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Leach to Tennesee?

ajr2456 : 11/30/2017 11:47 pm
Looks like Tennesee is in the process of negotiating a deal with Leach.

Plane leaving early in the AM from Tallahassee to A& M with FSU staff to negotiate Jimbos buyout
After all the idiocy...  
bw in dc : 12/1/2017 12:13 am : link
and incompetency, getting Leach would be hell of consolation prize...
Mr. Coach Klien  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/1/2017 6:11 am : link
Has turned down Tennessee. He will get a raise and stay with the Muddogs.

Vonta Leach  
TommytheElephant : 12/1/2017 7:10 am : link
?
That would be fantastic for  
barens : 12/1/2017 8:24 am : link
Tennessee. He took a couple of bottom dwellers in Texas Tech and Washington State, and made them relevant. Wonder what he can do with a team that actually recruits well.
I'm surprised  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/1/2017 8:52 am : link
they aren't upset about his previous violations that got him kicked out of Texas Tech or that he isn't high profile enough.
oh and watch the plan flight thing  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/1/2017 8:53 am : link
more times then not its completely inaccurate. Though it seems this one has some steam to it.
From Brett Mcmurphy  
ajr2456 : 12/1/2017 10:20 am : link
Sources: John Currie was prepared to hire Mike Leach but university officials wouldn’t allow him to do so. Phillip Fulmer has been sabotaging search process in hopes to become Tennessee’s AD

What a shit show
...  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/1/2017 10:25 am : link
this whole thing is a living reinforcement of Robert Conquest's third  
Greg from LI : 12/1/2017 10:31 am : link
law of politics: "The behavior of any bureaucratic organization can best be understood by assuming that it is controlled by a secret cabal of its enemies."
elsewhere in SEC follies  
Greg from LI : 12/1/2017 10:59 am : link
Ole Miss received a two year bowl ban and multiple schollies lost from the NCAA today.
Seriously, how nuts is this?  
Greg from LI : 12/1/2017 11:06 am : link
Braden GallþVerified account @BradenGall

.@Brett_McMurphy just told us that people inside the Tennessee program were calling coaches who Currie was trying to hire and tell them not to come and that it is toxic.
RE: From Brett Mcmurphy  
bw in dc : 12/1/2017 11:07 am : link
In comment 13716099 ajr2456 said:
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Sources: John Currie was prepared to hire Mike Leach but university officials wouldn’t allow him to do so. Phillip Fulmer has been sabotaging search process in hopes to become Tennessee’s AD

What a shit show


Unf-ckin believable. UT is resembling the Trump White House...
Meanwhile in Tallahassee  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/1/2017 11:38 am : link
Players threatening to leave if Jimbo STAYS at FSU.


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BTW, I have read that, if Taggart chooses staying in Oregon  
Greg from LI : 12/1/2017 12:08 pm : link
over taking the FSU job, the Noles' fallback preference is......Justin Fuente
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Banks : 12/1/2017 12:16 pm : link
I would hope Leach would stay at WSU. He's done a good job turning them around and I'm not sure why he would want to join a shit show like Tennessee. As for the Adam James incident that got him fired from TT, Leach proved to be in the right on that. They should pay him what he's owed.
Oh, don't misunderstand me  
Greg from LI : 12/1/2017 12:22 pm : link
I'm a big Mike Leach fan. I knew it would never happen but I was really hoping the Hoos would have canned Mike London a few years earlier than they did to hire him when he was still available.

Washington State is a tough job though. Pullman is the middle of nowhere. WSU will always be second to fiddle in-state to UW. The Pacific Northwest isn't exactly a hotbed of football talent. Outside of Mike Price's last few years, that program has never been a consistent winner. Even given the dysfunction in Knoxville, I'd have to think an SEC program would be attractive to him.
RE: BTW, I have read that, if Taggart chooses staying in Oregon  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/1/2017 1:33 pm : link
In comment 13716431 Greg from LI said:
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over taking the FSU job, the Noles' fallback preference is......Justin Fuente


I have read this too, but people have just thrown his name out for just every high profile job at this point.
In other SEC news  
dpinzow : 12/1/2017 1:34 pm : link
Jimbo goes to Texas A&M. Mark Richt at the U now has free reign to rule Florida with the Gators and now Seminoles looking for new coaches
The Gators with a new coach (Mullen)  
dpinzow : 12/1/2017 1:35 pm : link
and Florida State now in the coaching market. Richt is in an enormously powerful position now in Coral Gables (only stable program)
RE: RE: BTW, I have read that, if Taggart chooses staying in Oregon  
Greg from LI : 12/1/2017 1:36 pm : link
In comment 13716606 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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I have read this too, but people have just thrown his name out for just every high profile job at this point.


Honestly, I don't think it matters all that much. Fuente gets a lot of love, but that program still lives and dies by Pud's defense, just as it always has, and he's never leaving.
Pullman to Knoxville is a major upgrade for Leach.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/1/2017 1:38 pm : link
I'd be stunned if he didn't take it, if offered.

I still don't get the Jimbo to A&M thing, but whatever.

I hope Taggart goes to FSU and is extremely successful.

Is Frost to Nebraska a done deal like I read or can Oregon pop in at the last second?
RE: RE: RE: BTW, I have read that, if Taggart chooses staying in Oregon  
dpinzow : 12/1/2017 1:39 pm : link
In comment 13716619 Greg from LI said:
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I have read this too, but people have just thrown his name out for just every high profile job at this point.



Honestly, I don't think it matters all that much. Fuente gets a lot of love, but that program still lives and dies by Pud's defense, just as it always has, and he's never leaving.


Actually it does...because Virginia Tech will officially be a way station for coaches to go to bigger jobs
RE: Pullman to Knoxville is a major upgrade for Leach.  
dpinzow : 12/1/2017 1:42 pm : link
In comment 13716624 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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I'd be stunned if he didn't take it, if offered.

I still don't get the Jimbo to A&M thing, but whatever.

I hope Taggart goes to FSU and is extremely successful.

Is Frost to Nebraska a done deal like I read or can Oregon pop in at the last second?


One by one here:

Tennessee is radioactive right now, not sure that it's an upgrade. Leach will get dismantled in the SEC. He can work in relative anonymity in Pullman, Washington and be a consistent contender.

Jimbo to A&M: Just play the million dollar man's WWE titantron...money money money money money

The bottom line with Florida and now FSU instability is the U now rules the roost in Florida

Frost's family still lives in Lincoln. Make of that what you will
I always thought Mike Leach looked like one of the  
TommytheElephant : 12/1/2017 1:44 pm : link
2 old guys up in the balcony from the muppets
RE: RE: RE: BTW, I have read that, if Taggart chooses staying in Oregon  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/1/2017 1:44 pm : link
In comment 13716619 Greg from LI said:
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I have read this too, but people have just thrown his name out for just every high profile job at this point.



Honestly, I don't think it matters all that much. Fuente gets a lot of love, but that program still lives and dies by Pud's defense, just as it always has, and he's never leaving.


If Fuente leaves, which I don't think will happen, I could see Bud becoming head coach, and him being able to retain someone that can run Fuente's offense. Bud showed how dedicated he is to the school when Beamer left and he stayed on as D-Coordinator.
Like someone else said, Washington State is still Washington St.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/1/2017 1:47 pm : link
Sure, there will be no loyalty and little patience in Tennessee, but he'll be amongst the big boys and be pocketing a hefty check. If it doesn't work out, he can always turn some other situation into another Washington State. As crappy as UT is right now, I don't see this as Rich Rodriguez leaving the comfort and safety of West Virginia.
RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW, I have read that, if Taggart chooses staying in Oregon  
dpinzow : 12/1/2017 1:48 pm : link
In comment 13716638 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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I have read this too, but people have just thrown his name out for just every high profile job at this point.



Honestly, I don't think it matters all that much. Fuente gets a lot of love, but that program still lives and dies by Pud's defense, just as it always has, and he's never leaving.



If Fuente leaves, which I don't think will happen, I could see Bud becoming head coach, and him being able to retain someone that can run Fuente's offense. Bud showed how dedicated he is to the school when Beamer left and he stayed on as D-Coordinator.


That's what VT should do because they can't be seen as a pit stop for coaches with bigger ambitions. Beamer being there practically forever covered up the aspect of Blacksburg, VA being a remote wilderness compared to places like Miami, Tallahassee, Columbus OH, Los Angeles, etc.
I think what a lot of people don't understand is that the  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/1/2017 1:50 pm : link
Haslams and their Pilot oil $$$$ run the school. The top university admin are beholden to that money. They had Currie hired as AD because he would be a puppet. All they want is control. The AD the fans wanted after Dave Hart was Blackburn because he would have told the Haslams to get bent.

They had Dooley hired over Gary Patterson because they could control him. He was an up and comer.

Schiano was their guy because he is unproven and had the Penn State stuff attached so they could control him. They never talked to Gruden.

Leach was too much of a wildcard so they torpedoed that hire and Jeff Brohm before that. Leach had an MOU as well before the Haslams stepped in.

The list of HoF coaches that UT has had to pass up because the Haslams couldn't control them is very long.
Didn't Bud *want* to leave a while back, though?  
Greg from LI : 12/1/2017 2:03 pm : link
I've heard before that he would have take the UVA job had it been offered to him after Groh was fired but we weren't interested. Moreover, it's a bit strange that he's never really been even talked about all that much as a head coaching candidate, even after Beamer retired. The story I've always been told by Hokie fans is that Bud wasn't considered HC material by Tech or anyone else. The reasons for they've given are varied - obviously I don't know which is closest to the truth because I don't have a pipeline from Blacksburg.

-He hates boosters and would be terrible on the fundraising banquet circuit

-He likes to party too much

-Related to that, he likes to party with college girls

-He's got no social skills and wouldn't be able to effectively deal with the administration

And other things along those lines.
RE: Didn't Bud *want* to leave a while back, though?  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/1/2017 2:14 pm : link
In comment 13716688 Greg from LI said:
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I've heard before that he would have take the UVA job had it been offered to him after Groh was fired but we weren't interested. Moreover, it's a bit strange that he's never really been even talked about all that much as a head coaching candidate, even after Beamer retired. The story I've always been told by Hokie fans is that Bud wasn't considered HC material by Tech or anyone else. The reasons for they've given are varied - obviously I don't know which is closest to the truth because I don't have a pipeline from Blacksburg.

-He hates boosters and would be terrible on the fundraising banquet circuit

-He likes to party too much

-Related to that, he likes to party with college girls

-He's got no social skills and wouldn't be able to effectively deal with the administration

And other things along those lines.


Bud can only become a Head Coach at Tech at this point. His time to leave and become a Head Coach elsewhere has passed. He's on the older side, and I have heard many of things you just mentioned. I'd take him. Having worked under him for 4 years myself, he is a great motivator and people love playing for him. The coaching part wouldn't be a problem, I think the booster side could be an issue.

When Fuente left Memphis for VT  
BobR in Durham : 12/1/2017 2:15 pm : link
He stated in a number of interviews that he and his wife had checked out Blacksburg before his last season in Memphis and really wanted that job because they both wanted to live in a place with a small town feel and raise their kids in that environment.
Not sure he will find some of the other jobs/locales being mentioned here as desirable as some think.
RE: When Fuente left Memphis for VT  
Greg from LI : 12/1/2017 2:20 pm : link
In comment 13716716 BobR in Durham said:
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He stated in a number of interviews that he and his wife had checked out Blacksburg before his last season in Memphis and really wanted that job because they both wanted to live in a place with a small town feel and raise their kids in that environment.
Not sure he will find some of the other jobs/locales being mentioned here as desirable as some think.


Tallahassee ain't exactly Manhattan. Yes, it's a much bigger city than Blacksburg, but you don't have to go very far out of town to live in a really rural environment.
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BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/1/2017 2:27 pm : link
In comment 13716732 Greg from LI said:
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He stated in a number of interviews that he and his wife had checked out Blacksburg before his last season in Memphis and really wanted that job because they both wanted to live in a place with a small town feel and raise their kids in that environment.
Not sure he will find some of the other jobs/locales being mentioned here as desirable as some think.



Tallahassee ain't exactly Manhattan. Yes, it's a much bigger city than Blacksburg, but you don't have to go very far out of town to live in a really rural environment.


Right now VT has a better situation going on. FSU surely would recruit better classes, just by name, but the reason Jimbo left is because they are trying to force his staff to be fired, and their boosters want to control everything. They need updated facilities to compete with the Bamas and Clemson, and they were fighting him tooth and nail over it.

VT has brand new facilities, great AD, easier path to the ACC championship and the Hokie Club is growing.

FSU just pushed a National Championship winning coach out the door.

Both Tennessee and FSU you don't look so hot right now. FSU is doing a hell of a lot better then Tennessee though.
anyway....I know a lot of people can't stand Clay Travis  
Greg from LI : 12/1/2017 2:46 pm : link
And I'm not much of a fan either, truth be told, but I saw this linked at another site and it's a fascinating read on the byzantine origins of the shenanigans at Tennessee.
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Greg from LI  
BobR in Durham : 12/1/2017 2:50 pm : link
Undoubtedly true. Just making a point that Fuente and his wife made a very considered choice in going to Blacksburg.
BTW, the rumor is coming true  
Greg from LI : 12/1/2017 3:23 pm : link
Phil Fulmer is being hired as Tennessee AD. Unbelievable.
RE: anyway....I know a lot of people can't stand Clay Travis  
Essex : 12/1/2017 3:41 pm : link
In comment 13716786 Greg from LI said:
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And I'm not much of a fan either, truth be told, but I saw this linked at another site and it's a fascinating read on the byzantine origins of the shenanigans at Tennessee. Link - ( New Window )


I’m sorry, I normally like your share and posts but this Clay Travis post is like a conspiracy theory run amok trash. First, he blames the media for insinuating it was the Penn State stuff that did Schiano in to make Tenn look like a bunch of redknecks. Travis was instigating that stuff as a blunt instrument and now he says “I was just pointing it out.” Second, how does he know that the media was covering for Urban Meyer amd Schiano’s agent. That is ridiculous speculation as Schiano has been crucified in the press for years. What the media saw was what he and his idiot followers were trying to do, which was take a single hearsay statement, never introduced in court and not seen in any document in the millions of pages of documents and ruin a man’s rep because they thought he sucked as a coach. In other words, since Travis was the catalyst for this job search becoming a dumpster fire he is trying to give context to marginalize his outsized role in this.
I don't disagree with any of that  
Greg from LI : 12/1/2017 3:43 pm : link
Like I said, I'm not much of a Clay Travis fan. Still thought it was an interested read for all the Fulmer-Currie background.
Leach is a fantastic football guy  
Scott in Montreal : 12/1/2017 4:20 pm : link
Just having his name at a school will help draw some serious offensive talent there.

He did it in Kentucky, Texas Tech and now Washington State.

Not a stretch to say that the system he runs is one of the more successful ones in college ball the last 20 years.

Plus there is always the intangibles that he brings along with him. The man has zero filter and it can get pretty wild at times.
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Do not underestimate Mullen at Florida  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 12/1/2017 4:29 pm : link
The guy will recruit and has been known to play the game. He's done pretty well for himself at Starkville, which is the worst school in the SEC West and he had to compete directly in-state against freeze who was outright paying guys. Now he's at a premier SEC East school sponsored by Nike.
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