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How many games do the Giants have to win

markky : 11/24/2017 8:23 am
now for McAdoo and Reese to keep their jobs?

I bet the KC players feel like shit after watching this on Thanksgiving. We lost to THESE guys?
Its not about wins/losses  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 11/24/2017 8:32 am : link
how much faith do you really have in Reese to fix this roster? How much do you believe Ben really has gotten the most out of this roster?

Both have failed. Reese needs to go and the entire staff.
Sorry, I am being facetious  
markky : 11/24/2017 8:37 am : link
based on the similar thread from last week.

they have to go. personally i'm at a loss. is it the OL, Eli, Reese, McAdoof, etc. I do know we sucked before the injuries, so it's not the injuries.

and it's clear that McAdoof's system and game planning are not productive. and that he's not a leader.

and Reese has blown a couple of premium picks (I hate the strategy of picking the youngest player on the board. Game theory tells me that picking a player that will take an extra year to be NFL ready is not the best strategy, given the rookie salary cap and structure of 2nd contracts). and he hasn't built a team with depth.

but i have no idea how to apportion blame this season. it's such a shit show.
I don’t give a fuck if they win out.  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 11/24/2017 8:40 am : link
If they both aren’t gone after the last game there is something seriously wrong wit this organization. If they are awarded company vehicles take their keys away and let them take a bus, train, or Uber home!
Another pathetic loss against another pathetic team. Our  
Blue21 : 11/24/2017 9:20 am : link
offense is pathetic and has been for years especially the last two. He has no answers. Many injuries yes but our offense was pathetic when we were healthy too.
Reese was  
rocco8112 : 11/24/2017 9:22 am : link
put on notice after 2015. He has failed to improve the roster. He should be fired and replaced. This next GM should get to pick a coach.



McAdoo is a disaster, he was promoted to keep the offense humming for Eli's last seasons. Since he took the big chair the Giants offense is league worst. The Giants, o line running issues and all, had a top flight offense for over a decade until this guy became HC. This alone is concerning. He also has players quit on him and as far as we know has nothing to do with the defense.

Last season's 11 wins was fools gold and not a sign of foundation moving forward. Keeping McAdoo would be an insult to all fans.

Giving Teflon Reese more chances to axrew up, including maybe a top three pick, would be insane. Reese had TC as the fall guy in 2015, he should have been fired two seasons ago.
When are the owners  
XBRONX : 11/24/2017 9:32 am : link
going to release the secret video they have? I believe it will show Reese in the draft room throwing darts at the board, before making the next selection.
Both should be  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/24/2017 9:33 am : link
unemployed on 1/1/18.
They played hard last night on D  
djm : 11/24/2017 9:33 am : link
But that's another sort of demoralizing loss as the D knows they have no shot in these games with how bad the offense looks. I suspect the Giants have another quit moment or two in them here. They rallied the last two weeks but the effort probably won't last.

Almost over. Dallas is fading too which is nice. Just need to get rid of philly somehow and this nightmare will be over.
HOW CAN THEY WIN OUT?  
Doomster : 11/24/2017 10:51 am : link
If the other teams forfeit their games, basically.....

It's amazing that they won the two games that they did....some of the games they lost, they had played better and should have won, but the defense went south in the fourth quarter...

For years, this offense has been shooting itself in the foot......be it an int, fumble, dropped pass, motion penalty, missed block, play calling, etc.

We are now at the point, where this offense now needs 3 completions, just to get a first down.....three freakin' completions.....

For us to beat another team, they have to play worse than us...is that even possible?
7  
jeff57 : 11/24/2017 10:56 am : link
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RE: 7  
old man : 11/24/2017 9:42 pm : link
In comment 13703744 jeff57 said:
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I'd a said 8. But I'm not a Mara so it just may be: Beat Philly, Dallas or Washington.
RE: Reese was  
old man : 11/24/2017 9:50 pm : link
In comment 13703612 rocco8112 said:
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put on notice after 2015. He has failed to improve the roster. He should be fired and replaced. This next GM should get to pick a coach.



McAdoo is a disaster, he was promoted to keep the offense humming for Eli's last seasons. Since he took the big chair the Giants offense is league worst. The Giants, o line running issues and all, had a top flight offense for over a decade until this guy became HC. This alone is concerning. He also has players quit on him and as far as we know has nothing to do with the defense.

Last season's 11 wins was fools gold and not a sign of foundation moving forward. Keeping McAdoo would be an insult to all fans.

Giving Teflon Reese more chances to axrew up, including maybe a top three pick, would be insane. Reese had TC as the fall guy in 2015, he should have been fired two seasons ago.


Unless they separate Reese from Ross, can Ross but keep Reese, there's no one left in the chain, not named Chris Mara, that was dumped(TC) or put on notice, OTHER THAN JR.
I broke a lamp  
old man : 11/24/2017 10:00 pm : link
about 8 years ago and I'm not handy, but I've used duct take, glue, scotch tape and elastic bands to put it back together.
I've failed.
My wife said ' You can't fix it. The wisest thing to do is let somebody than is better able to fix it do it. Otherwise it'll never get fixed.'
Think: Analogy.
If Mac or Reese are back,  
Glover : 11/25/2017 4:00 am : link
hell if anyone is back from this coaching staff/front office, I will be disappointed. The Giants usual loyalty needs to be suspended for a total rebuild. For real. Flat out embarrassing players (GM) and coaching. Horrible in so many ways. For 3 years Reese assembles a terrible O line, and then the coaching staff makes bad decisions about said bad players, I dont want a soul left from these general management or coaching regimes. Not a fucking soul.
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