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Little Giants : 11/28/2017 3:27 pm
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Matt  
B in ALB : 11/28/2017 7:00 pm : link
I like your post. But why not handle the Eli situation a bit differently. Be honest with Eli about playing Webb and I'm sure he gets it. With the caveat that if he wants to explore a trade in the offseason, so be it. NO reason to embarrass and disrespect him like this now. Especially with a lame duck coach, as you project.
Eli, I appreciate all you gave to Giants fans  
dcp : 11/28/2017 7:11 pm : link
over the past 210 games. Could the Giants management have handled this better, sure. Sometimes the greats also overstay their welcome. Eli has his legacy intact while McAdoo and Reece brush up their C.V. Full rebuild is around the corner. Hopefully Mara and Tisch commission Parcells as a sounding board for any hires. It's always darkest before the dawn, Giants fans. Use the Eagles model and trade up to get the right QB, if he is there.
RE: Matt  
Matt in SGS : 11/28/2017 7:23 pm : link
In comment 13709669 B in ALB said:
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I like your post. But why not handle the Eli situation a bit differently. Be honest with Eli about playing Webb and I'm sure he gets it. With the caveat that if he wants to explore a trade in the offseason, so be it. NO reason to embarrass and disrespect him like this now. Especially with a lame duck coach, as you project.


There is no good way to push out a legend. Look at what happened in SF when Montana was moved to KC. Or Favre to the Jets and then to the Vikings. Hell, even Eli's brother got the shaft in Indy when they released him to make way for Luck. That said, there were probably better ways to handle it.

Ultimately, McAdoo is just further digging his own grave with his comments and it plays to the game Mara will be playing. At the end of the day, the Giants will pick in the top 3 and will take a QB. If you bring in a new coach, you don't want that coach to have to deal with the problem of pushing out Eli for the new QB. That's a tough start. Let McAdoo take the hit. Like a pitcher in a blowout game, he's gonna suck up his ERA getting lit up and take one for the team. In this case, McAdoo is going to be a PR nightmare, and it appears that he sucks at working the press and fans anyway, so screw it.

Everything stinks about this, there is no nice way of doing this. All that is left is to fire McAdoo and Reese after the season and look to trade Eli and let a new coach and new QB begin a new era of Giants football.
RE: I'm no fan of McAdoo  
seanr : 11/28/2017 7:25 pm : link
In comment 13709276 Vanzetti said:
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but if he thinks the QB is not making plays he should, then he is absolutely right to try something different

no one has a guaranteed job

Fuck What McAdoo thinks he is a moron.

that said, I expect the offense to be just as lousy under Geno.
RE: stand for the anthem  
djm : 11/28/2017 7:27 pm : link
In comment 13708178 Rocky369 said:
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and kneel for the rest of the game. I would tune in for that.


God that would be so awesome.
RE: Mara is also letting Mac hang himself  
djm : 11/28/2017 7:37 pm : link
In comment 13708402 PatersonPlank said:
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He knows how unpopular this will be, it makes firing that slob so much easier.

It's amazing how much one bad hire, in the wrong spot, can hurt.


This is my take too. Sort of. I think Mara figures fuck it, mcadoo "deserves" the right to make a change at qb even if he's lost and at the very worst, Geno plays worse and nothing saves this offense anyway. If Geno actually out plays Eli... I can't even process that.

I want to hibernate. This season is fucking gross. Make it go away. Please.

Why does it have to be Geno fucking smith??? Why him??? Why couldn't they just start giving Webb reps the last few weeks and start him???? Why??? Is it so outlandish to give Webb reps in practice after being red shirted all fucking season???? Ok fine he came from a spread offense... for fucks sake coach him up already!!!! No... not our team. Ben feels Geno smith is the right man for this job. He will save this offense.

My god I can't believe how crazy this is. Handley was better. A lot better!!!!
David Carr  
montanagiant : 11/28/2017 7:38 pm : link
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They've lost their collective minds
McAdoo doesn't have the balls to do this without notifying ownership  
baadbill : 11/28/2017 7:44 pm : link
... Mara gave his ok.
Un friggin' believable  
short lease : 11/28/2017 7:46 pm : link
And of course Eli handles it with class ...


“Coach McAdoo told me I could continue to start while Geno and Davis [Webb] are given an opportunity to play. My feeling is that if you are going to play the other guys, play them,” Manning said. “Starting just to keep the streak going and knowing you won’t finish the game and have a chance to win it is pointless to me, and it tarnishes the streak. Like I always have, I will be ready to play if and when I am needed. I will help Geno and Davis prepare to play as well as they possibly can.”



If McAdoo had any change for a 3rd year he just fell on the sword. Spite or Stupidity? He really is an idiot.
RE: 2 things  
Jimmy Googs : 11/28/2017 7:46 pm : link
In comment 13708271 LG in NYC said:
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TBone - congrats

Geno over Webb - the more I think about it, this make sense. once you decide to see what the other guys have, you have to start Geno for game or 2 and allow Webb to take more reps in practice and get him ready for the final 2-3 games.

If geno sucks, you get Webb in quicker... if Geno looks good, well that is a different and more interesting dilemma. either way, it probably makes more sense than starting Webb cold.


Exactly...
RE: Un friggin' believable  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/28/2017 7:48 pm : link
In comment 13709869 short lease said:
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And of course Eli handles it with class ...


“Coach McAdoo told me I could continue to start while Geno and Davis [Webb] are given an opportunity to play. My feeling is that if you are going to play the other guys, play them,” Manning said. “Starting just to keep the streak going and knowing you won’t finish the game and have a chance to win it is pointless to me, and it tarnishes the streak. Like I always have, I will be ready to play if and when I am needed. I will help Geno and Davis prepare to play as well as they possibly can.”



If McAdoo had any change for a 3rd year he just fell on the sword. Spite or Stupidity? He really is an idiot.


McAdoo's only chance of returning was that Webb looks really good. Playing out the string with Eli made that .005% chance of returning non-existent.
RE: McAdoo - says Webb will see some time too.  
short lease : 11/28/2017 7:50 pm : link
In comment 13708158 Heisenberg said:
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“Geno will start this week,” McAdoo said. “Over the last five games, we will take a look at Geno, and we will also give Davis an opportunity.”


Why Mac ... what do you care how Davis plays. You will have no part in his progress as a coach - unless you both end up on the same team down the road.

Look at him talking like he is going to be here next year .... WTF?
CLOWN SHOW  
Simms : 11/28/2017 7:51 pm : link
We have NO CLASS.
We have become the NFC East's version of the browns.
So for all those on BBI that have said emphatically  
Jimmy Googs : 11/28/2017 7:53 pm : link
over the past few weeks that 1) Webb would/should not play at all in 2017, and that 2) Eli will be the starting QB next season, I only have one thing to say....


TOLD YOU!




Geno Smith .... hahaha  
short lease : 11/28/2017 7:53 pm : link
I don't care if you are borrowing money at 100% interest rate.

Get all the money you can and put it on the Raiders. Easy payday .... Free money.

38 - 0 ... at HALFTIME!
I am ok if Eli steps aside  
dune69 : 11/28/2017 7:53 pm : link
for Webb's chance. For Geno, to what end? If the Giants score 35 this weekend, will management say it was all Eli's fault like the coach has been saying for two years?

Reese and his staff needs to be given their walking papers immediately. We need competence in preparation for the next draft and the new team need to get to work now.

McAdoo can coach out the year but not a second longer.

I have been so deflated by this ownership/management fiasco that I have only commented on this team about 5 times this year. Not fun.

Two more things, find Eli a new home where he can finish his career.

Congratulations T-Bone. Best news in this thread.


RE: CLASSLESS ORGANIZATION  
chopperhatch : 11/28/2017 7:56 pm : link
In comment 13709326 PaulN said:
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Mara, Reese, and McAdoo. GO FUCK YOURSELVES. I am through until Reese and McAdoo are gone, until then I am a Jacksonville fan, fuck this piece of shit organization.


Im going to hold you to that. Now can you fuck off?

Some of the dumbest shit I have read on this board has come under your name.
I realized today that I'm really not even a Giants fan.  
Jerz44 : 11/28/2017 7:58 pm : link
I'm more of an Eli Fan.

If Eli went to the Eagles right now, I'd probably root for them to win it all.

Geno,  
GiantsUA : 11/28/2017 8:18 pm : link
I would think about calling in sick, this is a lose-lose for you and have you seen the offensive line block? Not good.

The coach is not doing you a favor.

Remember the old saying, he who turns and runs away, lives to fight another day.
Nothing really to add...  
T-Bone : 11/28/2017 8:26 pm : link
Just wanted to say thank you to you guys for the congratulations. That’s all.
RE: Let  
Giant4Life : 11/28/2017 8:30 pm : link
In comment 13709469 PaulN said:
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I never wanted the Giants to lose a game before this game, and I want them to get blown out 50-0. Mara has no class at all, he is a gutless piece of shit, hiding behind two of the most incompetent people in the sport.

Ernie Acorsi and Eli Manning, Thank You for our Super Bowls, I never thought this piece of shit was any good and this proves it all. let me hear how classy the Giants are now, the most classless handling of a two time Super Bowl MVP in NFL history, that is what John Mara is now.

I agree. First time I have no interest in the Giants winning. I hope they get blown out the rest of the season.
I get moving on  
aimrocky : 11/28/2017 8:30 pm : link
But I don’t understand doing it now. Who wants to deal with 5 more weeks of talking about this? Just to get 12 quarters of film on Davis Webb with street free agents? Doesn’t seem worth it for me.

The proper way to handle this is exactly as Mara said when addressing McAdoo. Wait till seasons end then evaluate as a whole. If they decide to move on, then rip off the band aid then. This option drags Eli and the fans through the mud.
How does this hurt?  
Jimmy Googs : 11/28/2017 8:33 pm : link
other than, of course, the hurt Eli just took...
RE: Geno,  
short lease : 11/28/2017 8:33 pm : link
In comment 13710013 GiantsUA said:
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I would think about calling in sick, this is a lose-lose for you and have you seen the offensive line block? Not good.

The coach is not doing you a favor.

Remember the old saying, he who turns and runs away, lives to fight another day.


I am beginning to think this whole thing is a ruse .... The Raiders will prep for Geno and he shows up Sunday with a cast on his throwing arm after suffering a "slip slide" in the bathroom ... Eli starts and leads the Giants to a win (and preserves his streak). That has to be the only logical explanation ....?

The Richter scale went off today when the collective jaws of the NFL hit the floor with this announcement ... I am beyond shocked. I am sick to my stomach .... and there is STILL A MONTH LEFT. WHAT NEXT?!

This is beyond unreal ... it is surreal.
Where is the best  
XBRONX : 11/28/2017 8:37 pm : link
place to get a Geno jersey?
To bad this wasn't a home game ....  
short lease : 11/28/2017 8:41 pm : link

I would have loved to have seen a completely empty stadium because of fan protest.
Disgusted with this franchise  
BBelle21 : 11/28/2017 8:41 pm : link
Shameful disgusting move. Carl Banks was livid and expressed himself on Twitter. Snacks comes on talking at Carl Banks and talking complete nonsense! Made me realize that these clowns on this team have no idea about Giants pride and history. It’s all just smoke and mirrors. JPP joking around in the background as Eli is addressing his benching. Maybe he didn’t know yet? Regardless, what has happened to this franchise? Benching Eli felt like the end of the best of the Giants. Damn near impossible to root for this franchise anymore.
About Eli’s streak  
BBelle21 : 11/28/2017 8:43 pm : link
I think he made it damn clear today that Eli himself doesn’t give a damn about his streak too. He cares about winning. THIS is one of a hundred reason why fans are infuriated today. You bastards benched the wrong man.
I’m sure Eli Apple  
McNally's_Nuts : 11/28/2017 8:45 pm : link
will start when he’s proven nothing and is, for all purposes....a baby back bitch.
Drop dead Mara Tisch  
trueblueinpw : 11/28/2017 9:04 pm : link
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there is more going on here than a simple change of QB.  
Giant John : 11/28/2017 9:11 pm : link
I think Mac has been looking to throw Eli under the bus for a while. Now he has his chance. Let’s watch and see how it turns out for him...
This Hurts.  
Rolyrock : 11/28/2017 9:16 pm : link
Feel like punching McAdoo in his face. He should be fired, this is betrayal. Can't believe it
I won't watch on Sunday, I'm done.  
02/03/2008 : 11/28/2017 9:26 pm : link
I'm done with this asshole McAdoo. I may make the trip to the Giants game just to boo him out of here.

Yes, Eli streak matters to me, because it matters to him. He has been all class during his years here with some shitty teams and teammate throwing him under the bus. The season is over, why fuck one more thing up.
RE: How does this hurt?  
02/03/2008 : 11/28/2017 9:31 pm : link
Shut up!

comment 13710081 Jimmy Googs said:
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other than, of course, the hurt Eli just took...
How do we know this doesn't orginate from Ownership?  
DavidinBMNY : 11/28/2017 9:33 pm : link
They're all on the same page right as per McADone.
RE: RE: Matt  
HomerJones45 : 11/28/2017 9:36 pm : link
In comment 13709774 Matt in SGS said:
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In comment 13709669 B in ALB said:


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I like your post. But why not handle the Eli situation a bit differently. Be honest with Eli about playing Webb and I'm sure he gets it. With the caveat that if he wants to explore a trade in the offseason, so be it. NO reason to embarrass and disrespect him like this now. Especially with a lame duck coach, as you project.



There is no good way to push out a legend. Look at what happened in SF when Montana was moved to KC. Or Favre to the Jets and then to the Vikings. Hell, even Eli's brother got the shaft in Indy when they released him to make way for Luck. That said, there were probably better ways to handle it.

Ultimately, McAdoo is just further digging his own grave with his comments and it plays to the game Mara will be playing. At the end of the day, the Giants will pick in the top 3 and will take a QB. If you bring in a new coach, you don't want that coach to have to deal with the problem of pushing out Eli for the new QB. That's a tough start. Let McAdoo take the hit. Like a pitcher in a blowout game, he's gonna suck up his ERA getting lit up and take one for the team. In this case, McAdoo is going to be a PR nightmare, and it appears that he sucks at working the press and fans anyway, so screw it.

Everything stinks about this, there is no nice way of doing this. All that is left is to fire McAdoo and Reese after the season and look to trade Eli and let a new coach and new QB begin a new era of Giants football.
I think you are giving the owners way too much credit for thought, planning and connivance they have heretofore not demonstrated.
Next Home Game  
Devour the Day : 11/28/2017 9:37 pm : link
I sincerely hope that after this classless move by this organization today Benny the Boob, Reese and the Mara spineless no nut boys have the wrath of hell showered on them. I want the stadium filled totally with all the visiting team fans dressed to the max in their team wear and we lose each one of those games 50-0.
Again, if Benny boy and pos Reese are not let go after this debacle I am DONE with this team.
Likely scenario  
yalebowl : 11/28/2017 9:51 pm : link
Geno will get hurt in the game with the Raiders. (I'm not wishing this on Geno). Eli will have to come in and finish the game.
RE: Matt  
christian : 11/28/2017 10:04 pm : link
In comment 13709669 B in ALB said:
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I like your post. But why not handle the Eli situation a bit differently. Be honest with Eli about playing Webb and I'm sure he gets it. With the caveat that if he wants to explore a trade in the offseason, so be it. NO reason to embarrass and disrespect him like this now. Especially with a lame duck coach, as you project.


Per Eli sounds exactly like what they did.
RE: Include me with the minority who are saying...  
Matt M. : 11/28/2017 10:08 pm : link
In comment 13709666 Milton said:
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If the goal is to finish with a top two or three draft pick and Webb isn't far enough along in his development to be put behind center, starting Geno Smith is the surest way to finish the season 2-14. Eli is still capable of steering the team to victory on any given Sunday and maybe that's a risk that management didn't want to take. It's not a decision I would've made, but if you strip away the personal/emotional side of it, this is the best thing for the future of the Giants.

If that is the reason why they would make a decision like this, then it is a reason to not like the ownership. As an organization, your goal should NEVER be to lose a game.
Let me be clear...my reaction to this move has nothing to do with  
Matt M. : 11/28/2017 10:27 pm : link
the streak. I am, however, disgusted by this move to the point that I despise ownership, Reese, and McAdoo, all of whom have no fucking balls or a clue. If they want Webb to play so they can make a more informed decision about the draft, then I can understand this move. I still wouldn't love it, but I could understand.

But, Geno makes no sense. He is not in the current, immediate future, or future plans. He doesn't give them a better chance to win. If, as some suggested, that's the point, then this franchise is morally bankrupt.

I firmly believe Eli is not done. I hope they now give him the dignity of cutting him or trading him (by now I obviously mean after the season). I truly think he will lead a good team deep into the playoffs.

If this move truly has the backing of Reese and ownership, I only hope it doesn't mean that McAdoo and Reese are not getting a pass for another year. That would also prove the franchise is rudderless and clueless.

I wish, in this one instance, Eli would not take the high road and the same goes for the rest of the team. I am actually so disgusted I am torn whether to actually not root for the Giants for the first time this weekend. I can't bring myself to, but I can promise that next year I will be rooting for whatever team Eli ends up on and hope he has a big season. Fuck Mara. Fuck Reese. Fuck McAdoo.

Geno Fucking Smith?!
If I'm mcAdoo  
Paulie Walnuts : 11/28/2017 11:05 pm : link
I dont think I pick Geno to save my ass
WTF is Geno still on the roster?  
spike : 11/28/2017 11:32 pm : link
It's Eli or Webb.

Geno has no future on this roster, or any NFL roster.
RE: If I'm mcAdoo  
PatersonPlank : 11/29/2017 12:36 am : link
In comment 13710522 Paulie Walnuts said:
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I dont think I pick Geno to save my ass


Kind of stupid isn't it, but then again its par for the McAdoo course.
RE: Not really terribly upset that Eli is getting benched  
Matt M. : 11/29/2017 1:05 am : link
In comment 13708641 Greg from LI said:
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Pretty pissed that he's getting benched for a never-will-be like Geno Smith. You want to throw the Webb kid in the deep end and see if he can swim? Fine by me, let's see if he can show us something before they spend a top 5 pick on a QB. What the hell is the point of Geno Smith, though?
This is why most are upset. It's not the streak. It's not blind love for Eli. It's starting Geno after making comments both about winning games and next year. Geno isn't the answer to either of those.
Nothing against Geno  
Bluesbreaker : 11/29/2017 1:09 am : link
but I hope throws 5 picks and fumbles a couple of times .
This is the worst season I have ever witnessed and MacGrease ball has taken the top spot from Ray Handley .
I pray to God they can this smug ass POS !
The Giants have hit rock bottom hell Cleveland could whip our asses 4 out of 5 games .
So great we get the staggering Cowboys at home I hope they
boo every friggen play good bad or ugly much of what will be
ugly . Mara Really you allowed this spam eating slug shit on Eli with nothing at stake . I am fucking stunned I could see if Webb was ready let him play the 2nd half and
the thing about the streak pisses me off as well this change does absolutely nothing for this team FAIL
RE: 2 things  
TJ : 11/29/2017 1:11 am : link
In comment 13708271 LG in NYC said:
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TBone - congrats

Geno over Webb - the more I think about it, this make sense. once you decide to see what the other guys have, you have to start Geno for game or 2 and allow Webb to take more reps in practice and get him ready for the final 2-3 games.

If geno sucks, you get Webb in quicker... if Geno looks good, well that is a different and more interesting dilemma. either way, it probably makes more sense than starting Webb cold.


This is how I figure it too. Except I don't think Geno's performance will impact how fast Webb gets in. I think he gets in as fast as coaches think he can without getting killed.
Its Geno Smith ,you have to be kidding me  
PatersonPlank : 11/29/2017 1:21 am : link
The whole league, and the sports commentators, are laughing their asses off. The guy is not an NFL QB.
Also what is this comment posted to Rock on twitter:  
PatersonPlank : 11/29/2017 1:55 am : link
"Guys were kind of fired up,” Geno Smith said of the reaction from teammates to the announcement. “Guys are giving me hugs, handshakes. I think guys have witnessed my story from afar just seeing how things have kind of played out"

I hope this isn't true, and I seriously doubt it too. Who in their right mind would want to see Geno playing over Eli.
NY Post front page  
montanagiant : 11/29/2017 2:07 am : link
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