Let McAdoo finish the season

benching. But this has been such a public relations disaster for the organization, they may have to immediately fire he would will never again be named once he is gone

the few Giants fans that show up will be jeering him constantly, one can only assume there will be McAdoo Must go chants throughout and a cacophony of boos.

I'm out for Dallas and may not be able to stomach the eagle game but plan on attending the new years ever disaster vs the Skins. I'd love it if McAdoo was still there suffering. there will be so few people in attendance that game he might actually hear the individual insults being hurled at him.

He's better off on the unemployment line. Everyone is.

because there is fear of them not being able to find a job next season. They are all playing for self preservation in getting new contracts or hitting bonuses.

No player on this roster really wakes up says “gotta play hard for coach today!”.

Patently obvious he was over his head, a season of high expectations was a disaster and there was no useful purpose served by prolonging the agony.

I would think it more important to bring in a replacement for Reese before the end of the year than it is to replace the coach. Free agency and the draft come months before training camp opens

In comment 13721619 Sammo85 said:

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because there is fear of them not being able to find a job next season. They are all playing for self preservation in getting new contracts or hitting bonuses. No player on this roster really wakes up says “gotta play hard for coach today!”.

Whatever the reason, the players are trying and to me that would be a primary reason for a mid season removal. The players kind of went to bat for him yesterday—any satisfaction of doing it now is outweighed by the damage of the drama of the circus of this week after week. I wouldn’t do it today, but today should definitely be the last day we hear about this until after season. Either fire him today or let the media know all decisions will he made after season.

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Just like they did with Eli!

why downgrade the franchise any further by directing its first mid season head coach firing.

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In comment 13721619 Sammo85 said: Quote: because there is fear of them not being able to find a job next season. They are all playing for self preservation in getting new contracts or hitting bonuses. No player on this roster really wakes up says “gotta play hard for coach today!”. Whatever the reason, the players are trying and to me that would be a primary reason for a mid season removal. The players kind of went to bat for him yesterday—any satisfaction of doing it now is outweighed by the damage of the drama of the circus of this week after week. I wouldn’t do it today, but today should definitely be the last day we hear about this until after season. Either fire him today or let the media know all decisions will he made after season.

I don't agree with you on the players going to bat for him. The defenders have come back to playing for themselves.

But I do agree with your last part. Ownership needs to make the decision today. To me, its pretty clear its time for him to go now.

Is to guarantee we lose out. Which isn’t a horrible idea

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why downgrade the franchise any further by directing its first mid season head coach firing.

This would not be the first. Arnsparger was fired mid-season. Also, the Giants let go of several coaches mid-season during their season tenure early on in their history.

Also, Fassel came close to getting fired before he begged ownership to let him finish out the season and got it by saying he'd resign.

& Sullivan or Spagnuolo re-inserts Eli in the starting lineup , and they play poorly, the fans-those who bother to show up-will boo incessantly . What's different? McAdoo is walking the point on this . As soon as he is fired , the focus will be on management . As soon as Eli has his next shit game, the love affair ends. There will be chants for Webb.

Let NcAdoo finish the season. Why? Because you cannot fire the owners is my pat response .

No... The biggest reason is to get a head start on the search. Make no bones about it, the house cleaning is coming. Attempt to make some changes now- just the overall feel of where things will go and get that whole process at the starting gate much sooner. This season is lost... No need to drag out a guy who isn't going to be here and let him make statements and be somewhat adversarial with the media knowing his gone..

He has to go. This has been pathetic to say the least.

That the NYG threw McAdoo off the plane somewhere over the Grand Canyon on the flight back to Newark, but they didn’t. Let him finish this off by enduring the wrath of the Home crowd 3 more times. It also may ensure they lose out and lock up the 2 pick, which has to be the goal. It’s so tantalizingly close.

In comment 13721689 The_Boss said:

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That the NYG threw McAdoo off the plane somewhere over the Grand Canyon on the flight back to Newark, but they didn’t. Let him finish this off by enduring the wrath of the Home crowd 3 more times. It also may ensure they lose out and lock up the 2 pick, which has to be the goal. It’s so tantalizingly close.

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also has been helped out to look like they are playing hard because of the shit offenses they are facing.

If we weren't 2-9 going into yesterday, fans would have no compassion for that loss. And there were a lot of mental/concentration errors

- 2 bad turnovers in scoring territory
- 2 dropped INT's right in the defender's hands
- Allowing Lynch to rip off a 51 yard TD
- Defense allowing an easy score after making the game tight

We were playing a 5-6 team without their 2 best WR's. Are people really going to act like they'd be happy with the way the team played absent the 2-9 record? We have different definitions of playing hard

weren't missing key players?

Situation has gotten too toxic.

Can you imagine what the three remaining home games would be like

nothing. Ditto Ross. They should all be dumped today. With 4 weeks left there is here is nothing Reese or Ross is doing that can't be handled by Abrams.

1) If the front office thinks a new coach's system will help them evaluate players better going forward, McAdoo should go.

2) If McAdoo continues to be an embarrassment to the organization, he should go immediately.

The hitch is that in the case of #1, the Giants might be too talent deficient at this point to get a good read on the personnel. And in the case of #2, I think the GM and the owners have done as much to embarrass the organization as the coach.

I support whatever gives them the best chance to lose and an opportunity to get David Webb some action. I don't think it matters who the coach is. They are all gone at the end of the year.

Not a lot of penalties, no real boneheaded plays or out of control players, not a lot of busted coverages or clearly blown assignments, and frankly they've generally been competitive. I don't see the hallmarks of poor coaching on the field. They just don't have the horses, and that's not on Mac.

Yes, it's been a poorly run team but that's as much on the organization generally as it is on Mac. Yes, Mac is pretty horrible with the press, but why - because he doesn't tell them much? I have no problem with that. I also think it takes guts to bench some of your best players because they're either breaking rules or underperforming, especially when you're a coach on the hotseat.

I get that he's likely gone, but I think it's a little unfair. His assignment was to win the division with the worst QB in the division and with offensive line that clearly didn't synch with his quarterback's strengths. It's like the organization said "go make lemonade with these lemons and when it starts to go sour, you're out."

I also think firing him today makes the team look like an even bigger lost-its-way laughing stock. But then again, I suppose nothing would surprise me with the way this season has gone...

and undoing the damage, it begins with McAdoo being fired today. News outlets have already run with the story that he "might" be fired as soon as today. He has to go. Today.

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I don't see the hallmarks of poor coaching on the field.

- His offenses haven't put up over 20 points in how long??
- He ran 91% of the plays last year out of the same personnel grouping
- He carried a FB on the team for the first few games and never utilized him in short yardage or goal line situations
- The defense appeared to quit in at least two games prompting benchings and a film review that was the topic of discussion for the Thankgiving Night crew to blabber about all game
- We had two INT's directly in player's chests dropped yesterday which is probably more of a lack of focus than anything else
- He basically approached the first part of the season as if it were last year, playing ultra-conservative on offense thinking he had a dominant D
- He gave up playcalling midway through the year.

I see a lot of poor coaching this year, including the stubborness of having Ellison and a FB on the roster and not utilizing them very well

And my .02 only.
The damage with Eli is done and can't be undone (the streak). While I could (or would) never root for a loss, I believe Benny gives us the best chance for them. And with those losses , better draft picks for our new GM and HC to rebuild with.

Players seemingly quitting on the field, putting themselves in situations to obviously get suspended, and anonymous quotes to the media are absolutely hallmarks of poor coaching.

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because there is fear of them not being able to find a job next season. They are all playing for self preservation in getting new contracts or hitting bonuses. No player on this roster really wakes up says “gotta play hard for coach today!”.

This. Pretty simple. IMO

It's no longer just a lousy football season. For example with McAdoo still there next week's home game will turn into a national embarrassment. Commentators everywhere will be there laughing, looking for signs, protests, more billboards, etc.

so he can showered with boos for our final three games. But, thinking with my head, he should be shown the door today.

Bad as a PR guy. He's awful, just awful, how can anyone root for the guy when he constantly acts like a jerk, looks like a jerk, speaks like a jerk, and then the whole Eli thing on top of it.

He tries to act like Belicheck without the resume or cool personility. It's like Richie Cunningham trying to act like the Fonz.

His offense the last two years have been awful and that is a fireable offense given his portfolio and supposed strengths, I just don’t think it makes any sense to do it now. The team might not be playing well but it is playing hard. It has significant injuries and most importantly the drama needs to go away. We can still look for coaches, nobody thinks he is staying so our search can begin. If there was anyone who should have been fired during the season it was Reese, you could have hired a GM and had him start the evaluation process of our scouts and our next qb. Instead, we had Reese at the USC-UCLA game acting like he is going to have a say in that decision.Anyway, I hope we decide today on McAdoo either way

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Bad as a PR guy. He's awful, just awful, how can anyone root for the guy when he constantly acts like a jerk, looks like a jerk, speaks like a jerk, and then the whole Eli thing on top of it. He tries to act like Belicheck without the resume or cool personility. It's like Richie Cunningham trying to act like the Fonz.

What do you think he has done right as a head coach? I'm not trying to be sarcastic or mean here - I'd legitimately like to know what people think his strengths are.

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Is to guarantee we lose out. Which isn’t a horrible idea

This

Today.

In comment 13721823 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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so he can showered with boos for our final three games. But, thinking with my head, he should be shown the door today.

More heel heat than the Hogan heel turn and Ric Flair in the 1980s...

I might buy a ticket to Sunday JUST to boo MacAdoo... Unfortunately, it will be the most fun a fan can have this season.

is enticing but I equally want him to get a full serving of the misery he created and coach all remaining games. Outside of PR there is no real reason to can him now - especially if we want to continue to lose and get the #2 pick.

In comment 13721705 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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also has been helped out to look like they are playing hard because of the shit offenses they are facing. If we weren't 2-9 going into yesterday, fans would have no compassion for that loss. And there were a lot of mental/concentration errors - 2 bad turnovers in scoring territory - 2 dropped INT's right in the defender's hands - Allowing Lynch to rip off a 51 yard TD - Defense allowing an easy score after making the game tight We were playing a 5-6 team without their 2 best WR's. Are people really going to act like they'd be happy with the way the team played absent the 2-9 record? We have different definitions of playing hard

bingo

And the offense has not been very good since he has been HC. If someone is not very good at their core competency, what really is left.

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because there is fear of them not being able to find a job next season. They are all playing for self preservation in getting new contracts or hitting bonuses. No player on this roster really wakes up says “gotta play hard for coach today!”.

Could have fooled me with guys like JPP,Shane Vereeen,they look like they have mailed it in or are just finished as players or they quit because they aren’t getting hurt for a lame duck coach ....... if it was me I’d cut them both regardless of cap hit