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Slade : 11/29/2017 5:14 pm
The directive from ownership was keep the streak going, but let's get some work in for the other two QBs over these last 5 games...

What McAdoo should have said: "Eli, season is down the tubes obviously, I just want to give you a heads up that over the last 5 games, we're going to look for some spots in the second half of games to take a look at Davis and Geno."

If you're down 20 at the half to Oakland, and Kalil Mack has 4 sacks... Do you think Eli is going to protest getting yanked for his own health under those circumstances?

McAdoo screwed this up, as he did everything else this year and presented it differently to Eli and now there is really no way to save face...

McAdoo likely gets the plug pulled before Dallas... They can't fire him midweek... And in spite of Mara and Eli talking this morning... Eli still declined to ceremonially take the ball on Sunday to preserve the streak... Eli is amazing... Doesn't care about the streak. Damage is done.
Mara isnít canning McAdoo next week  
The_Boss : 11/29/2017 5:18 pm : link
There are 5 games left. Whatís the point? So the 20k NYG fans there next Sunday donít boo him?
JFC  
Jay on the Island : 11/29/2017 5:18 pm : link
are you serious? Give up man.
Iím betting my house  
RottenApple : 11/29/2017 5:19 pm : link
On this one!
Waiting for blowouts  
ajr2456 : 11/29/2017 5:19 pm : link
Isn't an effective way to evaluate a QB for a number of reasons
You said McAdoo was going to get fired if he lost to SF  
Jay on the Island : 11/29/2017 5:20 pm : link
Now he is going to be fired before Dallas? um
Magic 8 ball?  
TC : 11/29/2017 5:26 pm : link
.
Please stop teasing us fans  
BBelle21 : 11/29/2017 5:30 pm : link
Most of us are extremely emotional right now. We want nothing more than to see McAdoo get the ax.
How's the creative writing class coming?  
Greg from LI : 11/29/2017 5:31 pm : link
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Based on Mara's press conference  
adamg : 11/29/2017 6:17 pm : link
this sounds like the Mara's interpretation of the events. Mac has half his fat ass out the door...

But you're still a fake asshat...
Dude  
ryanmkeane : 11/29/2017 6:51 pm : link
find another line of work
Man I hope youíre finally right  
aimrocky : 11/29/2017 6:55 pm : link
With this one
Let's not forget....  
Tesla : 11/29/2017 6:58 pm : link
amongst Slade's inside info. this year was the gem that McAdoo wanted to bench Eli and Mara told him to to go fuck himself, that he would never let him dishonor Eli like that.

Care to explain that one, Slade?
I don't know if you are real or fake, but I am all for McAdoo getting  
PatersonPlank : 11/29/2017 7:03 pm : link
fired next week. Then Reese at season end.
RE: Let's not forget....  
Slade : 11/29/2017 7:15 pm : link
In comment 13713207 Tesla said:
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amongst Slade's inside info. this year was the gem that McAdoo wanted to bench Eli and Mara told him to to go fuck himself, that he would never let him dishonor Eli like that.

Care to explain that one, Slade?


I stand by that...

You're seeing the aftermath right now...
The OP makes a lot of sense  
mfsd : 11/29/2017 7:20 pm : link
The idea of getting Webb some burn sounds reasonable, but the idea McAdoo fucked it up would explain both Eliís reaction and Maraís fumbled comments today.

In other words, Mara didnít expect it would be handled so poorly, thus he wasnít prepared to get ahead of it, as most of us think he should have.
He won the 'Should Slade be banned? vote?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2017 7:23 pm : link
What a shame.
RE: The OP makes a lot of sense  
PatersonPlank : 11/29/2017 7:24 pm : link
In comment 13713245 mfsd said:
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The idea of getting Webb some burn sounds reasonable, but the idea McAdoo fucked it up would explain both Eliís reaction and Maraís fumbled comments today.

In other words, Mara didnít expect it would be handled so poorly, thus he wasnít prepared to get ahead of it, as most of us think he should have.


If this is true then Mara must be really pissed off at Mac and Reese. In the end they didn't get what he wanted done, and ended up with the exact mess he didn't want. Mara also mentioned that he wasn't prepared for the backlash, or at least it was bigger than expected.
Slade  
joeinpa : 11/29/2017 8:15 pm : link
I don't know who you are. But I m one of your fans just for the pure entertainment value of your posts and the ire of your distractors

But it would be a good thing to have a higher % of being right :)
i read the Mara pressconference  
tony71 : 11/29/2017 8:19 pm : link
and the one little thing i notice is when Mara mentioned about getting the other QBs in there to Reese , Jerry told him him and Mcadoo been discussing this for a few weeks..
seems to me Mcadoo been bitching to Jerry and both are trying to save thier asses, and yet again, show Ben doesnt want Eli.
Donít know if the main part is true but I definitely agree  
mattnyg05 : 11/29/2017 8:20 pm : link
that they should have done it that way. It was so dumb in so many ways to handle it like this.
I wish I could find my prediction about this  
mattlawson : 11/29/2017 8:33 pm : link
If I remember correctly I was dead fucking on about eli being the main target of the Reese / macadoo fake feud
saying McAdoo has a chance to be fired after the Oakland game isnt  
jlukes : 11/29/2017 8:34 pm : link
inside information, it is fucking common sense.

So glad Eric wanted to keep this troll here!
Found it! From the subtle war of words article  
mattlawson : 11/29/2017 8:44 pm : link
If they are going tit for tat using the media
mattlawson : 11/4/2017 11:45 am : link
I have no problem with Jordan and others playing along and harping on it during the pressers. Itís simple syllogism. A = B = C

Good prep = Good practice = Wins.

Reese: bad prep, no wins
Mac: good prep, not translating to the field.

Hmm...

Are they arguing?

I initially would think Iíd have to side with Jerry on this one since heís the guy with access that sees both the product on the field and behind the scenes prep. And has for a long time. However his job is on the line so ... maybe he would blame the losses on lack of prep even if it werent true. So might that genius line actually be a dig? Doubt it but possible. Is Mac the target of frustration or is it the players Jerry is actually calling out?

I think itís actially the players.

Mac insists the prep and practices are good / great but things arenít just translating on Sundays for some reason. He has never thrown Jerry under the bus, he says they are on the same page about the players despite heavy criticism of the OL, run game, and QB play. If I recall correctly Eli is actually the only player Mac has called out as being ďsloppyĒ ó and has defended decisions related to personnel and play calls and duties thereof. He is extremely complimentary of opposing QBs each week during the preview sessions. He routinely notes the lack of sharpness by our offense, QB decisions, and his desire to run the ball more.

So:

Both these guys are either delusional about the state of this team (unlikely)

Are just covering their asses and using the media to dig each other (possible but out of character)

...or not telling the truth about what they believe plagues this team.

Time for speculation.

Jerry and Mac are truthfully on the same page and agree young players need to be supported even if partially at fault, but they are basically in silent agreement that leadership on both sides of the ball arenít leading this team to victory. Eli is done. while he has always put in the work he doesnít translate it anymore. The rest of the team isnít working as hard as they need to, they canít overcome deficiencies, and they are not executing on the field.

But I think it starts with Eli - and both Jerry and Mac are more likely in agreement than not that they need a young QB capable of avoiding the rush and making plays and keeping the team in games.

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Dottino on the FAN right now...  
Slade : 11/30/2017 11:41 am : link
basically saying everything I've been telling you.
Again, why the crying need to  
Section331 : 11/30/2017 11:47 am : link
evaluate Geno Smith? We know he sucks! That is my problem with this entire process, and yes, that includes John Mara. You want to pull Eli to play Webb? Great, completely support that. But you want to pull your 2-time SB MVP for Geno Fucking Smith? Why???
Just for the fact that he has been the #2 all year  
ron mexico : 11/30/2017 11:53 am : link
And to respect the pecking order. If he gets more snaps than Webb. By seasons end it will be a legitimate complaint
RE: Again, why the crying need to  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/30/2017 12:14 pm : link
In comment 13714444 Section331 said:
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evaluate Geno Smith? We know he sucks! That is my problem with this entire process, and yes, that includes John Mara. You want to pull Eli to play Webb? Great, completely support that. But you want to pull your 2-time SB MVP for Geno Fucking Smith? Why???

For all of those who want to put this entirely on McAdoo (despite the fact that Mara has already refuted that to some degree), here's some completely baseless speculation (appropriate on a Slade thread):

What if McAdoo has indeed been trying to bench Eli for weeks and has been saying that Eli is the reason why the offense is sputtering? Maybe Mara, in that scenario, finally relented and said "fine, get Geno on the field for some meaningful snaps in the 2nd half of a game or two and prove that Eli is the problem."

At a minimum, Mara would be giving McAdoo enough rope to hang himself while being fair to the coach without letting him bench Eli outright. Obviously, in my speculation scenario, McAdoo couldn't sell it to Eli directly with "hey Eli, I'm hoping to prove that you're the problem with the offense so we're going to get Geno onto the field in the second half" and there you have it.

Disclaimer: all of that is my own speculation, just like Slade's.
RE: Dottino on the FAN right now...  
Tesla : 11/30/2017 9:32 pm : link
In comment 13714402 Slade said:
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basically saying everything I've been telling you.


Got to give the devil his due....I think that's a very accurate statement. Nice work on this one Slade....if McAdoo is really canned after Oakland your credibility should be fully restored.
Tisch was going to make a "public apology" last night...  
Slade : 12/4/2017 1:23 pm : link
He also was the loudest voice to can Reese.. When Mara bought in that Reese needed to go too... They killed the Tisch mea culpa to Eli presser.
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