I saw a lot of positives, especially considering this is a guy who has not played in a real football game in years.
1. Strong and accurate arm. He fit some throws into very tight windows and put the ball where it absolutely had to be. Some were criticizing the throw to Shepherd, but I thought he purposely put the ball there because if he led SS, the ball was getting tipped. So he there it where SS had a chance to make a play. His TD pass to EE required touch;
2. He kept at least 6-8 plays alive with his legs. And when he was moving he still kept his eyes down field
3. He made a number of throws where it looked like the pass went to his 2nd and even 3rd option. And he didn't seem to be rushing through his progressions.
Obviously, the fumbles were a problem, but one was a strip sack from behind, I didn't see how that was his fault. And I'm sorry let's not sugar coat the fact that Eli has had more than his shares of fumbles this year and in his career.
So all in alive I thought Smith was a positive and the offense was actually moving the ball at times, which is more than we can say has been occurring the last 4-5 weeks.
But sure, he played well.
not impressed.
this was predicted before the game, it happened in the game, and it will happen in the next game.
He wasn't drafted so highly because he's a no talent ass clown, he has skills, but he's also missing some attributes which is why he's a better backup than a starter.
So we’re wasting our time with him. The priority has to be getting a look at Webb. We’ve already disgraced Eli and the franchise to get Geno these meaningless looks. It’s about time this team did something productive.
They need to get Webb reps this week and start him next week. Ready or not, he needs to play.
Short of Aaron Rodgers nobody is actually going to play well with the number of talent/scheme challenges of this current offense.
this was predicted before the game, it happened in the game, and it will happen in the next game.
He wasn't drafted so highly because he's a no talent ass clown, he has skills, but he's also missing some attributes which is why he's a better backup than a starter.
Bingo. Nobody who’s watched him play before ever said he sucks. He can just always be counted on to turn it over just often enough to lose games
We didn't learn anything more about him (nor were we expected to). He didn't show that the system is better with a different guy
All it did was reinforce the idea that playing eli until Webb is ready to get snaps was the prudent move.
Also, the fact Reese has said zip since the Eli thing just proves what a weasel he is.
As if to say 'look at me now', pulling rank within seconds of getting annointed, and right away adding retribution to the mix .. made him look like a graceless POS .
Pass.
None of that is surprising, he hadn't played in 2 years. There was bound to be rust.
If you watched the game, you saw Geno's limitations. He had struggles running through the progressions and reading the defense. Raiders knew he'd go for the easy throws and kept tight man coverage where possible. Except for a few blown coverages by the Raiders and a couple nice throws, Geno didn't show me any wow factor or anything he can do that makes an offense much better.
The Raiders eventually sniffed out the bootlegs that Sullivan was occasionally integrating to let Smith swing out and try and get some time with his feet.
Engram made some really nice catches too to help Geno out. Keep in mind for three straight games with Eli, Engram was dropping passes left and right.
The Raiders outside of two pass rushers in Irvin and Mack have one of the worst defenses in football. Let's not go crazy folks.
-- The Raiders defense is terrible (ranked 32 by football outsiders)
-- Any Giants QB is playing without competent receivers, offensive lineman, or a running game
Overall, I thought the offense looked a lot like when Eli was playing. Unable to either run or protect the QB, which leads to lack of points. There were small tweaks that used Geno's mobility, but he's not Mike Vick.
I guess the point is that there are too many holes to see if Geno could be the starting QB. If you want to start him next year, fine. If not, fine. Ultimately, it will not matter until the surrounding cast is better.
And I say that as someone who likes Geno and thinks he's serviceable.
He did nothing more yesterday than what Eli's done all season in this putrid offense.
He's a good solid backup, nothing more.
If you watched the game, you saw Geno's limitations. He had struggles running through the progressions and reading the defense. Raiders knew he'd go for the easy throws and kept tight man coverage where possible. Except for a few blown coverages by the Raiders and a couple nice throws, Geno didn't show me any wow factor or anything he can do that makes an offense much better.
The Raiders eventually sniffed out the bootlegs that Sullivan was occasionally integrating to let Smith swing out and try and get some time with his feet.
Engram made some really nice catches too to help Geno out. Keep in mind for three straight games with Eli, Engram was dropping passes left and right.
The Raiders outside of two pass rushers in Irvin and Mack have one of the worst defenses in football. Let's not go crazy folks.
I'm not going "crazy." And we have played some really bad defenses the last few weeks and still couldn't do anything. And yes, the Raiders have and personnel, but this offense might have the worst personnel in the NFL.
Let's pray that EE is more mature than that.
not impressed.
Let's pray that EE is more mature than that.
This seems unfair
It is more than likely that EE, as a rookie, is inconsistent.
Let's pray that EE is more mature than that.
I really don't think EE was dogging it. Likely just going through a rough period. His draft profile says he has had issues with drops in the past.
Let's pray that EE is more mature than that.
Geno's first pass attempt was an incompletion to Evan Engram.
The fact that Webb still hasn't gotten reps in practice says how far he has to go to become an NFL starter. I'd be scared to put him into a game behind this OL...what a way to ruin a kid QB.
Eli would have gotten rid of the ball on one or both of the plays where Geno fumbled. The ability to read the defense and make a snap decision is a rare skill
Interesting comments or lack of comments from the coach regarding the fumbles and having to call timeouts in the red zone.
Nothing more.
Smith did not make you forget Manning or justify the change. Look what Garoppolo did yesterday, that is what should have been expected if you sat a HOF QB.
hard to put any stock in anything yesterday
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If anything at the QB position should be evaluated for 2018 it's Eli Manning without McAdoo's shitty offensive system.
Shepard also plays hard and his catch and run was in a soft defense along the sideline. The Raiders DB was just basically an security guard escorting him down the field running with him, it looked like that the DB was just staring him down the whole time down the field.
I'm glad those two guys showed they can make plays and some guys on defense can make some stops. All is good when Apple isn't playing.
However, benching Eli was to show they had a better shot with Geno and they still LOST. Raiders aren't that good of a team anyway.
Next year would likely be Eli's last with the Giants. They seem destined, at this point, to draft a QB and they aren't wrong to do so. Do you honestly think it's in the best interests of the franchise to have Geno Smith mentor Webb and a top pick, as opposed to Eli. Look back on 2004. When Eli was the incoming QB, they actually upgraded their veteran QB to have a guy like Warner mentor Eli. This would be the opposite, in downgrading your veteran.