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Is Geno Smith the 1st black quarterback to start for NYG?

CMicks3110 : 11/30/2017 10:35 pm
I can't think of another quarterback to start a game for the Giants that was black.
I believe so - there was another BBI thread on this  
Del Shofner : 11/30/2017 10:38 pm : link
a couple of days ago.
YESS  
Rjanyg : 11/30/2017 10:38 pm : link
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Yes. And while it's an interesting historical footnote  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/30/2017 10:41 pm : link
It's not as if the Giants were dragged kicking and screaming into racial integration like the old time Red Sox.
This has nothing to do with black or white  
Glover : 11/30/2017 11:36 pm : link
Geno Smith is starting because the Giants are 2-9, and even then, because they for what ever reason need to honor their depth chart and respect him enough to let him play before they put Webb in, the guy who they really want to know about.

So, black and white doesnt matter, keep that in mind when I say this.
The Giants need to fire their black GM and hire a black head coach, David Shaw.
RE: This has nothing to do with black or white  
81_Great_Dane : 12/1/2017 12:30 am : link
In comment 13715661 Glover said:
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Geno Smith is starting because the Giants are 2-9, and even then, because they for what ever reason need to honor their depth chart and respect him enough to let him play before they put Webb in, the guy who they really want to know about.

So, black and white doesnt matter, keep that in mind when I say this.
The Giants need to fire their black GM and hire a black head coach, David Shaw.


It's technically a milestone, and other different circumstances it would be a big deal (for a minute). But because of the peculiar circumstances it's not.

The Giants didn't choose Geno to be the starting QB, exactly. He didn't even inherit the job because of injury. It fell to him because of an organizational fuckup. But yes, he's black, he's a QB, he's going to start on Sunday, so we can check that box: The Giants will have had a black starting QB. That hasn't happened before, soon it will have happened.

The fact the Giants have never had a black QB start before would probably have been discussed more if not for the fact the Giants have had exactly one starting QB for 13 years.
Pretty common knowledge.  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/1/2017 12:32 am : link
It's too bad that this is going to be remembered as an awful time in Giants history though, due to the Eli/McAdoo/Mara stuff. Also, Webb very well may be starting the very next week.
yes exactly  
giantfan2000 : 12/1/2017 1:08 am : link
Geno Smith the 1st African American quarterback to start for NYG

and the NYG are the last team in the NFL to start an African American QB

It's worse  
Josh in MD : 12/1/2017 1:29 am : link
They have also never started a Latino, an East Asian, a Jew, a Sikh or an Inuit. What a disgrace. Wait til Colin Kaepernick gets word of this.
RE: It's worse  
Route 9 : 12/1/2017 2:55 am : link
In comment 13715692 Josh in MD said:
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They have also never started a Latino, an East Asian, a Jew, a Sikh or an Inuit. What a disgrace. Wait til Colin Kaepernick gets word of this.


You left out those Canadian Jehovah's Witnesses as well. I fit in that category because I chose to spend my time on BBI during the sacred holiday of Thanksgiving.

We're not gonna take it, anymore!
RE: Yes. And while it's an interesting historical footnote  
FStubbs : 12/1/2017 6:49 am : link
In comment 13715614 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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It's not as if the Giants were dragged kicking and screaming into racial integration like the old time Red Sox.


Or the Redskins - that one took the Supreme Court itself.
RE: It's worse  
well...bye TC : 12/1/2017 6:50 am : link
In comment 13715692 Josh in MD said:
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They have also never started a Latino, an East Asian, a Jew, a Sikh or an Inuit. What a disgrace. Wait til Colin Kaepernick gets word of this.

Josh Rosen to the rescue! Shalom!
When will we get an Hispanic quarterback?  
Beezer : 12/1/2017 6:56 am : link
I want a Latino back there!!!
I actually wouldn't be surprised if that played into the calculus  
Bill L : 12/1/2017 7:23 am : link
When you think about it, there is absolutely no real rationale for going from Eli to Smith to Webb as opposed to going from Eli to Webb. What do they really gain by starting Geno? If Webb needed another week (and if it was purely preparation he would be getting #2 snaps for Oakland's practices), they could have moved Eli out next week. I see it as very possible that they worried that if they went from white Qb to white QB and skipped over Geno, regardless of the legitimate talent/future rationales, someone would criticize them for still being the only franchise to not start a black QB and insinuate that Geno was passed over specifically because he is black.
RE: This has nothing to do with black or white  
gmenatlarge : 12/1/2017 8:38 am : link
In comment 13715661 Glover said:
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Geno Smith is starting because the Giants are 2-9, and even then, because they for what ever reason need to honor their depth chart and respect him enough to let him play before they put Webb in, the guy who they really want to know about.

So, black and white doesnt matter, keep that in mind when I say this.
The Giants need to fire their black GM and hire a black head coach, David Shaw.


Well said, and yes this GM needs to go. The fact that he was retained as Coughlin and Gilbride were shown the door is galling because he is the architect behind this horrendous O-line which has cost Eli his job. Also David Shaw looks like he has good potential as an NFL HC.

On a different note keeping Reese on was very reminiscent of the NY Mets firing Bobby V. while keeping Philips on, we all know how well that worked out...
RE: It's worse  
prh : 12/1/2017 8:44 am : link
In comment 13715692 Josh in MD said:
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They have also never started a Latino, an East Asian, a Jew, a Sikh or an Inuit. What a disgrace. Wait til Colin Kaepernick gets word of this.

Minor correction Benny Friedman was a Jewish and a starting QB in the 30's for the Giants.
so when Webb replaces Geno the Giants will be bigots  
gtt350 : 12/1/2017 9:01 am : link
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My worry is......  
njm : 12/1/2017 9:50 am : link
after witnessing a week of Geno starting at QB, will the Giants ever start another black QB?
Benny Friedman  
Paulie Walnuts : 12/1/2017 11:15 am : link
was a jew and played QB for the Giants
pretty good one too  
Paulie Walnuts : 12/1/2017 11:16 am : link
New York Giants
Friedman with the Giants 1929

In July 1929, Friedman signed with the New York Giants.[50] In his first year in New York, Friedman appeared in all 15 games and led the 1929 Giants to a 13𢴏 record, second best in the NFL. The Giants also had the top scoring offense in the league with an average of 20.8 points per game.[51] Friedman led the NFL with 985 passing yards,[6] and his 20 touchdown passes set an NFL single season record that stood until 1942.[52] After the final game of the 1929 season, one sports writer noted: "The uncanny field generalship of Friedman, combined with his bullet passes, was a big factor in the Giants' thirteenth and last victory of the season."[53]

In 1930, Friedman had another strong season, appearing in 15 games for the Giants and helping the team to a 134 record. The Giants again finished in second place in the NFL and had the top scoring offense in the league with 18.1 points scored per game.[54] Friedman led the NFL with 922 passing yards and 10 touchdown passes in 1930.[6] For the fourth consecutive season, Friedman was selected as a first-team All-NFL player.[1]

Friedman's passing proficiency was especially noteworthy considering that the football used at the time was rounder and more difficult to throw.[55] Friedman called plays at the line of scrimmage and threw on first and second down, when most teams waited until third down.[56] "Benny revolutionized football. He forced the defenses out of the dark ages." George Halas later said.[57]

In February 1931, Friedman announced that he intended to retire from professional football.[58] He was hired as an assistant coach for the Yale Bulldogs football team.[59] On October 26, 1931, Friedman signed a contract to return to the Giants for the remainder of the season. Since the Giants' practices were held in the morning, Friedman indicated that his duties with the Giants would not conflict with his coaching duties at Yale.[60] Friedman appeared in nine games for the 1931 Giants.[1]
Allie Sherman played qb for Giants  
Marty in Albany : 12/1/2017 2:06 pm : link
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RE: Allie Sherman played qb for Giants  
Mad Mike : 12/1/2017 2:19 pm : link
In comment 13716691 Marty in Albany said:
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No he didn't, his entire playing career was in Philly.
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