Lost in this whole benching fiasco is one key, scary component -
The fact that the owner directed the head coach as to who to play and who not to play.
Since when did we get Danny boy Snyder as owner?
We already have Chris Mara lurking in the front office evaluating players.
Most definitely McAdoo is a waste of space and Reese is terrible, but it raises the question of whether these two are simply convenient yes men for meddling owners who are making terrible football decisions.
Different players in the direction, different roles and connections, but on the other side of the coin more of a mess.
We have truly whiffed on more than a fair share of draft signings and picks to the point of hitting bottom.
Did not think we would get there again for a while, but here we are.
Its time to clean house. Sometimes some get caught in the vacuum.
Yeah but the implications didn't hit me just now because I was focused on McAdoo and Reese.
Nope. Reese is a convenient scapegoat. He's certainly a big part of the problem but this is all about the Mara family. They were obviously the ones who Forced out Gilbride the Fewell. McAdoo was their hire. Now John Mara wants to see the other QBs Wish earlier in the year the moronic owner would have asked for less 3 WR sets to see the FB Extra TEs on the field.
John and Chris want to play with their toy. Shit. I didn't even know there was a Frank Mara until I read he got into a verbal fight w a player.
Anyone who thinks ownership isn't knee deep into this shit show is kidding themeselves
^^^This. If a normal BBIer was team owner, Macadoofus and Reese would have been gone a month a go when we were 1-8.
If somehow one or both survives into next season, we are so royally fucked.
but what do we really know as fans.
When a CEO is getting ousted from a company the Board of directors has to make the call
I would imagine that benching a QB is the coach/GM's decision and ownership isn't consulted
BUT this was bigger. And if JR Macadoosh didn't think it would have a bigger backfire and somehow did this on their own, I expect both to be goners anyway
but yet, he comes off smelling like roses compared to John Mara, as of this moment.
He thought saying "We should get a look at the young guys" wasn't the same as saying "Bench Eli." It's not crazy that he didn't see the difference, but as a practical matter, it's pretty much the same thing. Eli wasn't going to start treating the games like pre-season. That's not how football's played. If you want him to play, you play him. If you don't want him to play, you don't play him. It's unsubtle thinking, but football's an unsubtle game played by unsubtle men.
So yeah, ownership is part of the problem.
Wellington Mara went through this kind of crisis in the 1970s when he found that he wasn't good at management of the football side, a role he'd inherited after his brother died. Wellington never really solved that crisis; the solution (George Young) was forced on him by the impasse with his brother's heir and then by the league office. John Mara now has to decide if he is going to do the thing his father didn't do, and pull the organization out of a leadership tailspin.
I've said this on BBI before: As someone who grew up in the late 60s and 70s, I don't have the same affection for the Maras as owners that older and younger fans do. I think they have a tendency toward cronyism and left to their own devices they run a mediocre football organization. But I've seen 4 Super Bowl wins in 30 years, so I don't have a lot to complain about. I look at my extended family in Cleveland, all die-hard Browns fans, and think "That could be me."
Things ebb and flow, there are good years and bad years, that's life. Let's see if John Mara can learn from this and turn things around.
Mara is a huge part of thge problem. And anyone who believes that this whole Eli scheme was cooked up by Reese and Ben without running it by Mara, well I got a bridge to seel you
Get a better GM and Coach. Get guys with some balls (like TC) who can have the hard conversations with the owner when the need arises.
Get a better GM and Coach. Get guys with some balls (like TC) who can have the hard conversations with the owner when the need arises.
This times a million.
That's a tough point to make. What Owners in this league are going to be talked at by their head coach?
And do your Coughlin point, how many assistants was he forced to push out the door? He didn't draw a line in the sand.
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Get guys with some balls (like TC) who can have the hard conversations with the owner when the need arises.
That's a tough point to make. What Owners in this league are going to be talked at by their head coach?
And do your Coughlin point, how many assistants was he forced to push out the door? He didn't draw a line in the sand.
If Mara is so hard to work with than we’d be the Redskins.
It’s a shit season and fans are throwing everything at the wall hoping it sticks. The Maras are good owners who made a bad hire. It happens.
My memory is that when the Gmen won it all in '07 and '11 we saw Tisch in the postgame interviews of course in a ceremonial role. It suggests to me that Mara was not exercising a heavy hand in running the team. Somehow over the past four years or so, John is front and center about every decision, often quoted about football decisions, including draft picks. He is experienced as an heir and nothing else. His deep involvement in football decisions is the second coming of his father's disastrous reign. Our problem's may not be solved until he is forced to take a back seat.
IThought it was weird when I read it.
Saw it once and never read or saw anything again.
Never commented on it before or thought about it til I wrote that.
I do wish there wasn’t a Chris and John Mara now though can’t I?
Mara is a huge part of thge problem. And anyone who believes that this whole Eli scheme was cooked up by Reese and Ben without running it by Mara, well I got a bridge to seel you
Didn’t Mara force McAdoo onto TC? Mara forced the Gilbride firing right. The offense is broken. And was most likely a part of his hiring. So yeah. He’s been part of this for a while
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Get guys with some balls (like TC) who can have the hard conversations with the owner when the need arises.
That's a tough point to make. What Owners in this league are going to be talked at by their head coach?
And do your Coughlin point, how many assistants was he forced to push out the door? He didn't draw a line in the sand.
If Mara is so hard to work with than we’d be the Redskins.
It’s a shit season and fans are throwing everything at the wall hoping it sticks. The Maras are good owners who made a bad hire. It happens.
Since 2011 I think we've been worse than the Redskins.