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After McAdoo is fired, does Spags let Eli start?

I Love Clams Casino : 12/3/2017 8:50 pm
Or will he continue this "experimentation"?
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/3/2017 8:51 pm : link
Reports say Mike Sullivan could be the HC.
At this point you go with Webb.  
FStubbs : 12/3/2017 8:51 pm : link
The team has made its bed, have to lie in it.
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Rjanyg : 12/3/2017 8:53 pm : link
In comment 13721109 Eric from BBI said:
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Reports say Mike Sullivan could be the HC.


Where did you see/hear that?
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montanagiant : 12/3/2017 8:53 pm : link
In comment 13721109 Eric from BBI said:
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Reports say Mike Sullivan could be the HC.

That is who I am hoping for
please not Spags  
markky : 12/3/2017 8:54 pm : link
we don't need the speculation.

Worst case scenario  
Marty866b : 12/3/2017 8:56 pm : link
Sullivan or another member of this staff wins a game or two and is kept on.
what's done is done  
SHO'NUFF : 12/3/2017 8:57 pm : link
the streak is over, Rivers will pass Eli on that list, as well as in all time touchdowns, Eli's HoF chances are shot after being benched for Geno...

there's no point now...
No...  
bw in dc : 12/3/2017 8:59 pm : link
Losing is imperative.
RE: Worst case scenario  
HomerJones45 : 12/3/2017 9:01 pm : link
In comment 13721135 Marty866b said:
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Sullivan or another member of this staff wins a game or two and is kept on.
Marrone won one game last season as interim HC. How is that working out this season?
Shonuff  
jtgiants : 12/3/2017 9:02 pm : link
Its ignorant to say Elis God chances are shot. He'll get in. To say he has no chance is not based in reality
He was on the fence  
SHO'NUFF : 12/3/2017 9:03 pm : link
before the benching...
Dann autocorrect  
jtgiants : 12/3/2017 9:03 pm : link
Hof chances
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mphbullet36 : 12/3/2017 9:04 pm : link
In comment 13721140 bw in dc said:
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Losing is imperative.


exactly, at this point whats done is done. Webb should start remaining 4 games and we need to lose all 4 to lock in the #2 pick
Why you trying to get Webb's legs broke?  
idiotsavant : 12/3/2017 9:06 pm : link
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Shonuff  
jtgiants : 12/3/2017 9:06 pm : link
He may not get in right away but u see by the reaction around the league he's getting in
RE: Shonuff  
RDJR : 12/3/2017 9:10 pm : link
In comment 13721146 jtgiants said:
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Its ignorant to say Elis God chances are shot. He'll get in. To say he has no chance is not based in reality


I actually think it helps his chances. Makes him a more sympathetic character. Not just a Manning that refused to play in SD.
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AnishPatel : 12/3/2017 9:17 pm : link
In comment 13721109 Eric from BBI said:
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Reports say Mike Sullivan could be the HC.


Why? He has no experience. I wonder what the thought process is right regarding that
RE: what's done is done  
section125 : 12/3/2017 9:17 pm : link
In comment 13721137 SHO'NUFF said:
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the streak is over, Rivers will pass Eli on that list, as well as in all time touchdowns, Eli's HoF chances are shot after being benched for Geno...

there's no point now...


14 year career, 2 Super Bowls victories and 2 MVPs, top 7 in most categories and sitting a few games is ruining his HoF chances? What if he was injured to end his streak, would that ruin his chances?

At this point Eli is either in or he is out and the benching has little if any effect.
At this point, I don't care if it's Eli or Davis Webb or Geno.  
81_Great_Dane : 12/3/2017 9:19 pm : link
That damage is done. The season is broken. The offense is broken. The organization is broken. Put Eli in, bench him, whatever.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/3/2017 9:20 pm : link
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If McAdoo is fired before the season ends, he will become the first Giants coach since 1930 to be dismissed before completing two full seasons. Defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo has been widely speculated as a potential interim head coach if the Giants make a change, but one person with knowledge of the Giants' thinking recently told NJ Advance Media there is a good chance Mara and fellow co-owner Steve Tisch would instead name offensive coordinator Mike Sullivan the interim coach.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2017/12/giants_may_fire_ben_mcadoo_in_next_24_hours_espn_r.html - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Worst case scenario  
jeff57 : 12/3/2017 9:22 pm : link
In comment 13721144 HomerJones45 said:
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In comment 13721135 Marty866b said:


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Sullivan or another member of this staff wins a game or two and is kept on.

Marrone won one game last season as interim HC. How is that working out this season?


So what? I still remember when John McVaybwin a couple of games as interim and they kept him in. And that turned out to be a total disaster. So keep Mike Sullivan and pass on David Shaw. McDaniels, etc
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SHO'NUFF : 12/3/2017 9:23 pm : link
In comment 13721164 RDJR said:
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In comment 13721146 jtgiants said:


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Its ignorant to say Elis God chances are shot. He'll get in. To say he has no chance is not based in reality



I actually think it helps his chances. Makes him a more sympathetic character. Not just a Manning that refused to play in SD.


I thought about this, as well. You might have a point there. Influence the mob through the media.
well, at least that would explain why they brought Sullivan in  
Vanzetti : 12/3/2017 9:24 pm : link
it certainly wasn't for his play calling ability
Sullivan over Spagnuolo doesn't make a lot of sense  
ghost718 : 12/3/2017 9:26 pm : link
So there might be some truth to that
RE: RE: what's done is done  
SHO'NUFF : 12/3/2017 9:27 pm : link
In comment 13721176 section125 said:
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In comment 13721137 SHO'NUFF said:


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the streak is over, Rivers will pass Eli on that list, as well as in all time touchdowns, Eli's HoF chances are shot after being benched for Geno...

there's no point now...



14 year career, 2 Super Bowls victories and 2 MVPs, top 7 in most categories and sitting a few games is ruining his HoF chances? What if he was injured to end his streak, would that ruin his chances?

At this point Eli is either in or he is out and the benching has little if any effect.


You're preaching to the choir. Eli is no doubt HoF material in my eyes, but you know how these things work. We only know what's what because we are so embedded with the organization. As of now, the last thing that the media will remember about Eli Manning, and perhaps voters, is that he got benched for Geno Smith.
Why the hell is Mike Sullivan getting consideration here  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/3/2017 9:28 pm : link
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Play Webb  
KWALL2 : 12/3/2017 9:30 pm : link
Get the #2 pick.

And start over in January.
Shonuff  
jtgiants : 12/3/2017 9:30 pm : link
You have a point but I really believe he gets in.
Eli speaking post game saying "he doesnt want McAdoo fired"  
micky : 12/3/2017 9:33 pm : link
May hold strong to Mara and not fire mcadoo and likely be on for next season. that's kinda stuff Mara listen to esp coming from manning.

never trust Mara and automatically putting a stamp on either mac or Reeses departure..
McAdoo benches Eli and promptly is fired  
madgiantscow009 : 12/3/2017 9:34 pm : link
for not winning? Is Ben just the fall guy for the Eli decision when it was Maras or was it reall McAdoos idea?

RE: what's done is done  
WillVAB : 12/3/2017 9:34 pm : link
In comment 13721137 SHO'NUFF said:
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the streak is over, Rivers will pass Eli on that list, as well as in all time touchdowns, Eli's HoF chances are shot after being benched for Geno...

there's no point now...


I disagree but even if I agreed at this point his career isn’t over. Now he’ll have the option to play in a better situation with a better GM building the roster and a coach that has a clue. Definitely better than sticking around here for some hybrid rebuild ordeal.
let Eli start against Washington  
Dankbeerman : 12/3/2017 11:59 pm : link
anounce it now. Give him the send off he deserves. Might actually get people in the stadium too.
RE: McAdoo benches Eli and promptly is fired  
BlackLight : 12/4/2017 12:17 am : link
In comment 13721215 madgiantscow009 said:
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for not winning? Is Ben just the fall guy for the Eli decision when it was Maras or was it reall McAdoos idea?


I think the only reason McAdoo might get fired tomorrow is because he and Mara appeared to have a plan for working Geno and Webb into the remaining games that would've allowed Eli to keep starting and keep his dignity, but then McAdoo called an audible with a ridiculous predetermined time-share that may well have poisoned Eli's relationship with the organization. Mara wanted Eli to finish his career in a Giants uniform, and because of McAdoo's mistake (if it was indeed a mistake), that might not happen.
If McAdoo's Fired Does Eli Start?  
Percy : 12/4/2017 12:22 am : link
If Webb is nowhere near ready, and we know zip about that, yes. Geno is a kind of brain-dead guy with no future.
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Percy : 12/4/2017 12:23 am : link
In comment 13721109 Eric from BBI said:
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Reports say Mike Sullivan could be the HC.

Sullivan: another guy with no talent -- more waste heap material.
A few thoughts  
Matt M. : 12/4/2017 1:22 am : link
1) There is nobody on this staff who should have a job in the organization next year. So, I find firing McAdoo at this point a waste.

2) Now to save face, you almost have to stick with Geno until Webb is ready.
If I'm the owner,  
prdave73 : 12/4/2017 4:13 am : link
I clean house. Bring in a new GM to then hire a new HC and DC. Plus staff under them. You have to start fresh, don't leave any possible issues that helped plague this Giants team in the past 3 years.
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