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A Thought on the Eli Situation

Chris684 : 12/1/2017 9:19 am
Does anyone think it's possible that from Mara's point of view, his main concern is not Eli, but more specifically the streak?

If we are to believe that Mara is not as stupid as this situation is making him look, is it possible that he is actually getting ahead of the changes coming at the end of the season?

What I mean is, for a fresh set of eyes that is likely going to be evaluating him in the offseason and beyond, isnt easier for the next HC and the organization overall to do so without the "elephant in the room" that is the streak hanging over their heads?

If Mara is calculating all of this, perhaps he uses McAdoo as a pawn in the game to end the streak (as an overall benefit for the future of the organization), we go out and lose in Oakland, after which Mara promptly fires McAdoo and promotes Sullivan or Spags who ask Eli to start the final 4 games.

The stadium is once again packed again with Giants fans who want to come out and get behind Eli vs Dallas. The streak is over. Webb is promoted to the number 2 QB and according to what Mara says was his original plan, maybe gets some snaps over final 4 games if score is ever lopsided.

Could this be Mara's plan?
Would Eli go for this?

Eli  
bob_in_ec : 12/1/2017 9:34 am : link
would definitely start and play to win.
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CoughlinHandsonHips : 12/1/2017 9:45 am : link
Letting the dust settle for a couple days, I feel like a lot of this could've been avoided if John Mara manned up and handled both the news to Eli and the media himself.

They'll have a top 3 pick, so it makes sense they want to see if they have anything in Webb. I can also see not wanting to start him in Oakland, as it's a hostile territory for a rookie

I can imagine the conversation with Macadoo.

"LISTEN BRAH, WE WANT TO PLAY WEBB AND GENO. DON'T WORRY, BRAH, I'LL LET YA THROW A COUPLE PASSES TO YOU CAN KEEP THE STREAK"
Watching Cousins last night  
blueberry : 12/1/2017 10:08 am : link
Getting mauled and running for his life - with over half his O line 3rd stringers -
Is it possible or make sense that 1 -there was a distinct possibility Eli could have sustained a serious injury in this last month 2 -Season is lost so get a real chance to see what they have in Webb 3 - This all helps in draft strategy knowing what you have in Webb 4- Give Eli a time out - to reset his clock and get a different perspective-
Eli never really had any serious injuries - knees shoulders back neck etc and therefore is remarkably healthy for a going to be 37 yr old QB
Come January - they have more options with this scenario and a healthy Eli to boot
What does the streak have to do with anything?  
Section331 : 12/1/2017 10:17 am : link
First of all, the original plan was for Eli to start to allow the streak to continue, Mara said as much. Mara wanted Eli to start because he thought the streak was important to Eli.

That is it, end of story. There is no conspiracy here, just a hapless organization bungling a situation.
From a slightly different angle  
ron mexico : 12/1/2017 10:25 am : link
I bet Eli is happy on some level to be done with the streak. He got past his brother and was very unlikely to catch favre. I'm sure there were games in the past that he wouldn't have minded taking a seat. Now there is less pressure to play through injury
The Giants have been more loyal to John Jerry and Ben McAdoo  
Reale01 : 12/1/2017 10:38 am : link
than they have to Eli.
RE: The Giants have been more loyal to John Jerry and Ben McAdoo  
NDMedics : 12/1/2017 11:04 am : link
In comment 13716159 Reale01 said:
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than they have to Eli.


Ouch!!! But you're right, the optics are terrible.
I know that few are happy about this overall situation  
fbdad : 12/1/2017 12:33 pm : link
myself included. No one wants to see a player with Eli's level of success and fan support go out any way other than carried off the field by his teammates, victorious. The fact is, that rarely happens in the NFL.

More importantly, the Giants are faced with a scenario they never thought they'd be in, and frankly never hope they'll be in again - namely having a top 5 pick in the draft, maybe even a top 2. That's the type of position that can make or break a franchise for years to come. Getting the value possible in that position can propel a team (uh, sort of like in 2004 when that fourth pick ultimately led to the Giants getting Eli Manning!). Messing it up can screw a team for years (read 1998 and Ryan Leaf).

I don't think that anyone in the Giants organization is saying that the problems this year are Eli Manning's fault and that they're benching him because they think they have a better option today. Fans who are reading this as setting Eli up as the scapegoat are missing the whole picture.

The Giants aren't blaming Eli. They're saying we've got a 37 year old quarterback. At best, his remaining career is in the 2-4 year range. Our hope is not to be in a position where we have the 2nd pick in the draft again, so we better be prepared to make the most of it now. We need to know whether we've got Eli's replacement on the roster now, whether that's next year or in 4 years. The answer to that question determines what they do with this once in a lifetime (hopefully) draft position. Even if Eli was playing lights out and we somehow still managed to be in this position, a responsible management would explore what they had at this most important position.

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