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FROM DAVE TE-MY GOTTA HAVE GUYS

nflscouting : 11/30/2017 7:56 pm
After being on the road since August, I am looking forward to getting to the office & compiling my note next week. As far as draft talent, I am not saying this is going to be the first guy taken at the spot, but the ONE guy at each spot that I gotta have if I was drafting;
QB-Unless a Trojan enters the draft, I stay away from this motley crew. Why, because I wait until 2019 for Darnold or Mississippi State's Nick Fitzgerald, two guys I'd mortgage the ranch for.

WR-Jester Weah-Pitt and Cam Phillips-Virginia Tech...I like unearthing WR talent during day 3. Weah has the best hands in this draft class, but Pitt QBs only started & ended the same game twice & ranked 109th in passing. Yet, he still caught 41 balls, stands 6:04 & has a career 20.32-yard average
Phillips does it all, sort of like Wes Welker met Julian Endelman-reverses, deep threat (best 10-yard explosion in this class - 1.47), holds the school reception, yardage & TD records & is third in receptions among active WRs. Oh, he also handles returns.

TE-Adam Braverman-UMass...He comes with an expiration label, as he actually retired due to bad knee surgery at Penn State prior to 2015 & then served as campaign manager in the PA senate race. 150 receptions the last 2 years & outside of Stanford's Schultz, he's the best blocking TE in this draft.

OC-Austin Corbett-Nevada-Think Jeff Hartings here-has the top grade of any left OT this year, but at 6:03 & short arms, he has that trap blocking skills I like & quick hands which he uses as a deep snapper, thus I predict his move inside

OG-Cody O'Connell-Washington State & Tyrell Crosby-Oregon... Hey, a 6:09, 374 left OG with the best pass protection #s for any OL guy in college the last 2 years? I'd go Day 3 on him, but Day 2 on Crosby, another left tackle I'd convert to guard. Kid benches 550.

OT-Brian O'Neal-Pittsburgh & Connor Williams-Texas...Williams should be okay by the start of next season & if he did not have that knee issue, he could have been a top 5 guy. O'Neal is the best athlete at OT I've seen in a while. He was a TE until 2016, started at ROT last year & LOT this year, but still caught 3 TDs the last 2 seasons.

TOMORROW-My defensive faves (remember, not the top dude, but guys that have really impressed)

MY TAKE ON THE BEST GUY AT EACH
QB-Darnold or nobody
WR-James Washington-Oklahoma State
Deontay Burnett-USC
TE-Mark Andrews-Oklahoma
TB-Saquon Barkley-Penn State
Bryce Love-Stanford
FB-Khalid Hill-Michigan
H-Back-Dalton Schultz-Stanford
OC-Frank Ragnow-Arkansas
OT-Connor Williams
OG-Will Hernandez-UTEP
Awesome stuff Dave Te  
adamg : 11/30/2017 7:59 pm : link
Thanks brother
Really nice for a lot of fans to chew on  
idiotsavant : 11/30/2017 8:06 pm : link
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Love to hear your thoughts  
KWALL2 : 11/30/2017 8:24 pm : link
On Turay from Rutgers. Athletic kid. Player big in some games.
Thanks  
nflscouting : 11/30/2017 8:26 pm : link
I enjoy being back out on the road again, but I've been away so long that Willie Nelson is trying to catch up & James Brown told me to not work so hard!
Thanks Dave  
Matt in SGS : 11/30/2017 8:37 pm : link
I thought going into the college season this year you felt this would be a QB class to rival 1983 and said teams should pass on QBs last year and wait for this year. Now you are saying Darnold or bust. What happened?
Thanks Dave!  
Vin_Cuccs : 11/30/2017 8:47 pm : link
I'm very curious to get your thoughts on these QB's.

Specifically, why only Darnold or nobody, are you discouraged by his progress this year, and how the QB's stack up against Webb.

Also, I'd love to know your thoughts on Rosen, Allen, Mayfield, and Jackson.
Hi Dave  
Rjanyg : 11/30/2017 8:50 pm : link
You don't have Nelson from ND as your too OG?
Thanks Dave!  
mrvax : 11/30/2017 8:56 pm : link
Please send a copy to Reese and his predecessor.
good stuff Dave  
Victor in CT : 12/1/2017 8:13 am : link
Thanks
Still feels like a weak year to pick  
JonC : 12/1/2017 8:33 am : link
where we figure to pick ...
TE from UMass  
LS : 12/1/2017 8:34 am : link
is actually Breneman.
Huzzah!!!  
uncledave : 12/1/2017 8:37 am : link
The great one returns
Breneman had knee surgery in high school  
LS : 12/1/2017 8:39 am : link
and another at Penn State. The knee took a long time to heal after the second surgery. Doctors thought he was pushing the rehab too hard.
QB CLASS & OG SELECTION  
nflscouting : 12/1/2017 11:41 am : link
QB Class-I was high on this clas mostly because of Darnold & Fitzgerald, but I keep getting the feeling both are staying in school. Rosen is a Manziel cancer & I was never high on him. I thought Allen would develop, but he has that Blake Bortles slow to process progression reads issues. Tanner Lee has the best arm, but like Falk, simply destroys their evaluations with their penchant for INTS. Unless a team puts in the spread, where can Jackson fit. Finley? More one year wonder & should stay in school, especially since he has a good QB mentor in his HC

OG-Nelson was thisclose to being the #1 guy, but if you email me at scoutingservices@aol.com, I will send you my OG production chart to show why I think Hernandez is the better prospect. No, Nelson will go first but I'm not a draft guy, I scout, so I envision their pro carerr, not who gets to the podium first
RE: TE from UMass  
nflscouting : 12/1/2017 11:42 am : link
In comment 13715849 LS said:
Quote:
is actually Breneman.

SORRY-typo-I was on a show earlier with a DJ named Braverman - brain fart there
If NYG covets Darnold..  
Sean : 12/1/2017 11:43 am : link
I’d be stunned if he doesn’t come out. Feelers will be put out & from Darnold’s standpoint he likely would not get a better situation next year.
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