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ray in arlington : 11/24/2017 8:50 am
Hard to believe the Giants could fall out of the Top 6 - it would require 2 Giants wins and one of the seven 4-6 teams losing out and the Giants losing a tiebreaker.

The draft order tiebreaker is strength of schedule. This is based on games happening this year, not last year.

The SOS based on games played so far is not necessarily of interest, as it includes irrelevant games for which both teams will have played the same opponent before the year ends. The only relevant games in an SOS comparison between two teams are games they don't have in common, and one can just total up wins in those games rather than calculate the SOS percentage.

The total wins are given in parentheses - the team with smaller amount is trending toward picking ahead in case of a tie.

1. CLE 0-10 (NYG 94 CLE 95)* [NYG can get 40 more, CLE can get 43 more]
2. SF 1-9 (NYG 59 SF 60)* [NYG can get 26 more, SF can get 28 more]
3. NYG 2-9
4. IND 3-7 (IND 70 NYG 76)* [IND can get 38 more, NYG can get 38 more]
5. DEN 3-7 (DEN 58 NYG 59)* [DEN can get 23 more, NYG can get 27 more]
6. CHI 3-7 (NYG 62 CHI 72)
Seven teams are at 4-6

* = includes automatic pickups from future games (a more refined calculation). The numbers in brackets indicate possible pickups from future games. Pickups are bad if you want to pick earlier.

This week
CLE is at CIN
SF is home vs SEA
IND is home vs TEN
DEN is at OAK
CHI is at PHI
Ugh  
BigBlueShock : 11/24/2017 8:52 am : link
We need some of these terrible teams to win some games and I don’t see a win in that group this week.
Hopefully they dont get past the 3rd slot  
Jim in Forest Hills : 11/24/2017 8:54 am : link
Would love to get past SF for the 2nd spot because they will have the golden ticket to leapfrog the Giants with a trade out. Do not want to get out manuevered again. If there are 2 top QB prospects, I want a clean shot at 1 of them without a trade up.
Possible wins ...  
TommytheElephant : 11/24/2017 9:31 am : link
SF and IND
We're gonna pay for that Chiefs win....  
kinard : 11/24/2017 9:32 am : link
... how did KC lose that game?
I find it very possible that  
Koldegaard : 11/24/2017 9:38 am : link
Cleveland can beat Cinci this weekend.
Just a feeling. They can stop the run and they will get a win
this season. Not that it would change the draft order but stil...
In terms of those teams playing each other  
TommytheElephant : 11/24/2017 9:40 am : link
Week 13
Niners @ Bears

Week 15
Broncos @ colts

Week 16
Browns @ Bears

RE: I find it very possible that  
BigBlueShock : 11/24/2017 9:41 am : link
In comment 13703642 Koldegaard said:
Quote:
Cleveland can beat Cinci this weekend.
Just a feeling. They can stop the run and they will get a win
this season. Not that it would change the draft order but stil...

Resting your hopes on the Browns is the definition of insanity
QB? Is that all you think we need?  
Alwaysblue22 : 11/24/2017 9:53 am : link
WE have Webb in the stable and the only QB now coming out that is better then Webb in terms of ability to adapt to the NFL is Baker Mayfield who is a combination of Drew Brees with the fire of Philip Rivers. Mayfield will not be selected in the top 5, because many "gurus" foolishly think he is too short or too animated compared to a placid QB like ELI. In any event, we need to build up our weakest link. We need a guard like Nelson of ND to move people off the LOS. Nelson and Fluker at guard can do more for this team than another QB sitting on the bench and waiting for ELi to retire. We also need another tall WR to fill the hole left by Marshall who may be back for his final curtain call ... but do not count on it. Sheppard in the slot look likes another bust. WE need immediate help at Linebacker where this team lacks speed and at free safety. Another tackle ( Flowers has actually become average now).. to play on the right side. And you never have enough pass rushers. We need a a true bell cow RB. This is the debacle created by Reese and if he was not a MINORITY person he would have been fired already.There are other black coaches who can make better GMs than Reese . Mike Tomlin is a brilliant coach of the Steelers who is devoted to power football. Perhaps he would like a front office job... but I think he loves coaching. We should try to hire Nick Saban of Alabama as our GM.. and let him select the best college players and the next head coach. Reese cannot remain as the GM of this team and Mara should not worry about any PR problems connected with FIRING HIM. As far as Mack is concerned ... he is what is record says he is ...there is nothing more to be said about this brain dead coach. He should be fired as soon as the final whistle blows at the end of the last game.
Holy crap  
BigBlueShock : 11/24/2017 10:04 am : link
That post is a train wreck.
That post is like 12 different threads  
Jimmy Googs : 11/24/2017 10:05 am : link
over a 3 month period...
Would love to see Cleveland win a game  
Jimmy Googs : 11/24/2017 10:06 am : link
and watch this site light up with excitement...
RE: QB? Is that all you think we need?  
Jim in Forest Hills : 11/24/2017 10:09 am : link
In comment 13703664 Alwaysblue22 said:
Quote:
WE have Webb in the stable and the only QB now coming out that is better then Webb in terms of ability to adapt to the NFL is Baker Mayfield who is a combination of Drew Brees with the fire of Philip Rivers. Mayfield will not be selected in the top 5, because many "gurus" foolishly think he is too short or too animated compared to a placid QB like ELI. In any event, we need to build up our weakest link. We need a guard like Nelson of ND to move people off the LOS. Nelson and Fluker at guard can do more for this team than another QB sitting on the bench and waiting for ELi to retire. We also need another tall WR to fill the hole left by Marshall who may be back for his final curtain call ... but do not count on it. Sheppard in the slot look likes another bust. WE need immediate help at Linebacker where this team lacks speed and at free safety. Another tackle ( Flowers has actually become average now).. to play on the right side. And you never have enough pass rushers. We need a a true bell cow RB. This is the debacle created by Reese and if he was not a MINORITY person he would have been fired already.There are other black coaches who can make better GMs than Reese . Mike Tomlin is a brilliant coach of the Steelers who is devoted to power football. Perhaps he would like a front office job... but I think he loves coaching. We should try to hire Nick Saban of Alabama as our GM.. and let him select the best college players and the next head coach. Reese cannot remain as the GM of this team and Mara should not worry about any PR problems connected with FIRING HIM. As far as Mack is concerned ... he is what is record says he is ...there is nothing more to be said about this brain dead coach. He should be fired as soon as the final whistle blows at the end of the last game.


Yes there are many needs, you don't solve a 2-9 team in 1 offseason. But you want to avoid the 14 years of Dave Brown, Danny Kanell, Kent Graham, Mike Cherry, Kerry Collins before Eli. Get the QB first, this is the biggest lever in any football team. CLE traded down from Wentz to accrue picks, great job, wait where are they?
Mayfield would never be our pick  
Bleedblue10 : 11/24/2017 12:13 pm : link
He doesn’t fit what the giants look for in a qb. I like him but I don’t think he has any chance to be our pick
And FYI Sheppard def isn’t a bust  
Bleedblue10 : 11/24/2017 12:15 pm : link
He’s been hurt but has played extremely well all season.
Fuck Cleveland no way they win two games  
est1986 : 11/24/2017 12:42 pm : link
Indy and Chicago scares me.. Think they pick ahead of us along with SF and CLE. We will pick fifth or later thanks to that OT win vs KC. We miss out on Barkley, Darnold, Rosen and the best available OL. Just Great.
Bears  
old man : 11/24/2017 4:17 pm : link
have 9ers, Bengals, Browns in final 5.
Indy IS a worry but unless they think Luck is not toast and/or Brissett is the answer even if he is, they go OL.
RE: Bears  
old man : 11/24/2017 4:20 pm : link
In comment 13704124 old man said:
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have 9ers, Bengals, Browns in final 5.
Indy IS a worry but unless they think Luck is not toast and/or Brissett is the answer even if he is, they go OL.


And Broncos have Fins, Jets, Colts.
Bears beat Eagles in shocker,  
wgenesis123 : 11/24/2017 4:46 pm : link
Denver wins ugly game with Raiders.
Baker Mayfield  
Marty866b : 11/24/2017 7:49 pm : link
" Is the only quarterback who is better then Davis Webb in the upcoming draft." Wow!!!. I hope the Giants aren't thinking this way.
Gotta lose them all  
spike : 11/24/2017 9:48 pm : link
We cant screw this up
RE: Fuck Cleveland no way they win two games  
spike : 11/24/2017 9:49 pm : link
In comment 13703906 est1986 said:
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Indy and Chicago scares me.. Think they pick ahead of us along with SF and CLE. We will pick fifth or later thanks to that OT win vs KC. We miss out on Barkley, Darnold, Rosen and the best available OL. Just Great.


We will end up with an OL whos blind in one eye
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