Eli's decision!!! Bullshit, he's taking one for the team! Reportedly Eli says McAdoo came to him and said they're putting in Geno but Eli would start to keep streak going. Eli responded the streak means nothing, if they want to play Smith and Webb, then play them!
Damn this organization, you sit your best player on offense???
FUCK THIS TEAM , FUCK THEM ALL!!!
Geno starts to allow Webb to not freak out in his first start but to get comfortable before he comes in.
I don't see the issue. Everyone wanted to see Webb eventually anyway. Starting Geno takes some pressure off of Webb.
As opposed to starting Eli and bringing in Webb late? I can understand wanting to see Webb, but what does Geno have to do with it? Start giving Webb more reps in practice, let him come in relief for Eli, ultimately let him start if he seems ready for that. Why does Geno factor into that at all?
Geno starts to allow Webb to not freak out in his first start but to get comfortable before he comes in.
I don't see the issue. Everyone wanted to see Webb eventually anyway. Starting Geno takes some pressure off of Webb.
As opposed to starting Eli and bringing in Webb late? I can understand wanting to see Webb, but what does Geno have to do with it? Start giving Webb more reps in practice, let him come in relief for Eli, ultimately let him start if he seems ready for that. Why does Geno factor into that at all?
But Eli said he'd rather not start then come out.
I will say this and I know not many will agree with me Â
Eli is the greatest Giant to ever put on the uniform. He is not the best player, but when you factor in what he has done for this franchise, the two SB wins, not missing one game in his entire career due to injury, his work off the field, the class that he has shown, never throwing a coach or a player under the bus, he is the gold standard. Today is a sad day.
I think this has to be Reese and Mac hoping that if Geno plays well then they can ise Eli as a scapegoat and potentially save their jobs. I don't see what else this could possibly be.
A couple of classless fucks who've run this team into the ground and their looking to deflect blame.
At least I won't have to watch this week
Or it has more to do with evaluating if Geno actually is worthy of being a backup QB in the future.
and will crash and burn. What a gutless puke Johnny Boy has become. You know any decision like this was signed off by him. This also seems like they will blame the season on injuries and Eli.
Many actually suggested this scenario (proposing Eli starts just to keep the streak alive and then play Webb). Those who said Eli would find that stupid were correct. I honestly can't believe Geno Smith is starting though. As others have said that is the one option that makes zero sense. He isn't the qb of the future. At least there are the college championships to look forward to, the NFL sucks right now.
I'm 46 years old. My family got season tickets in 1981 - 1981 LT's rookie year...
I've seen Bavaro get cut.
I've seen Simms get cut.
I've seen Coughlin get fired.
Who knows - maybe this isn't the end for Eli with the Giants but this is probably the saddest I've felt about someone related to the Giants. Not exactly sure why...
Maybe I viewed all the other players as past their prime. Maybe I still think of Eli as in his prime. I really thought that he still had magic in his right arm and this could've been Super Bowl #3. It sucks. He had another Super Bowl in him coming off XLVI - Reese just didn't surround him with the talent.
For all the magic you brought us over your career. I am sorry it had to end like this, but most endings aren't the stuff of dreams like Strahan....they end just like this.
I wish you well going forward and I will always remember you, how you fought for the Giants and us fans, how you were always the embodiment of class and for making us proud to root for an organization with you at the helm.
I doubt either Reese or ownership were even consulted. McAdoo is the coach. They can't put his job on the line, and then undermine his authority.
I'm not sure how I feel about this, but I appreciate Eli's take on it. If they're going to start him each week, and then take him out of competitive games just to give Geno and Webb reps, then why bother starting him at all?
Start Gino against this struggling team... guarantee a loss. If you start Eli there is a possibility they might win, and drop down in the draft. Keep your eyes on the Prize. That is where we are now ..this is how low this team can go.. call it Macks revenge. He knows he is getting fired so he wants to show the front office that it was not his fault but bad (immobile) QB play. The Joke will be on him. They should start Webb to see what he can do in a real game and to properly prepare for the draft other than judge Webb in practice against his own squad that is not nearly the same as playing in a real game against a real opponent.
No chance McAdoofus made this decision on his own. Mara had to give his blessing. He wasn't going to make his jackass head coach embarrass the QB who won him 2 Super Bowls on his own. This isn't like sitting Eli Apple.
There’s no way in hell I’d have done this out of respect for Eli and what he’s done for this franchise... even though I think it’s the right move. I know I’ll get slammed for saying that... and I can take it... and not that I think this will happen... but what if Geno lights it up over the next several weeks?
Let me state again... I wouldn’t have done it... but I think it’s the right move. I know most don’t want to hear it but Eli wasn’t helping the team and in fact was part of the problem. And except for maybe TE there have been changes all throughout the offense... except at one position, QB.
I know it seems very far fetched to even fathom but what if either Smith or Webb come in and suddenly the offense clicks?
I’m still stunned by this and again feel the need to say there’s no chance in hell I’d have done it.
I have always enjoyed being a Giants fan because I felt that the franchise was classy insofar as they were generally decent and loyal.
This decision is indecent and disloyal and really makes me sad more than anything else.
I am going to try not to overreact, but I think it is a disgraceful decision to bench Eli for Geno Smith. It is an insult. Not saying Eli has been strong this year but given the offensive line and the weapons I'm not sure how anybody could have succeeded at QB.
But having an all time franchise guy benched for Geno Smith?
I can't see ownership approving it.
Reese.....yes.
Damn this organization, you sit your best player on offense???
FUCK THIS TEAM , FUCK THEM ALL!!!
Oh man............
I don't see the issue. Everyone wanted to see Webb eventually anyway. Starting Geno takes some pressure off of Webb.
As opposed to starting Eli and bringing in Webb late? I can understand wanting to see Webb, but what does Geno have to do with it? Start giving Webb more reps in practice, let him come in relief for Eli, ultimately let him start if he seems ready for that. Why does Geno factor into that at all?
McAdoo is an unbelievable piece of shit coward.
about Eli's streak?
Get F-ing serious.
Our team sucks, and that's the only thing I care about.
As for Eli's streak coming to an end?
Cry me a river.
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Geno starts to allow Webb to not freak out in his first start but to get comfortable before he comes in.
I don't see the issue. Everyone wanted to see Webb eventually anyway. Starting Geno takes some pressure off of Webb.
As opposed to starting Eli and bringing in Webb late? I can understand wanting to see Webb, but what does Geno have to do with it? Start giving Webb more reps in practice, let him come in relief for Eli, ultimately let him start if he seems ready for that. Why does Geno factor into that at all?
But Eli said he'd rather not start then come out.
A couple of classless fucks who've run this team into the ground and their looking to deflect blame.
At least I won't have to watch this week
Or it has more to do with evaluating if Geno actually is worthy of being a backup QB in the future.
That would be interesting....
It would impact 2018 evaluations, and thats what this is about.
We know Eli is not an ideal QB for this system. Geno need to be tested. Then Webb.
Management may want to get an extra 15M of cap space to fix the OL
I can't see ownership approving it.
Reese.....yes.
You obviously don’t know how the Giants operate. If you think Reese was allowed to ok this. This was okay by Mara
I've seen Bavaro get cut.
I've seen Simms get cut.
I've seen Coughlin get fired.
Who knows - maybe this isn't the end for Eli with the Giants but this is probably the saddest I've felt about someone related to the Giants. Not exactly sure why...
Maybe I viewed all the other players as past their prime. Maybe I still think of Eli as in his prime. I really thought that he still had magic in his right arm and this could've been Super Bowl #3. It sucks. He had another Super Bowl in him coming off XLVI - Reese just didn't surround him with the talent.
I wish you well going forward and I will always remember you, how you fought for the Giants and us fans, how you were always the embodiment of class and for making us proud to root for an organization with you at the helm.
Thank you, Eli.
If you make this move it's for Webb...Geno makes no sense.
I can't see ownership approving it.
Reese.....yes.
I doubt either Reese or ownership were even consulted. McAdoo is the coach. They can't put his job on the line, and then undermine his authority.
I'm not sure how I feel about this, but I appreciate Eli's take on it. If they're going to start him each week, and then take him out of competitive games just to give Geno and Webb reps, then why bother starting him at all?
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Reese, or ownership?
I can't see ownership approving it.
Reese.....yes.
You obviously don’t know how the Giants operate. If you think Reese was allowed to ok this. This was okay by Mara
Really? The same way when Phil Simms was cut? Or those other players mentioned above?
Wellington defaulted to Young in those cases.
I suspect his son did the same, for right or wrong.
Agreed, but McAdoo is still a douchebag and a trainwreck as a manager and head coach.
That's what I think happened.
Webb hasn't played yet. Would be tough to throw him right in. Let Geno stink up the place then Webb comes in w/ no pressure.
Have you see him play? He’s an embarrassment.
No chance McAdoofus made this decision on his own. Mara had to give his blessing. He wasn't going to make his jackass head coach embarrass the QB who won him 2 Super Bowls on his own. This isn't like sitting Eli Apple.
Let me state again... I wouldn’t have done it... but I think it’s the right move. I know most don’t want to hear it but Eli wasn’t helping the team and in fact was part of the problem. And except for maybe TE there have been changes all throughout the offense... except at one position, QB.
I know it seems very far fetched to even fathom but what if either Smith or Webb come in and suddenly the offense clicks?
I’m still stunned by this and again feel the need to say there’s no chance in hell I’d have done it.
No?
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Reese, or ownership?
I can't see ownership approving it.
Reese.....yes.
You obviously don’t know how the Giants operate. If you think Reese was allowed to ok this. This was okay by Mara
Yeah like you do.. Seriously some of the JR supporters are blind..
the coach he hires sucks.. they think its because Owners hired him.. as if the JR didn't support it and I can bet that he didn't oppose the hiring..
The whole off season JR keeps blaming Eli and supports our OL.. as if Eli is the problem and in his mind the OL is just fine..
Fuck JR.. He has ruined the last 6 years of Eli's career..
This decision is indecent and disloyal and really makes me sad more than anything else.
I am going to try not to overreact, but I think it is a disgraceful decision to bench Eli for Geno Smith. It is an insult. Not saying Eli has been strong this year but given the offensive line and the weapons I'm not sure how anybody could have succeeded at QB.
But having an all time franchise guy benched for Geno Smith?
Bad decision IMO.