Mara has been a good and successful owner, the Eli move was handled poorly, ok, people make mistakes
But the directive from Mara to get playing time for the young quarterbacks was a sound move for the Giants and Giants fans.
It was a bad move for those who are Eli fans first.
It is my personal opinion that the comments made about Mara that are so negative are for the most part are based in anger and emotion not logic.
He's lost me this past week. He should have fired Reese before or with Coughlin. He botched the Josh Brown situation last year. And he totally fucked up this past week. Everyone here knew Mcadoo needed to go. And Mara decided to throw the face of the franchise under the bus, piss off a large portion of the fan base only to fire (we hope/think) the coach 6 days later?
Mara has been a good and successful owner, the Eli move was handled poorly, ok, people make mistakes
But the directive from Mara to get playing time for the young quarterbacks was a sound move for the Giants and Giants fans.
It was a bad move for those who are Eli fans first.
It is my personal opinion that the comments made about Mara that are so negative are for the most part are based in anger and emotion not logic.
Yes, thank God you are the only rational one. The directive was not a "sound" move. It was stupid because no matter what either Smith or Webb show, the Giants are still drafting a qb with the first pick and if not, they really are idiots. It was really stupid in light of the fact that Smith is a FA and Webb has had very limited practice time according to the HC. It really makes no logical sense when one remembers that Manning is due a big bonus and is still under contract so if anyone needed to be evaluated,it was Manning without McAdope's shitty offense.
for PSLs and season tickets to watch this? I am so glad I wasn't a sucker. Tickets abound on the internet not like the seventies-eighties for a thirty-year wait. John better understand his product sucks.
get the Giants into a winning situation?
1. They have to find a QB to replace Eli.
2. They have to find someone to replace MacAdoo.
3. They have to sign or draft some receivers.
4. They have to sign or draft some offensive linemen.
Mara has been a good and successful owner, the Eli move was handled poorly, ok, people make mistakes
But the directive from Mara to get playing time for the young quarterbacks was a sound move for the Giants and Giants fans.
It was a bad move for those who are Eli fans first.
It is my personal opinion that the comments made about Mara that are so negative are for the most part are based in anger and emotion not logic.
It’s definitely logical. Mara has sat by idly as Reese has botched draft after draft resulting in 1 winning season in 6 years. Mara signed off on canning Coughlin as change to appease the masses. Mara signed off on promoting this idiot to the HC. Mara sat idly by as the HC completely lost control of the locker room. Mara signed off on benching Eli to get a look at a shitty QB who’s a FA at the end of the year. Mara has absolutely no direction or vision for the franchise.
Mara has been a good and successful owner, the Eli move was handled poorly, ok, people make mistakes
But the directive from Mara to get playing time for the young quarterbacks was a sound move for the Giants and Giants fans.
It was a bad move for those who are Eli fans first.
It is my personal opinion that the comments made about Mara that are so negative are for the most part are based in anger and emotion not logic.
Yes, thank God you are the only rational one. The directive was not a "sound" move. It was stupid because no matter what either Smith or Webb show, the Giants are still drafting a qb with the first pick and if not, they really are idiots. It was really stupid in light of the fact that Smith is a FA and Webb has had very limited practice time according to the HC. It really makes no logical sense when one remembers that Manning is due a big bonus and is still under contract so if anyone needed to be evaluated,it was Manning without McAdope's shitty offense.
this is pretty much my take. Working in Geno has no purpose at all unless you’re trying to win games and make the playoffs and you believe be Eli is the reason they are not successful. Today was proof positive that the problems are inherent in the offense and it’s not on Eli. Working in Webb makes sense if you’re out of playoff contention but also out of the top QB running and therefore are committed to Webb for the future. That’s. To th case here either. This really is nothing more than a clusterfuck.
Maybe they will tear down that tuna can of a stadium too.
So many slightly older and new stadiums make ours seem like, like, our OL.
Yeah yeah, that's the ticket.
Next week the stadium will be half filled with cowboys fans, and the remaining portion are going to be booing.
get the Giants into a winning situation?
1. They have to find a QB to replace Eli.
2. They have to find someone to replace MacAdoo.
3. They have to sign or draft some receivers.
4. They have to sign or draft some offensive linemen.
And Reese needs to go
Reese needs to go or fans need to revolt further rest of season Â
get the Giants into a winning situation?
1. They have to find a QB to replace Eli.
2. They have to find someone to replace MacAdoo.
3. They have to sign or draft some receivers.
4. They have to sign or draft some offensive linemen.
1. Fire Reese
2. Fire McAdoo
3. Replace above
4. Look for value in FA at OL (not much) and LB
5. Try to trade Eli, otherwise have to cut him
6. Cut other bad contracts (Vereen, shitty LBs, etc)
7. Draft a QB, hopefully Rosen
8. Hope you can find at least 2 OL starters in the rest of the draft
Maybe they’ll be 6-10 to 8-8 next year. Hope new management can nail FA and the draft in ‘19 and maybe they’ll be good again. This is probably best case scenario.
The Giants didn't get blown out so they could use the big loss as justification that its not the QB, its McAdoo and fire him.
The cluster of a season got clusterier for them.
Steve: So now what do we do?
John: I have no clue!
Steve(under his breath): As usual.
John:What did you mumble?
Steve:I said: ITS REALLY UNUSUAL for you John.
Steve: Wanna talk about things back at the hotel, or wait until tomorrow at the office.
John: Tomorrow. Early.
Steve: OK John.
a monumental cluster fuck from Mara to Reese to MacCrappy
A total indignation to the best QB in franchise history that has had his prime years scuttled by a mismanaged organization with no vision or competence in evaluating talent and salaries .
Tisch should have shown for the press conference he announced, even if Mara was against it.
And if Mara fires McAdoo tomorrow, then this was a setup, pure and simple. As much as McAdoo deserves to get fired, he should not have this all on his head. This was a group decision, even if the proper message didn't get through.
I hope the Metlife crowd next Sunday makes themselves loud and clear about Mara/Tisch/Reese and McAdoo. It's time these guys get the messages...a CLEAR message on how badly they screwed up.
There’s no reason to fire him with only four games left.
The reason is to show poor performance has consequences.
You can't fire an entire team, but each one is now on notice that they will be evaluated over the final games.
plane from Oakland lands at EWR, Mara and Tisch ask Reese and McAdoo to meet with them at the stadium, both fired.
Reese and McAdoo finish out the season, then get fired. New GM right away. New Coach, when available.
Move forward.
Must be going to get with ESPN and Mike Strahan to be sure they get approval before making any business decisions, lol. I would really loose respect if they reacted to all those want to be owners who just live to talk BS. I don’t fire a coach because the media says that’s what I should do not now not ever.
Must be going to get with ESPN and Mike Strahan to be sure they get approval before making any business decisions, lol. I would really loose respect if they reacted to all those want to be owners who just live to talk BS. I don’t fire a coach because the media says that’s what I should do not now not ever.
To be fair, Strahan also wears the "respected Giants Hall of Famer who played with Eli" hat.
And once they do, nobody with the name Mara should be directly involved in football desicions. The Mara clan can't wash their hands of this mess, it's of their creation
And once they do, nobody with the name Mara should be directly involved in football desicions. The Mara clan can't wash their hands of this mess, it's of their creation
Although I agree with you, that's not the reality of it. Mara and Tisch own the team, unless they decide to sell the team they are going nowhere.
And not be directly involved in the football operation. And that is a part of what needs to happen here IMO
Hire a new GM slash VP of football opefations type, allow them to hire a new coaching staff who share a common philosophy, and build from there. Build a team witj a clear football identity and vision. Mara and his brother should get out of the way, they are part of the problem.
If youre a billionare who invests in a restaurant, do you create ghe recipes or do you let your chef do that?
Mara has been a good and successful owner, the Eli move was handled poorly, ok, people make mistakes
But the directive from Mara to get playing time for the young quarterbacks was a sound move for the Giants and Giants fans.
It was a bad move for those who are Eli fans first.
It is my personal opinion that the comments made about Mara that are so negative are for the most part are based in anger and emotion not logic.
Need to know when they’re firing Reese bc that’s just as if not more important.
Otherwise they are paying extra for his individual flight.
Let's save a few bucks and shit-can him manana!
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Need to know when they’re firing Reese bc that’s just as if not more important.
I agree Will. He has to go
Mara has been a good and successful owner, the Eli move was handled poorly, ok, people make mistakes
But the directive from Mara to get playing time for the young quarterbacks was a sound move for the Giants and Giants fans.
It was a bad move for those who are Eli fans first.
It is my personal opinion that the comments made about Mara that are so negative are for the most part are based in anger and emotion not logic.
He's lost me this past week. He should have fired Reese before or with Coughlin. He botched the Josh Brown situation last year. And he totally fucked up this past week. Everyone here knew Mcadoo needed to go. And Mara decided to throw the face of the franchise under the bus, piss off a large portion of the fan base only to fire (we hope/think) the coach 6 days later?
Mara has been a good and successful owner, the Eli move was handled poorly, ok, people make mistakes
But the directive from Mara to get playing time for the young quarterbacks was a sound move for the Giants and Giants fans.
It was a bad move for those who are Eli fans first.
It is my personal opinion that the comments made about Mara that are so negative are for the most part are based in anger and emotion not logic.
people make mistakes? this was a huge clusterfuck!
There is no reason not to either.
Mara has been a good and successful owner, the Eli move was handled poorly, ok, people make mistakes
But the directive from Mara to get playing time for the young quarterbacks was a sound move for the Giants and Giants fans.
It was a bad move for those who are Eli fans first.
It is my personal opinion that the comments made about Mara that are so negative are for the most part are based in anger and emotion not logic.
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based on what.
Mara has been a good and successful owner, the Eli move was handled poorly, ok, people make mistakes
But the directive from Mara to get playing time for the young quarterbacks was a sound move for the Giants and Giants fans.
It was a bad move for those who are Eli fans first.
It is my personal opinion that the comments made about Mara that are so negative are for the most part are based in anger and emotion not logic.
people make mistakes? this was a huge clusterfuck!
1. They have to find a QB to replace Eli.
2. They have to find someone to replace MacAdoo.
3. They have to sign or draft some receivers.
4. They have to sign or draft some offensive linemen.
Mara has been a good and successful owner, the Eli move was handled poorly, ok, people make mistakes
But the directive from Mara to get playing time for the young quarterbacks was a sound move for the Giants and Giants fans.
It was a bad move for those who are Eli fans first.
It is my personal opinion that the comments made about Mara that are so negative are for the most part are based in anger and emotion not logic.
It’s definitely logical. Mara has sat by idly as Reese has botched draft after draft resulting in 1 winning season in 6 years. Mara signed off on canning Coughlin as change to appease the masses. Mara signed off on promoting this idiot to the HC. Mara sat idly by as the HC completely lost control of the locker room. Mara signed off on benching Eli to get a look at a shitty QB who’s a FA at the end of the year. Mara has absolutely no direction or vision for the franchise.
just fire everyone, thats your solution? fucking idiot thats not how it works.
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based on what.
Mara has been a good and successful owner, the Eli move was handled poorly, ok, people make mistakes
But the directive from Mara to get playing time for the young quarterbacks was a sound move for the Giants and Giants fans.
It was a bad move for those who are Eli fans first.
It is my personal opinion that the comments made about Mara that are so negative are for the most part are based in anger and emotion not logic.
Yes, thank God you are the only rational one. The directive was not a "sound" move. It was stupid because no matter what either Smith or Webb show, the Giants are still drafting a qb with the first pick and if not, they really are idiots. It was really stupid in light of the fact that Smith is a FA and Webb has had very limited practice time according to the HC. It really makes no logical sense when one remembers that Manning is due a big bonus and is still under contract so if anyone needed to be evaluated,it was Manning without McAdope's shitty offense.
what a stellar year for our organization
what a stellar year for our organization
Mara probably told him to put a sock in it
So many slightly older and new stadiums make ours seem like, like, our OL.
Yeah yeah, that's the ticket.
Next week the stadium will be half filled with cowboys fans, and the remaining portion are going to be booing.
1. They have to find a QB to replace Eli.
2. They have to find someone to replace MacAdoo.
3. They have to sign or draft some receivers.
4. They have to sign or draft some offensive linemen.
And Reese needs to go
1. They have to find a QB to replace Eli.
2. They have to find someone to replace MacAdoo.
3. They have to sign or draft some receivers.
4. They have to sign or draft some offensive linemen.
1. Fire Reese
2. Fire McAdoo
3. Replace above
4. Look for value in FA at OL (not much) and LB
5. Try to trade Eli, otherwise have to cut him
6. Cut other bad contracts (Vereen, shitty LBs, etc)
7. Draft a QB, hopefully Rosen
8. Hope you can find at least 2 OL starters in the rest of the draft
Maybe they’ll be 6-10 to 8-8 next year. Hope new management can nail FA and the draft in ‘19 and maybe they’ll be good again. This is probably best case scenario.
The cluster of a season got clusterier for them.
Steve: So now what do we do?
John: I have no clue!
Steve(under his breath): As usual.
John:What did you mumble?
Steve:I said: ITS REALLY UNUSUAL for you John.
Steve: Wanna talk about things back at the hotel, or wait until tomorrow at the office.
John: Tomorrow. Early.
Steve: OK John.
A total indignation to the best QB in franchise history that has had his prime years scuttled by a mismanaged organization with no vision or competence in evaluating talent and salaries .
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There’s no reason to fire him with only four games left.
There is no reason not to either.
Yes there is. The last thing you want is some assistant going 2-2 and the talking heads start bleating about making him permanent coach.
And if Mara fires McAdoo tomorrow, then this was a setup, pure and simple. As much as McAdoo deserves to get fired, he should not have this all on his head. This was a group decision, even if the proper message didn't get through.
I hope the Metlife crowd next Sunday makes themselves loud and clear about Mara/Tisch/Reese and McAdoo. It's time these guys get the messages...a CLEAR message on how badly they screwed up.
The reason is to show poor performance has consequences.
You can't fire an entire team, but each one is now on notice that they will be evaluated over the final games.
Giants need to evaluate how the assistants can perform in the HC role. Maybe they each get a half!!!
Reese and McAdoo finish out the season, then get fired. New GM right away. New Coach, when available.
Move forward.
Tisch said before the game that he would talk to the media after
To be fair, Strahan also wears the "respected Giants Hall of Famer who played with Eli" hat.
Hire a new GM slash VP of football opefations type, allow them to hire a new coaching staff who share a common philosophy, and build from there. Build a team witj a clear football identity and vision. Mara and his brother should get out of the way, they are part of the problem.
If youre a billionare who invests in a restaurant, do you create ghe recipes or do you let your chef do that?