play of these backup LBs......
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Either fires it into the dirt or rifles it off a facemask. Or he floats it into Bolivian.
Awful shit.
Nice Mike Tyson reference right there.
The reference would have been even better if Holyfield would have stopped ducking Tyson!
I guess he went undrafted because he can catch the ball? Seems to be the only one left able to hang on to what comes his way. Yes he dropped one or two in that first game, but by and large, he catches balls his way.
That throw was just a “the bears are who we thought they were!” type of thing to me.
The issue is there are so few plays that are executed well enough for the QB to actually get a pass off without getting hit, and have a receiver open, and have the receiver catch the ball that every miss is magnified 100x.
This notion the Eli has been chronically inaccurate throughout his career and can’t play in a WCO is beyond ridiculous. The vast majority of his passes are right where they need to be. He is not perfect... no QB is perfect.
The later throw, his arm was hit so can't fault him for that but the Vereen throw was baaaad.
The later throw, his arm was hit so can't fault him for that but the Vereen throw was baaaad.
I think Vereen has a good chance to score (50%) - only one man 7 or 8 yards away..if you are talking about the missed throw to Rudolph, Eli was not touched he just held it to long and threw it into the dirt - it looked like he was aiming it, not throwing it.
Depending on the coverage it is not always best to lead the receiver. Leading the receiver could put the receiver or the ball in harms way.
However, Manning's pass to Vereen adds zero to the debate whether Manning is "done" or not. It was a horrible pass. But it was the same horrible pass he has been unable to throw his entire Giants' career. As such, it isn't an indication of anything new.
Not sure why I am even replying, but you know what Manning saw and had time to react to? Is that a special ability you have?
Also all these Boobs focusing on the false narrative he doesn't lead his receivers I guess didn't see the perfect throws to Engram that were dropped...
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Eli saw that King changed his route from an outside cut, because the outside was not open. King turned the pattern to an INSIDE CUT and was wide open. Eli saw he cut the pattern to the inside, but still threw the ball to the spot King was supposed to be according to the playbook. In that case Eli should have improvised. King was jumping up and down in frustration. Eli played terrible.
Not sure why I am even replying, but you know what Manning saw and had time to react to? Is that a special ability you have?
King ran the wrong route - period. Eli was throwing to the sticks for a 1st down. Eli has to throw early so that the ball is there as King comes out of the cut and before the DB can react or break on the ball. This is not even a question.
Yes he does. It's the only way this piece of shit scheme can work. ANd e has to become mobile as Rodgers too.
Also all these Boobs focusing on the false narrative he doesn't lead his receivers I guess didn't see the perfect throws to Engram that were dropped...
Just stop JC. Your and Britt's blind defense of Eli is just tired. He is terrible at this point. I posted this in another thread, but SportsCenter pointed out this morning that Jenkins had more yards on his pick 6 than the Giants offense had in the 2nd half. Just pathetic. 113 yards, no TDs and a pick. But of course you will just blame everyone else.
If careers are an arc, then isn't this 2005 Eli? He is done man. Stop blaming everyone else. And for the love of god, when someone disagrees with you, stop telling them to "go root for the Eagles". We can be Giants fans and agree that Eli sucks.
They are not about analysis in the least...
As far as Eli nowhere have I said they should not plan for his successor...
But stating that he sucks with the supporting cast and coaching staff they have surrounded him with is well frankly something an Eagle fan would say...
And Britt is one of the best posters on here so if you want to pair me with him I am proud to have the distinction...
You not so much...
They are not about analysis in the least...
As far as Eli nowhere have I said they should not plan for his successor...
But stating that he sucks with the supporting cast and coaching staff they have surrounded him with is well frankly something an Eagle fan would say...
And Britt is one of the best posters on here so if you want to pair me with him I am proud to have the distinction...
You not so much...
Hahah. Again, you can't help yourself. "Take credence in what they say on Sportscenter". It is fact. Jenkins had more yards on his pick six then the Giants offense had in the 2nd half.
"Something an eagles fan would say". Again, this is all you do. I am a huge Giants fan, just like you. I don't care who is calling plays, blocking or catching passes. Eli has been terrible this year, and he was below average last year. I don't know what to tell you at this point, you will just refuse to see it.
I agree that Britt is an excellent poster. While I disagree with Britt's views on Eli, there is always convincing argument and data. You just tell everyone to root for the eagles.
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and actually take credance in anything they say sums it up...
They are not about analysis in the least...
As far as Eli nowhere have I said they should not plan for his successor...
But stating that he sucks with the supporting cast and coaching staff they have surrounded him with is well frankly something an Eagle fan would say...
And Britt is one of the best posters on here so if you want to pair me with him I am proud to have the distinction...
You not so much...
Hahah. Again, you can't help yourself. "Take credence in what they say on Sportscenter". It is fact. Jenkins had more yards on his pick six then the Giants offense had in the 2nd half.
"Something an eagles fan would say". Again, this is all you do. I am a huge Giants fan, just like you. I don't care who is calling plays, blocking or catching passes. Eli has been terrible this year, and he was below average last year. I don't know what to tell you at this point, you will just refuse to see it.
I agree that Britt is an excellent poster. While I disagree with Britt's views on Eli, there is always convincing argument and data. You just tell everyone to root for the eagles.
The offense having a poor showing does not directly correlate to “Eli is done”. Did you notice how many times Eli was getting hit before he got to his third step or the perfect passes that were dropped or the inability to establish the run game? That’s all on Eli?
Football is a team game. Have you noticed Dak Prescott’s play over the last couple of games? He was the ESPN darling up until now.
He did use a pump fake move early in the game, which pulled defenders out of position so he could throw behind them.
He forgets most of his savvy veteran techniques, and plays like a rookie on the next series. No more pump fakes. Telegraphing his passes, no movement in the pocket to open space to see down field. No running for the first down if its open. Falling down with out being knocked down. He's Looking for a Clean pocket that don't exist as often anymore. Most of the sacks yesterday is because Eli held the ball to long.
A QB has about 4- 5 seconds to throw and Eli is in the Shot Gun. His TD to Interception rate is very respectable, and he doesn't get hurt, but he is taking on a throw and duck type follow through and that effects the trajectory of the passes he throws. Cant blame this on the receivers or the line. He had the best this year. I wonder if we could see what the young guy Webb can do before Draft time. We can not make Eli's Iron Man starts record more important then what we need to find out.
In the case Tavarres King the pass route designed for to be cut to the outside was not open the receiver cut to an open area which is intelligent, Eli could improvise in cases like that or maybe someone else can.
He did use a pump fake move early in the game, which pulled defenders out of position so he could throw behind them.
He forgets most of his savvy veteran techniques, and plays like a rookie on the next series. No more pump fakes. Telegraphing his passes, no movement in the pocket to open space to see down field. No running for the first down if its open. Falling down with out being knocked down. He's Looking for a Clean pocket that don't exist as often anymore. Most of the sacks yesterday is because Eli held the ball to long.
A QB has about 4- 5 seconds to throw and Eli is in the Shot Gun. His TD to Interception rate is very respectable, and he doesn't get hurt, but he is taking on a throw and duck type follow through and that effects the trajectory of the passes he throws. Cant blame this on the receivers or the line. He had the best this year. I wonder if we could see what the young guy Webb can do before Draft time. We can not make Eli's Iron Man starts record more important then what we need to find out.
In the case Tavarres King the pass route designed for to be cut to the outside was not open the receiver cut to an open area which is intelligent, Eli could improvise in cases like that or maybe someone else can.
Cant blame the OL for him "taking on a throw and duck type follow through"????? Surely you jest.
Twaddle
I didn't see the play live and reading this thread it seemed like this play "cemented " the narrative that "Eli is finished"...
Holy shit a lot of you need to rewatch...while it wasn't a great throw it wasn't the shitshow its being portrayed as...
Wheeler got beaten bad by Kerrigan (again as he was being abused the whole game)...in fact Kerrigan hit Eli in the chest as he threw...
It definitely seemed like Vereen was going to run a short out and Eli threw it as a skinny flag but the play had no chance because as usual the timing was all fucked up by another breakdown by the OL...
You should be an analyst on ESPN...
Maybe give it another 10 times...
2. McAdoo is done
3. Eli is done
At some point the baby gets thrown out with the bathwater. You can't rebuild around Eli at this point. He might play out his contract, but unless a miracle happens and he turns into Tom Brady...he done.
2. McAdoo is done
3. Eli is done
At some point the baby gets thrown out with the bathwater. You can't rebuild around Eli at this point. He might play out his contract, but unless a miracle happens and he turns into Tom Brady...he done.
Hopefully you've slept it off by now...
Some of these short passes are also obvious pick six risks. Which. Is something you want to avoid if your putting the game in the hands of the defense. Complimentary style.
If it's a short 6 yard pass near the left side line, LOS at your own 25...with three defenders in the area... Throwing it away looks fairly rational.
Like King as a player and Manning.
Why cherry pick. The system, the OL the recruiting, all need to be changed regardless of the who the starting QB is.