Continue to start Eli to keep his string alive, but let's see what Webb can do. I don't want to hear about his getting killed behind this line. He's a football player and he'll survive.
OLine is a sieve. No running game and he has one serious wr, who happens to be a TE. He is not that mobile - you have to give him some semblance of a running game and a little time to throw.
but watching Eli, it just looks like he doesn't care anymore....whatever edge he use to have, it's gone.....there just doesn't look like there is any fire in his body....I know the line sucks....his receivers suck.....but there were plays to be made out there by an NFL QB.....he did not make them.....not that he can't make them....it's like he has accepted that this offense is so bad, why even try...
Who can blame him? His lousy receivers can't catch the ball when he puts it right in their hands! He's probably pissed off, but has so much class that he won't throw anyone under the bus.
Why is this an acceptable excuse for the guy who is supposed to be the leader?
would have liked to see us try and run Gallman wide more, especially to the right side. Maybe play action to Adams, since nobody expect us to throw to him.
OLine is a sieve. No running game and he has one serious wr, who happens to be a TE. He is not that mobile - you have to give him some semblance of a running game and a little time to throw.
The problem is this year when there was a decent running game and a little better protection, he still looked very average.
That's not fair. They play an inordinate amount of snaps because the offense can't stay on the field.
The offense had run 12 plays in the second half when Cousins threw his second TD. There's no amount of conditioning that makes the amount of plays this defense has to play a sustainable thing.
OLine is a sieve. No running game and he has one serious wr, who happens to be a TE. He is not that mobile - you have to give him some semblance of a running game and a little time to throw.
I don't think there is any question the Giants haven't played any better than the last two weeks. And they scored 3 offensive points tonight and how many last week? Single digits?
They have been so bad this year that bad looks good. Think about that.
The only reason this team doesn't resemble the 1980 saints is the D has a lot of talent and there's a borderline hot qb behind center. The coaching and direction all year has been unspeakably terrible. Just hang in there everyone... take the pain... we are almost done. Then pray the Giants "panic." Panic can be a good thing.
Hey Coach Did the team practice well this week? Coach being stubborn Â
Is not the same as being smart. You need a better plan at lb'er, especially with injuries. You need a football smart GM. Have you read what honorable Japanese off icers do when they consitently lose? DO IT!
The NFL golden boy Dak had a pretty rough day. See, all of the sudden he doesn’t have an All Pro RB and he doesn’t look so good even with that all world offensive line and Dez and HOF TE. Yeah, sure, he can still run around but no running back kind of has an impact.
But Eli? No doubt he’s done because he can’t play a perfect game with lousy running backs, a for shit offensive line, WRs off the practice squad and a first round draft pick that can’t catch the ball when it hits him in the hands and the least creative coaching staff in the NFL. Yeah, Eli’s done.
The NFL golden boy Dak had a pretty rough day. See, all of the sudden he doesn’t have an All Pro RB and he doesn’t look so good even with that all world offensive line and Dez and HOF TE. Yeah, sure, he can still run around but no running back kind of has an impact.
But Eli? No doubt he’s done because he can’t play a perfect game with lousy running backs, a for shit offensive line, WRs off the practice squad and a first round draft pick that can’t catch the ball when it hits him in the hands and the least creative coaching staff in the NFL. Yeah, Eli’s done.
How about the fact that the offense hasn't scored 30 points since the 2015 season?
His defenders claim just give him an above average line running game and receivers. 25 qbs can succeed with that in this league.
And if the problem is everyone around him this means it's not going to happen timely enough for Eli to demonstrate he can still play. And how long does that last? He set up for a good 2019?
It's time to be done and move on. He's had a great career he's a great guy. he's rich as hell and has a beautiful wife and family and a life I would kill for.
So no he doesn't deserve a Better ending and I don't feel bad for him. It's clear he's done.
Mac is done and reese is done too. Almost all agree on that. But the Eli cult here has to get real and realize he has to be done too.
The NFL golden boy Dak had a pretty rough day. See, all of the sudden he doesn’t have an All Pro RB and he doesn’t look so good even with that all world offensive line and Dez and HOF TE. Yeah, sure, he can still run around but no running back kind of has an impact.
But Eli? No doubt he’s done because he can’t play a perfect game with lousy running backs, a for shit offensive line, WRs off the practice squad and a first round draft pick that can’t catch the ball when it hits him in the hands and the least creative coaching staff in the NFL. Yeah, Eli’s done.
Oh fuck off. No one makes Eli fire passes into the ground but Eli.
If your yardstick for Eli is Dak fucking Prescott, then I don't know what else to say to you.
I realize it’s torture watching this product now, but the long term viability of this franchise is predicated on losing these types of games moving forward. It is imperative that Jerry Reese and McAdoo are toast in 6 weeks.
I mean none and the giants lead the league in drops. If Eli is going to be the q.v. next year playing Webb makes no sense. To me, if you play Webb now, you have to move on from eli moving forward next season. I don't think that's the plan.
The NFL golden boy Dak had a pretty rough day. See, all of the sudden he doesn’t have an All Pro RB and he doesn’t look so good even with that all world offensive line and Dez and HOF TE. Yeah, sure, he can still run around but no running back kind of has an impact.
But Eli? No doubt he’s done because he can’t play a perfect game with lousy running backs, a for shit offensive line, WRs off the practice squad and a first round draft pick that can’t catch the ball when it hits him in the hands and the least creative coaching staff in the NFL. Yeah, Eli’s done.
How about the fact that the offense hasn't scored 30 points since the 2015 season?
The NFL golden boy Dak had a pretty rough day. See, all of the sudden he doesn’t have an All Pro RB and he doesn’t look so good even with that all world offensive line and Dez and HOF TE. Yeah, sure, he can still run around but no running back kind of has an impact.
But Eli? No doubt he’s done because he can’t play a perfect game with lousy running backs, a for shit offensive line, WRs off the practice squad and a first round draft pick that can’t catch the ball when it hits him in the hands and the least creative coaching staff in the NFL. Yeah, Eli’s done.
How about the fact that the offense hasn't scored 30 points since the 2015 season?
The NFL golden boy Dak had a pretty rough day. See, all of the sudden he doesn’t have an All Pro RB and he doesn’t look so good even with that all world offensive line and Dez and HOF TE. Yeah, sure, he can still run around but no running back kind of has an impact.
But Eli? No doubt he’s done because he can’t play a perfect game with lousy running backs, a for shit offensive line, WRs off the practice squad and a first round draft pick that can’t catch the ball when it hits him in the hands and the least creative coaching staff in the NFL. Yeah, Eli’s done.
How about the fact that the offense hasn't scored 30 points since the 2015 season?
The NFL golden boy Dak had a pretty rough day. See, all of the sudden he doesn’t have an All Pro RB and he doesn’t look so good even with that all world offensive line and Dez and HOF TE. Yeah, sure, he can still run around but no running back kind of has an impact.
But Eli? No doubt he’s done because he can’t play a perfect game with lousy running backs, a for shit offensive line, WRs off the practice squad and a first round draft pick that can’t catch the ball when it hits him in the hands and the least creative coaching staff in the NFL. Yeah, Eli’s done.
How about the fact that the offense hasn't scored 30 points since the 2015 season?
These receivers will run routes deeper than 3 yards or hang on to the ball for another QB? Will we suddenly be able to rush for more than a 100 yards for another QB? Seems like there are a lot deeper issues at play here
but watching Eli, it just looks like he doesn't care anymore....whatever edge he use to have, it's gone.....there just doesn't look like there is any fire in his body....I know the line sucks....his receivers suck.....but there were plays to be made out there by an NFL QB.....he did not make them.....not that he can't make them....it's like he has accepted that this offense is so bad, why even try...
Eli doesn't care anymore?
It doesn't look like there's any fire in his body? (What the fuck does that mean?)
Why even try?
After a decade plus, two Super Bowls and a multitude of amazing plays and memories, he doesn't care? He's not trying?
Holy fucking shit. What an awesome fan you are.
He makes mistakes. He's struggling with this shit offensive unit. And his coach is a complete fucking joke.
But Eli cares. He prepares as well and as hard as he can.
No way. You may be right, they may move on, but they wouldnt blindside eli. They would be honest and release him before it got to that point. I don't see it going down that way though
The NFL golden boy Dak had a pretty rough day. See, all of the sudden he doesn’t have an All Pro RB and he doesn’t look so good even with that all world offensive line and Dez and HOF TE. Yeah, sure, he can still run around but no running back kind of has an impact.
But Eli? No doubt he’s done because he can’t play a perfect game with lousy running backs, a for shit offensive line, WRs off the practice squad and a first round draft pick that can’t catch the ball when it hits him in the hands and the least creative coaching staff in the NFL. Yeah, Eli’s done.
If you can’t see why this comparison makes no sense, it’s not going to be with the discussion
I mean none and the giants lead the league in drops. If Eli is going to be the q.v. next year playing Webb makes no sense. To me, if you play Webb now, you have to move on from eli moving forward next season. I don't think that's the plan.
JT, don't waste your time. They expect Eli to be perfect, even with the 8th combination of OL and street FA for WR.
RE: Really enjoyed the way Eli elevated the game... Â
I mean none and the giants lead the league in drops. If Eli is going to be the q.v. next year playing Webb makes no sense. To me, if you play Webb now, you have to move on from eli moving forward next season. I don't think that's the plan.
JT, don't waste your time. They expect Eli to be perfect, even with the 8th combination of OL and street FA for WR.
Perfect...?
This guy is kidding, right?
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I could really feel the energy through the TV screen.
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but watching Eli, it just looks like he doesn't care anymore....whatever edge he use to have, it's gone.....there just doesn't look like there is any fire in his body....I know the line sucks....his receivers suck.....but there were plays to be made out there by an NFL QB.....he did not make them.....not that he can't make them....it's like he has accepted that this offense is so bad, why even try...
Who can blame him? His lousy receivers can't catch the ball when he puts it right in their hands! He's probably pissed off, but has so much class that he won't throw anyone under the bus.
Why is this an acceptable excuse for the guy who is supposed to be the leader?
The problem is this year when there was a decent running game and a little better protection, he still looked very average.
And if the next guy can't do more than we are no worse of...
PLUS: The conditioning of our players is poor.
That's not fair. They play an inordinate amount of snaps because the offense can't stay on the field.
The offense had run 12 plays in the second half when Cousins threw his second TD. There's no amount of conditioning that makes the amount of plays this defense has to play a sustainable thing.
No, it's not.
and they almost covered.
They have been so bad this year that bad looks good. Think about that.
The only reason this team doesn't resemble the 1980 saints is the D has a lot of talent and there's a borderline hot qb behind center. The coaching and direction all year has been unspeakably terrible. Just hang in there everyone... take the pain... we are almost done. Then pray the Giants "panic." Panic can be a good thing.
woot woot!!
Seriously, I’d take a terrible blow job over watching this team any day.
Its almost embarrassing that the Redskins couldn't stop those...
This team could find a way to ruin even that.
That's the only way a Giants game is enjoyable these days
But Eli? No doubt he’s done because he can’t play a perfect game with lousy running backs, a for shit offensive line, WRs off the practice squad and a first round draft pick that can’t catch the ball when it hits him in the hands and the least creative coaching staff in the NFL. Yeah, Eli’s done.
But Eli? No doubt he’s done because he can’t play a perfect game with lousy running backs, a for shit offensive line, WRs off the practice squad and a first round draft pick that can’t catch the ball when it hits him in the hands and the least creative coaching staff in the NFL. Yeah, Eli’s done.
How about the fact that the offense hasn't scored 30 points since the 2015 season?
His defenders claim just give him an above average line running game and receivers. 25 qbs can succeed with that in this league.
And if the problem is everyone around him this means it's not going to happen timely enough for Eli to demonstrate he can still play. And how long does that last? He set up for a good 2019?
It's time to be done and move on. He's had a great career he's a great guy. he's rich as hell and has a beautiful wife and family and a life I would kill for.
So no he doesn't deserve a Better ending and I don't feel bad for him. It's clear he's done.
Mac is done and reese is done too. Almost all agree on that. But the Eli cult here has to get real and realize he has to be done too.
But Eli? No doubt he’s done because he can’t play a perfect game with lousy running backs, a for shit offensive line, WRs off the practice squad and a first round draft pick that can’t catch the ball when it hits him in the hands and the least creative coaching staff in the NFL. Yeah, Eli’s done.
Oh fuck off. No one makes Eli fire passes into the ground but Eli.
If your yardstick for Eli is Dak fucking Prescott, then I don't know what else to say to you.
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The NFL golden boy Dak had a pretty rough day. See, all of the sudden he doesn’t have an All Pro RB and he doesn’t look so good even with that all world offensive line and Dez and HOF TE. Yeah, sure, he can still run around but no running back kind of has an impact.
But Eli? No doubt he’s done because he can’t play a perfect game with lousy running backs, a for shit offensive line, WRs off the practice squad and a first round draft pick that can’t catch the ball when it hits him in the hands and the least creative coaching staff in the NFL. Yeah, Eli’s done.
How about the fact that the offense hasn't scored 30 points since the 2015 season?
Ok, how about it?
Four of their seven first downs came on the FG drive. They gained one first down on three other drives.
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The NFL golden boy Dak had a pretty rough day. See, all of the sudden he doesn’t have an All Pro RB and he doesn’t look so good even with that all world offensive line and Dez and HOF TE. Yeah, sure, he can still run around but no running back kind of has an impact.
But Eli? No doubt he’s done because he can’t play a perfect game with lousy running backs, a for shit offensive line, WRs off the practice squad and a first round draft pick that can’t catch the ball when it hits him in the hands and the least creative coaching staff in the NFL. Yeah, Eli’s done.
How about the fact that the offense hasn't scored 30 points since the 2015 season?
Ok, how about it?
Enjoy your denial.
But Eli? No doubt he’s done because he can’t play a perfect game
If you're gonna argue, at least argue things that people are actually saying.
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The NFL golden boy Dak had a pretty rough day. See, all of the sudden he doesn’t have an All Pro RB and he doesn’t look so good even with that all world offensive line and Dez and HOF TE. Yeah, sure, he can still run around but no running back kind of has an impact.
But Eli? No doubt he’s done because he can’t play a perfect game with lousy running backs, a for shit offensive line, WRs off the practice squad and a first round draft pick that can’t catch the ball when it hits him in the hands and the least creative coaching staff in the NFL. Yeah, Eli’s done.
How about the fact that the offense hasn't scored 30 points since the 2015 season?
Ok, how about it?
Enjoy your denial.
Enjoy your bafoonic head coach.
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The NFL golden boy Dak had a pretty rough day. See, all of the sudden he doesn’t have an All Pro RB and he doesn’t look so good even with that all world offensive line and Dez and HOF TE. Yeah, sure, he can still run around but no running back kind of has an impact.
But Eli? No doubt he’s done because he can’t play a perfect game with lousy running backs, a for shit offensive line, WRs off the practice squad and a first round draft pick that can’t catch the ball when it hits him in the hands and the least creative coaching staff in the NFL. Yeah, Eli’s done.
How about the fact that the offense hasn't scored 30 points since the 2015 season?
Ok, how about it?
Enjoy your denial.
Enjoy your bafoonic head coach.
They're not mutually exclusive, genius..
So does Flowers, Apple, poor FA OL, and a portfolio of failed picks in rounds 3-7 during his tenure.
The guy has to go.
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But Eli? No doubt he’s done because he can’t play a perfect game
If you're gonna argue, at least argue things that people are actually saying.
No one in this thread said Eli’s done?
Eli doesn't care anymore?
It doesn't look like there's any fire in his body? (What the fuck does that mean?)
Why even try?
After a decade plus, two Super Bowls and a multitude of amazing plays and memories, he doesn't care? He's not trying?
Holy fucking shit. What an awesome fan you are.
He makes mistakes. He's struggling with this shit offensive unit. And his coach is a complete fucking joke.
But Eli cares. He prepares as well and as hard as he can.
Your post is watery shit.
But Eli? No doubt he’s done because he can’t play a perfect game with lousy running backs, a for shit offensive line, WRs off the practice squad and a first round draft pick that can’t catch the ball when it hits him in the hands and the least creative coaching staff in the NFL. Yeah, Eli’s done.
If you can’t see why this comparison makes no sense, it’s not going to be with the discussion
The scheme, OL, RBs, and WRs are strike replacement player caliber talent.
JT, don't waste your time. They expect Eli to be perfect, even with the 8th combination of OL and street FA for WR.
I could really feel the energy through the TV screen.
Just like Dak this year or Wentz last year.
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I mean none and the giants lead the league in drops. If Eli is going to be the q.v. next year playing Webb makes no sense. To me, if you play Webb now, you have to move on from eli moving forward next season. I don't think that's the plan.
JT, don't waste your time. They expect Eli to be perfect, even with the 8th combination of OL and street FA for WR.
Perfect...?
This guy is kidding, right?
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...of those around him tonight.
I could really feel the energy through the TV screen.
Just like Dak this year or Wentz last year.
Eli isn't a rookie or 2nd year QB..