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How about Scot McCloughan as our next GM?

FranknWeezer : 11/30/2017 11:35 am
What are your thoughts on him as our next GM if Mara pulls the plug on Reese?

Certainly knows the NFCE. Well-respected around the league, except for Bruce Allen, who's got his own problems.
Players seemed to love him. Purportedly a fan of the bottle, though I don't believe people believe it affected his work.
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don't want any Redskins DNA creeping into the Giants  
Victor in CT : 11/30/2017 11:39 am : link
gene pool.
a fan of the bottle  
gmenatlarge : 11/30/2017 11:41 am : link
unless this is common knowledge or you know something personally that's a helluva thing to just throw out there...
RE: a fan of the bottle  
Greg from LI : 11/30/2017 11:42 am : link
In comment 13714395 gmenatlarge said:
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unless this is common knowledge or you know something personally that's a helluva thing to just throw out there...


Yes, it's common knowledge. It's the reason he was let go by both the 49ers and the Redskins.
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Victor in CT : 11/30/2017 11:43 am : link
In comment 13714408 Greg from LI said:
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unless this is common knowledge or you know something personally that's a helluva thing to just throw out there...



Yes, it's common knowledge. It's the reason he was let go by both the 49ers and the Redskins.


He could drink Mint Juleps with Chris Mara :-)
oh there's and endorsement!  
gtt350 : 11/30/2017 11:44 am : link
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He is a good talent evaluater.  
Section331 : 11/30/2017 11:44 am : link
I'd certainly give him a look, but there are red flags. If there is any truth to the rumors that came out of DC (and that is a big "if", considering what assholes Snyder and Allen are), no way.
RE: RE: a fan of the bottle  
FranknWeezer : 11/30/2017 11:45 am : link
In comment 13714408 Greg from LI said:
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unless this is common knowledge or you know something personally that's a helluva thing to just throw out there...



Yes, it's common knowledge. It's the reason he was let go by both the 49ers and the Redskins.


Correct. I did't say that flippantly. See link, for instance.
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Good talent evaluator  
Mike in NY : 11/30/2017 11:45 am : link
But the drinking is a red flag and I would not want him in charge of a department.

My GM list starts and ends with John Dorsey.
is this a once a week post?  
GiantsLaw : 11/30/2017 11:49 am : link
if so, I will keep posting Dave Gettleman should get consideration.
the hell with Dave Gettleman  
Greg from LI : 11/30/2017 11:50 am : link
Did nothing of note in Carolina and the Giants need a completely new regime, with no prior ties to the organization.
nothing of note?!  
GiantsLaw : 11/30/2017 11:59 am : link
I'd argue that for sure.
why Gettleman was fired - ( New Window )
RE: He is a good talent evaluater.  
bradshaw44 : 11/30/2017 12:14 pm : link
In comment 13714416 Section331 said:
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I'd certainly give him a look, but there are red flags. If there is any truth to the rumors that came out of DC (and that is a big "if", considering what assholes Snyder and Allen are), no way.


They werenít rumors it was 100% true. Iíve explained this ad naseum on this site.
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FranknWeezer : 11/30/2017 12:24 pm : link
In comment 13714542 bradshaw44 said:
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I'd certainly give him a look, but there are red flags. If there is any truth to the rumors that came out of DC (and that is a big "if", considering what assholes Snyder and Allen are), no way.


They werenít rumors it was 100% true. Iíve explained this ad naseum on this site.


So would he be off your list for the Giants?
RE: RE: He is a good talent evaluater.  
Section331 : 11/30/2017 12:25 pm : link
In comment 13714542 bradshaw44 said:
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They werenít rumors it was 100% true. Iíve explained this ad naseum on this site.


OK, thanks, must have missed your posts. In that case, no way.
Old or New-Owners Call  
nflscouting : 11/30/2017 1:13 pm : link
If they go old school, Pioli or even Polian are well thought of in Giants circles, but if they want a Tuna protege, Brian Gaine is certainly ready for GM duty. As for the next HC? DeFillipo (Phi) & Nagy (KC) are two coordinators that are going to be hot on the market. NE behind the door whispers have Bill think 2018 as a swan song, so their 2 coordinators are waiting for the shoe to drop, thus not being interested in Big Blue. Still, even with there record, Payton wants out of NO & has Big Blue roots. Will he want Tuna-like control though.
Go get Nick Caserio.  
Ryan in Albany : 11/30/2017 2:04 pm : link
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I always thought the "fan of the bottle" accusations were over played  
Gross Blau Oberst : 11/30/2017 2:14 pm : link
as part of the Redskin campaign to stain McCloughan as part of the ongoing internal feud in the Skins front office prior to his departure form the redskins.

that was a truly ugly series of event and he was certainly lambasted and had his character assassinated - or at least gravely wounded.

I have no idea what the truth is after that slander campaign by the skins against McCloughan.

He was thought to be loved and well respected until the skins turned on him.
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bradshaw44 : 11/30/2017 2:15 pm : link
In comment 13714579 FranknWeezer said:
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I'd certainly give him a look, but there are red flags. If there is any truth to the rumors that came out of DC (and that is a big "if", considering what assholes Snyder and Allen are), no way.


They werenít rumors it was 100% true. Iíve explained this ad naseum on this site.



So would he be off your list for the Giants?


From what I was told, no, but he does have his own scouting business/team that I wouldn't be opposed to them hiring to help with their board. But what I was told was frightening. He truly held up their entire off season program because he was drunk. Nobody could get answers on anything.
How about  
lugnut : 11/30/2017 2:15 pm : link
we've already had about 4 McGloughan as GM threads in 2 weeks?
I mean, yes, he would be off my list  
bradshaw44 : 11/30/2017 2:17 pm : link
for sure. Not , no. Not sure why i typed that.
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Ten Ton Hammer : 12/1/2017 1:48 am : link
In comment 13714878 Gross Blau Oberst said:
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He was thought to be loved and well respected until the skins turned on him.


He was also removed from two previous NFL front office positions specifically because of his issues with alcohol. Not rumor. Documented and sourced fact.
RE: Old or New-Owners Call  
Pete in MD : 12/1/2017 9:14 am : link
In comment 13714712 nflscouting said:
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If they go old school, Pioli or even Polian are well thought of in Giants circles, but if they want a Tuna protege, Brian Gaine is certainly ready for GM duty. As for the next HC? DeFillipo (Phi) & Nagy (KC) are two coordinators that are going to be hot on the market. NE behind the door whispers have Bill think 2018 as a swan song, so their 2 coordinators are waiting for the shoe to drop, thus not being interested in Big Blue. Still, even with there record, Payton wants out of NO & has Big Blue roots. Will he want Tuna-like control though.


These are some interesting names. Gaine is a local guy (from Rockland County) and DeFillipo is a former Giants coach (QC 2005-06), which we all know they love, but it would be a big jump from QB coach to head coach. Maybe a defensive HC (Mike Smith?) with DeFillipo as OC? Pioli wouldn't shock me at all either. Polian might be a little long in the tooth.
RE: Go get Nick Caserio.  
Pete in MD : 12/1/2017 9:18 am : link
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Jason LaCanfora reported that Casserio and McDaniels were close to going to the 49ers last year as a package deal. NYG could do a lot worse than those two.
Just say NO to Pioli and McDaniels  
Greg from LI : 12/1/2017 9:44 am : link
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Every time I hear...  
bw in dc : 12/1/2017 9:49 am : link
Mike Lombardi on radio or TV Iím fairly impressed with his knowledge about all aspects of the NFL - play calling, cap, personnel, etc...

Iíd at least give him a call...
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