Next season . The usual profile would be a team that was close to contending , or getting to the next level, that thought their quarterback play was holding them back. Joe Willie to the Rams. Montana to the Chiefs. Something like that. Who do you come up with? Reflexively you say the Jags. That might be true. Some of that is because Coach did become unduly sentimental during his last couple of seasons with the Giants. Not even considering the no-trade. That went out with the bath water, yesterday .
Answer is: Nobody. This tawdry episode is another facet to that idiot Mara firing Coughlin. What he never considered was how difficult the end game to Eli's career was going to be. Coughlin could have better managed it. McAdoo got on the wrong side of the draw down , starting with his "dirty pockets" observation. Again, what he said was entirely accurate . But he did not consider the ramifications of criticizing the quarterback while years remained on his contract.
My closest analogy is what happened to both Philadelphia and Washington when they cut bait with McNabb. The Eagles got off easy. They threw a beautiful appreciation party. Shanahan had a far more difficult time with it. But his 2-Super- Bowl- win resume gave him the chops to pull it off.
So the run down on the fuck ups: 1 Mara. Wrong time to fire Coughlin, if there was ever a good time. 2. McAdoo making like Belichick Part 2 , when he was really Belichick Part 1 (Kosar : diminished skills)
The State of Eli: all that remains is the Giants. 18 & 19 , with a diminished role , which my guess will be like Kurt Warner 04.
2. Arizona
3. Jets
4. Browns
5. Tampa Bay
6. Indianapolis (Luck is done)
7. Cincinnati
8. Miami
9. Buffalo
10. Minnesota
2. Arizona
3. Jets
4. Browns
5. Tampa Bay
6. Indianapolis (Luck is done)
7. Cincinnati
8. Miami
9. Buffalo
10. Minnesota
Broncos
So if McAdoo had a different QB he would be a winning coach? I find that a tough sell.
Jax
Denver
Arizona
NYJ
Cleveland
Buffalo
Baltimore
Not bad for a 37 year old.
There are also other places where it's not a slam dunk but very debatable.
Tampa Bay
Minnesota
Indy
Tampa wont give us on Winston yet. Ridiculous. They are not close to a championship. Arizona wont sign another older retread as they will look to go young. Nor would any team in rebuild like the Jets and Browns. They wont sign him and Eli does not want to play in those spots either. Maybe Denver as well.
Minnesota? Im playing Teddy next year and see a window for the next five years of being good.
Im not happy about the way it went down, but the hysteria shown by fans and the idea that Eli will somehow close out his career magically is pretty far fetched.
Denver
Arizona (he'd be great here)
Miami (if they don't think Tannyhill makes it back)
Jets
Buffalo
I don't think teams like Cleveland, who are in rebuild mode (over and over again) would want him.
Tenn
Jaxs
Indy (will luck ever be the same)
Miami
Buffalo
Jets
Ravens (close)
Browns
bears
vikings
Broncos
KC (Eli over Alex Smith , no comment on mahomes)
Tampa
49ers (Jimmy G has 1 start)
Arizona
About equal
Washington
Dallas
Chargers
Bottom line is for all the complaining, Eli even diminished is a middle of the road NFL QB
Eli isn't a fit there and they wouldn't even have a morsel of interest.
Tampa wont give us on Winston yet. Ridiculous. They are not close to a championship. Arizona wont sign another older retread as they will look to go young. Nor would any team in rebuild like the Jets and Browns. They wont sign him and Eli does not want to play in those spots either. Maybe Denver as well.
Minnesota? Im playing Teddy next year and see a window for the next five years of being good.
Im not happy about the way it went down, but the hysteria shown by fans and the idea that Eli will somehow close out his career magically is pretty far fetched.
I wouldn't be so sure about Winston in Tampa. Not saying they would necessarily be interested in Eli, but TB brass is pretty frustrated with Jameis right now. Terrible attitude, terrible work ethic, TO-prone.
I agree with you about Minny, they're either sticking with Keenum or going back to Bridgewater. I don't see them getting Eli. Also agree that CLE and NYJ will look to rebuild with a young QB.
I think Denver and Arizona are real possibilities though. Denver is a decent QB away from being a contender, and if Arians comes back, I don't think he is going to be very interested in sticking around for an AZ rebuild. Eli would fit in well there, especially with an Air Arians offense.
2. Arizona - maybe but they’re about to be in full blow up mode
3. Jets - Eli is the opposite of what Morton is trying to run and have in a QB
4. Browns - picking 1st and likely first again
5. Tampa Bay - Eli is not better for the future than Winston
6. Indianapolis (Luck is done) - see Arizona
7. Cincinnati - if they dump Dalton it’s a full rebuild
8. Miami - possibly
9. Buffalo - another potential cousins landing spot
10. Minnesota - they have Keenum and will see what bridgewater has
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Tampa wont give us on Winston yet. Ridiculous. They are not close to a championship. Arizona wont sign another older retread as they will look to go young. Nor would any team in rebuild like the Jets and Browns. They wont sign him and Eli does not want to play in those spots either. Maybe Denver as well.
Minnesota? Im playing Teddy next year and see a window for the next five years of being good.
Im not happy about the way it went down, but the hysteria shown by fans and the idea that Eli will somehow close out his career magically is pretty far fetched.
I wouldn't be so sure about Winston in Tampa. Not saying they would necessarily be interested in Eli, but TB brass is pretty frustrated with Jameis right now. Terrible attitude, terrible work ethic, TO-prone.
I agree with you about Minny, they're either sticking with Keenum or going back to Bridgewater. I don't see them getting Eli. Also agree that CLE and NYJ will look to rebuild with a young QB.
I think Denver and Arizona are real possibilities though. Denver is a decent QB away from being a contender, and if Arians comes back, I don't think he is going to be very interested in sticking around for an AZ rebuild. Eli would fit in well there, especially with an Air Arians offense.
Turnovers sure, but terrible work ethic is the furthest thing they’re worried about with Winston. He’s the first guy in and the last guy out and one of the hardest workers there
They have the defense and some young dynamic recivers
They are going with Keenum until he loses a game or two, which is going to happen eventually. He's also a FA after this year just like Bridgewater is. There is absolutely no way to tell who they offer a contract to, for how much, and whether its even the at the highest bid.
Bills
Jets
Browns
Bengals
Broncos
Colts
Texans
Jags
Cardinals
9ers
Vikings
In other words, half the leauge.
Arizona? Not sure they're going to be excited about replacing a 38 year old QB with a 37 year old QB.
Minnesota is winning games and Keenum is playing well. Teams like Tennessee and Tampa aren't going to flush their investment in young QBs to go with a guy playing his last few years. Buffalo...what's the point? And no one actually wants to play in Buffalo anyway. Miami's got the least amount of cap space in the league.
I suppose there could be a possible fit in Indy if Luck is truly in danger of having his career end, but that remains to be seen. Jacksonville or bust, I'm guessing.
Bills
Jets
Browns
Bengals
Broncos
Colts
Texans
Jags
Cardinals
9ers
Vikings
In other words, half the leauge.
Texans?
I guess you didn't see Deshaun Watson before he got hurt. They have absolutely no need for Eli Manning next season.
And Minnesota still doesn't make sense. I don't know why they continue to pop up on these lists.
The other thing no one seems to be considering is: Eli's expensive. I can't believe he's going to go to another team to play for cheap. He doesn't need the money, and he has too much pride.
Houston is kind of interesting if he wants to groom Watson, but why would he want that?
Buffalo would probably love to get him under center until the next guy is ready, but again, he's expensive.
The other thing no one seems to be considering is: Eli's expensive. I can't believe he's going to go to another team to play for cheap. He doesn't need the money, and he has too much pride.
Houston is kind of interesting if he wants to groom Watson, but why would he want that?
Buffalo would probably love to get him under center until the next guy is ready, but again, he's expensive.
The actual question is why would the Texans bench a guy who showed a ton of promise to be groomed by Eli?
What did I say that was so offensive to Eli? That it’s a risk signing a 37 year old QB? Because it is. Grow the fuck up.
Good insight about defense, clueless about offense
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Dolphins
Bills
Jets
Browns
Bengals
Broncos
Colts
Texans
Jags
Cardinals
9ers
Vikings
In other words, half the leauge.
Texans?
I guess you didn't see Deshaun Watson before he got hurt. They have absolutely no need for Eli Manning next season.
And Minnesota still doesn't make sense. I don't know why they continue to pop up on these lists.
He said tomorrow morning. Watson is currently on IR.
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Dolphins
Bills
Jets
Browns
Bengals
Broncos
Colts
Texans
Jags
Cardinals
9ers
Vikings
In other words, half the leauge.
Texans?
I guess you didn't see Deshaun Watson before he got hurt. They have absolutely no need for Eli Manning next season.
And Minnesota still doesn't make sense. I don't know why they continue to pop up on these lists.
He said tomorrow morning. Watson is currently on IR.
Well, the OP is about next season and Eli isn't playing for anyone else this year so there's really no point in discussing who he could play for "tomorrow morning" because he won't be anywhere but here.
MAny people in delusion here.
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Dolphins
Bills
Jets
Browns
Bengals
Broncos
Colts
Texans
Jags
Cardinals
9ers
Vikings
In other words, half the leauge.
Texans?
I guess you didn't see Deshaun Watson before he got hurt. They have absolutely no need for Eli Manning next season.
And Minnesota still doesn't make sense. I don't know why they continue to pop up on these lists.
He said tomorrow morning. Watson is currently on IR.
Well, the OP is about next season and Eli isn't playing for anyone else this year so there's really no point in discussing who he could play for "tomorrow morning" because he won't be anywhere but here.
But you chose to reply to the comment 'He can nake the following teams better by tmrw morning '.
You’re proving the cult comment right by getting all pissy about a small criticism of Eli that teams are going to be wary of the risk of signing a 37 year old QB and trying to go for it.
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Dolphins
Bills
Jets
Browns
Bengals
Broncos
Colts
Texans
Jags
Cardinals
9ers
Vikings
In other words, half the leauge.
Texans?
I guess you didn't see Deshaun Watson before he got hurt. They have absolutely no need for Eli Manning next season.
And Minnesota still doesn't make sense. I don't know why they continue to pop up on these lists.
He said tomorrow morning. Watson is currently on IR.
Well, the OP is about next season and Eli isn't playing for anyone else this year so there's really no point in discussing who he could play for "tomorrow morning" because he won't be anywhere but here.
But you chose to reply to the comment 'He can nake the following teams better by tmrw morning '.
That isn't the only comment on this thread that mentions HOU as a possible destination.
Are you interested in actually discussing the topic or would you rather argue semantics or tell me what I already know about Watson being on IR?
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Dolphins
Bills
Jets
Browns
Bengals
Broncos
Colts
Texans
Jags
Cardinals
9ers
Vikings
In other words, half the leauge.
Texans?
I guess you didn't see Deshaun Watson before he got hurt. They have absolutely no need for Eli Manning next season.
And Minnesota still doesn't make sense. I don't know why they continue to pop up on these lists.
He said tomorrow morning. Watson is currently on IR.
Well, the OP is about next season and Eli isn't playing for anyone else this year so there's really no point in discussing who he could play for "tomorrow morning" because he won't be anywhere but here.
But you chose to reply to the comment 'He can nake the following teams better by tmrw morning '.
That isn't the only comment on this thread that mentions HOU as a possible destination.
Are you interested in actually discussing the topic or would you rather argue semantics or tell me what I already know about Watson being on IR?
You reply to a list of teams that would be improved by tomorrow, and then say tomorrow doesn't matter we're talking about next year.
Jax - up and coming team with a good D and Coughlin in charge
Denver - I don't see it with their OL. But a dark horse.
NYJ - Playing well with McCown. You have to imagine they'd be better with Eli. Good, young WR, good running game. Same market. Maybe?
Buffalo - Are they really a QB away from contending like they seem to think? Would he really want to play in Buffalo?
Arizona - Maybe
Miami - It might make sense if they had cap space
KC - Maybe
Washington - If they don't franchise Cousins again, it's not a crazy idea. Plus, what better F-U to the Giants?
There aren't any other remotely realistic possibilities> Dallas was mentioned, but they aren't moving on from Prescott next year. Same in Minny, Tampa, or Tennessee. SF and Cleveland are rebuilding, so why would he be interested. Bears are terrible. Bengals offense improved since the OC change and Dalton is playing well. Who else is there?
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Dolphins
Bills
Jets
Browns
Bengals
Broncos
Colts
Texans
Jags
Cardinals
9ers
Vikings
In other words, half the leauge.
Texans?
I guess you didn't see Deshaun Watson before he got hurt. They have absolutely no need for Eli Manning next season.
And Minnesota still doesn't make sense. I don't know why they continue to pop up on these lists.
He said tomorrow morning. Watson is currently on IR.
Well, the OP is about next season and Eli isn't playing for anyone else this year so there's really no point in discussing who he could play for "tomorrow morning" because he won't be anywhere but here.
But you chose to reply to the comment 'He can nake the following teams better by tmrw morning '.
That isn't the only comment on this thread that mentions HOU as a possible destination.
Are you interested in actually discussing the topic or would you rather argue semantics or tell me what I already know about Watson being on IR?
You reply to a list of teams that would be improved by tomorrow, and then say tomorrow doesn't matter we're talking about next year.
Cool, so you've answered my question - you have no interest in actually discussing the topic, you'd rather nitpick.
Let me try and clear it up for ya...
The premise of the OP is next year. Those are actually the first two words in this thread.
I didn't take "tomorrow morning" to be a literal comment by that particular poster - it's a Wednesday. No one is playing football tomorrow besides WSH/DAL and everyone knows that if Eli is lining up under center in another uniform, it's happening next year; not this one.
There's a 0% possibility of Eli playing for another team in 2017. There would be no reason for anyone to actually suggest it.
So odd to see the thread policed on what should be discussed, that's all. I find it curious what teams would be improved immediately with Eli.
Since Eli playing for another team this year has no actual chance of occurring, I wouldn't tend to think anyone would be actually suggesting teams he could play for in 2017. There would be no point.
Ever think of a team like Dallas? They have Elliot back next season, a very aggressive owner and Prescott's limitations as a passer have been exposed. I could see Jerrah deciding to make a run next season. How about the Pats if Brady decides to hang them up at age 41 or New Orleans if Brees decides to hang them up at age 39? There will be a team or teams who lose their qb's in workouts or preseason so there will be openings that no one even knows about yet.
Joe Montana could probably still sling a football 60 yards - doesn't mean he can still play at a high level.
I think AZ, JAX, and maybe Denver.......they are the only legit teams that would want his service for a couple years.
I think JAX is perfect. This way, they could even draft a QB in round 2 and have Eli tutor him........because they guy they have there now, is not the answer.
Ever think of a team like Dallas? They have Elliot back next season, a very aggressive owner and Prescott's limitations as a passer have been exposed. I could see Jerrah deciding to make a run next season. How about the Pats if Brady decides to hang them up at age 41 or New Orleans if Brees decides to hang them up at age 39? There will be a team or teams who lose their qb's in workouts or preseason so there will be openings that no one even knows about yet.
He could play another 3-5 seasons but not many teams are going to take that financial risk on a 37 year old.
Dallas going after Eli? They’re not giving up on Prescott for Eli, QBs need to work through things and develop.
The Pats? Don’t you think if Brady was planning to retire they wouldn’t have traded Jimmy G?
The Saints? That offensive line isn’t much better than the Giants and that offense relies heavily on Brees ability to extend plays. Also Brees’ is having a great year why would he retire?
It's not even worth mentioning most of these teams. The odds are so small.
SF has Garopolo so no way, but I wouldn't rule out Cleveland. First of all, if Joe Thomas comes back (and I think they signed him to a contract extension) they have a better OL than most teams with a record like theirs. Better than the Giants if Thomas plays. Second, they could make a realistic trade offer for a 36 year old QB with their 2nd rd. pick, which is at the top of the round. Finally, with 2 high 1st rd. they can either trade down or draft 2 top position player prospects.
It's not even worth mentioning most of these teams. The odds are so small.
Do you think Eli will retire if he can't go to a 'good' spot?
I think the Jags/Broncos are enticing, but I can see the Bills. A rebuilding team isn't going to go after him.
And how many teams have faith Eli is going to be an above-average QB next year? He hasn't played good football in almost two years.
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I understand the football fit in the sense that they need a QB, but they don't have a line to protect him and Peyton's a legend there. He'd be back in his brother's shadow. Doesn't sound like something Eli would want.
The other thing no one seems to be considering is: Eli's expensive. I can't believe he's going to go to another team to play for cheap. He doesn't need the money, and he has too much pride.
Houston is kind of interesting if he wants to groom Watson, but why would he want that?
Buffalo would probably love to get him under center until the next guy is ready, but again, he's expensive.
The actual question is why would the Texans bench a guy who showed a ton of promise to be groomed by Eli?
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I understand the football fit in the sense that they need a QB, but they don't have a line to protect him and Peyton's a legend there. He'd be back in his brother's shadow. Doesn't sound like something Eli would want.
The other thing no one seems to be considering is: Eli's expensive. I can't believe he's going to go to another team to play for cheap. He doesn't need the money, and he has too much pride.
Houston is kind of interesting if he wants to groom Watson, but why would he want that?
Buffalo would probably love to get him under center until the next guy is ready, but again, he's expensive.
The actual question is why would the Texans bench a guy who showed a ton of promise to be groomed by Eli?
To be clear: Watson recovers, Eli tutors. When Watson's recovered, Watson plays, Eli tutors. Watson plays whenever he's physically ready. I wasn't thinking of benching him for Eli.
There’s no indication that Watson won’t be ready. Watson seemed to do fine without a tutor, so he doesn’t need Eli.
Lastly why would Eli go there to play three games and go to the bench? It’s not that much different than what just happened
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If it's not the Jaguars, I really don't think it'll be anywhere. There are probably 2-3 realistic situations and there would have to be mutual interest.
It's not even worth mentioning most of these teams. The odds are so small.
Do you think Eli will retire if he can't go to a 'good' spot?
I think the Jags/Broncos are enticing, but I can see the Bills. A rebuilding team isn't going to go after him.
And how many teams have faith Eli is going to be an above-average QB next year? He hasn't played good football in almost two years.
It's sad, but I think there's a good chance there just aren't many suitors. Jacksonville is the one spot that makes a lot of sense for obvious reasons - but people are mentioning teams like the Browns and I just can't see Eli ever going there. It's a rebuilding team that isn't ready to compete yet. It wouldn't make sense.
I read yesterday somewhere, and I'm not sure how true this was, but I read that the Giants brass basically felt everything needed to go right for Eli to succeed this year. I have a feeling that's how most evaluators will see him at this point.
Unless a team has all of the other pieces, pursuing Eli really wouldn't be a fit.
A team like Denver may not even make sense because they have a poor OL and Eli has no mobility at all.
I'm sure Eli still wants to play and will try to do so; but there's really only 2 scenarios where I see him starting games next year.
One would be if JAX showed real interest and were willing to make it happen and the other (very unlikely) scenario would be if we hire a new coach and that coach comes out and fully commits to Eli being our starter again next year.
If neither of those happen, I could definitely see Eli retiring. He may really just have no choice.
Maybe it's just Archie talking to hear himself talk, or maybe a new regime could convince him to return?
Release or trade would result in the same cap hit.
I assume Eli will want to paid by whatever new team people here have him going to. so you are talking about having to cough up some $$ to an aging QB who has not exactly distinguished himself in the last 4-5 years.
I think Jax makes the most sense in that it is clear their achilles heel is QB and you have the TC connection.
Maybe BUF, maybe DEN. Maybe KC if they think they can't get any more out of Smith.
I do not see any other team close enough to go with Eli, or willing to give up on their young QB who they are building with (Ten, TB, HOU, etc).
This is like Romo, perhaps... everyone saw him going to any # of teams and none of them panned out and he retired.
I honestly could see him coming back to NYG with a new GM and HC.
When Andy (or the front office) decides they want to move on from Smith, Patrick Mahomes is the guy.
but the WCO pointe is a very good one.
Maybe it's just Archie talking to hear himself talk, or maybe a new regime could convince him to return?
F-ck Archie. This is almost a the ideal bookend for the Eli Era. Archie stepped in for his spoiled son in 2004 and pitched a fit that Eli is too good for San Diego. So the Mannings drew a line in the sand and threatened to take their ball and go home...To this day, that irks me.
Archie knew SD was a shitshow, and what has it been since eli's been in the league? Exactly that.
Elway knew the Colts were poorly run. He played baseball for a year and he was exactly right.
The Browns are a shitshow and if players take a stand against them - it would be completely justified.
It would irk me if players made a move just to make a move and dick a team over - but that rarely is the case.
Maybe it's just Archie talking to hear himself talk, or maybe a new regime could convince him to return?
If this was an option, I don't think Mara would sign off on sitting Eli.
And the football side hasn't been that rosy. They last won the division in 2009, have gone through a handful of coaches, including a few unceremonious dumpings, and screwed over the fan base by moving the team to a city that doesn't give a shit about them.
And the football side hasn't been that rosy. They last won the division in 2009, have gone through a handful of coaches, including a few unceremonious dumpings, and screwed over the fan base by moving the team to a city that doesn't give a shit about them.
The irony is that with the exception of two seasons our results haven’t been much better.
There has been a vast difference in the way the two teams have been run.
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I'm not talking about their results. I'm talking about ownership and AJ Smith.
And the football side hasn't been that rosy. They last won the division in 2009, have gone through a handful of coaches, including a few unceremonious dumpings, and screwed over the fan base by moving the team to a city that doesn't give a shit about them.
The irony is that with the exception of two seasons our results haven’t been much better.
It comes down to the old question with the Giants. Would you rather have the 2 SBs and the other seasons essentially mediocre (2008 exception), or would you take SD results and essentially be"in the hunt" every year but never win the big one? I'll take the 2 SBs, that's the crown achievement of the NFL.
That's not even consistently being in the hunt.
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And the football side hasn't been that rosy. They last won the division in 2009, have gone through a handful of coaches, including a few unceremonious dumpings, and screwed over the fan base by moving the team to a city that doesn't give a shit about them.
The irony is that with the exception of two seasons our results haven’t been much better.
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I'm not talking about their results. I'm talking about ownership and AJ Smith.
And the football side hasn't been that rosy. They last won the division in 2009, have gone through a handful of coaches, including a few unceremonious dumpings, and screwed over the fan base by moving the team to a city that doesn't give a shit about them.
The irony is that with the exception of two seasons our results haven’t been much better.
It comes down to the old question with the Giants. Would you rather have the 2 SBs and the other seasons essentially mediocre (2008 exception), or would you take SD results and essentially be"in the hunt" every year but never win the big one? I'll take the 2 SBs, that's the crown achievement of the NFL.
Of course you take the Super Bowls. Its also ok to think that the Giants should have and could have won playoff games in other years. Both can be true
That's not even consistently being in the hunt.
They were an excellent team in Rivers first 5 years. I would not trade anything with them, though. They really screwed their fanbase with that ridiculous move. They're now an irrelevant team in an irrelevant NFL market (LA)
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I'm not talking about their results. I'm talking about ownership and AJ Smith.
And the football side hasn't been that rosy. They last won the division in 2009, have gone through a handful of coaches, including a few unceremonious dumpings, and screwed over the fan base by moving the team to a city that doesn't give a shit about them.
The irony is that with the exception of two seasons our results haven’t been much better.
It comes down to the old question with the Giants. Would you rather have the 2 SBs and the other seasons essentially mediocre (2008 exception), or would you take SD results and essentially be"in the hunt" every year but never win the big one? I'll take the 2 SBs, that's the crown achievement of the NFL.
Of course you take the Super Bowls. Its also ok to think that the Giants should have and could have won playoff games in other years. Both can be true
That's why this question is unique to the Giants. Very unusual situation to win 2 SBs in 5 years and be basically no-show for many of the other years. Can't really say that about any other SB winner.
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I'm not talking about their results. I'm talking about ownership and AJ Smith.
And the football side hasn't been that rosy. They last won the division in 2009, have gone through a handful of coaches, including a few unceremonious dumpings, and screwed over the fan base by moving the team to a city that doesn't give a shit about them.
The irony is that with the exception of two seasons our results haven’t been much better.
Stopping using 'irony'. You don't know what it means.
My exact thought. I just posted the NFL sack numbers on another thread. Eli is tied for 8th (26 sacks) with Russell Wilson and Cam Newton, and just ahead of Brady and Dak Prescott.
Newton, Wilson and Prescott are pretty mobile with decent lines. Just where can Eli go to get good protection?
Arizona? Not sure they're going to be excited about replacing a 38 year old QB with a 37 year old QB.
Minnesota is winning games and Keenum is playing well. Teams like Tennessee and Tampa aren't going to flush their investment in young QBs to go with a guy playing his last few years. Buffalo...what's the point? And no one actually wants to play in Buffalo anyway. Miami's got the least amount of cap space in the league.
I suppose there could be a possible fit in Indy if Luck is truly in danger of having his career end, but that remains to be seen. Jacksonville or bust, I'm guessing.
I agree for the most part, no one will pick up his present
contract with that 45 mill. cap hit the next two years!
He would have to re-structure his deal, not worth that much of a cap hit.
Denver could be a possibility, if they upgrade their O Line.
and maybe the Giants make him a post June 1st cut...
He has no guaranteed money left.
Well, if they don't wind up trading him (with that contract,
will be difficult), that might be the direction they go.
Of course it is speculation at this point, it does have some merit though.
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Denver? If he needs excellent protection to thrive at this point (and he does), he's not going to get it in Denver.
Arizona? Not sure they're going to be excited about replacing a 38 year old QB with a 37 year old QB.
Minnesota is winning games and Keenum is playing well. Teams like Tennessee and Tampa aren't going to flush their investment in young QBs to go with a guy playing his last few years. Buffalo...what's the point? And no one actually wants to play in Buffalo anyway. Miami's got the least amount of cap space in the league.
I suppose there could be a possible fit in Indy if Luck is truly in danger of having his career end, but that remains to be seen. Jacksonville or bust, I'm guessing.
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I agree for the most part, no one will pick up his present
contract with that 45 mill. cap hit the next two years!
He would have to re-structure his deal, not worth that much of a cap hit.
Denver could be a possibility, if they upgrade their O Line.
Eli's cap hit to a team who picks up his contract would only be 33 million at most. The other 12 million in cap hits is prorated bonus money the Giants would absorb.
2. Arizona
3. Jets
4. Browns
5. Tampa Bay
6. Indianapolis (Luck is done)
7. Cincinnati
8. Miami
9. Buffalo
10. Minnesota
I think the better way to say it is some of those teams MIGHT sign Eli. And by some I mean a few.