1. They drafted DeShone Kizer in the 2nd round last year. Do they think he can be the QB of the future?
2. The Browns own the Texans first round pick which is likely a top 7 pick. This may prevent them from going QB with the number 1 pick assuming they may like Mayfield or Jackson.
Those are 2 important points if we are picking 2. I want Darnold & if he shows doubt for playing in CLE, it could pave the way for us *IF* he comes out.
They should grab a QB. If they don't, they trade the pick away to a team that will.
Reese fired from Giants
Reese becomes Browns GM
Reese hires Josh McDaniels
Sam Darnold stays in school another year
Reese and drafts Josh Rosen
Apparently, he looked pretty good yesterday.
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is playing terrible, really terrible. He's a rookie on a bad team so he isn't expected to light it up, but there's no way he's shown enough for them to pass on a top qb
Apparently, he looked pretty good yesterday.
No, he didn't.
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And I don't want to do so. We'd get into a bidding war. So much risk of QBs busting.
Kizer should have stayed in school. As the report notes, he throws to receivers not spots, which means he isn' "throwing teammates open." But he's also on a terrible team, so it's hard to evaluate him. The irony is that the same is probably true for Webb when he gets to play this season.
They already have a ton of picks and they don't seem to be able to use them properly to begin with nor develop players.
They more than any team in the NFL, needs Darnold or Rosen.
It's not rocket science. But Chief Strategy Officer DePodesta surely will try to make something up to hide the fact he doesn't know what the hell he is doing.
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their coveted QB, whoever that may be. They are in position to net a ton of picks for anyone that wants Darnold/Rosen.
They already have a ton of picks and they don't seem to be able to use them properly to begin with nor develop players.
They more than any team in the NFL, needs Darnold or Rosen.
It's not rocket science. But Chief Strategy Officer DePodesta surely will try to make something up to hide the fact he doesn't know what the hell he is doing.
It doesn't matter how they use them, but they will still command a ransom for the #1 overall pick. They aren't going to lessen their offer just because they have a bunch of other picks. Sooner or later their picks will pan out - you can never have too many.
Watched a bunch of that SD game yesterday on red zone. With Gordon back, they've actually got talent at the skill positions. A good QB would thrive in that offense IMO - Gordon, Coleman, I like their TE Django or whatever his name is, Crowell and the Duke is a solid change of pace back. Pretty good o-line too.
Speaking of Gordon - really hope he can keep his shit together. I thought he looked really impressive going against one of the top corners in the league and not having played in 3 years or whatever. I know he only caught 4 of 11 targets, but still had 85 yards and most of those incompletes were on Kizer.
-- Fire everyone
-- Trade down in the first round, acquiring as many high picks as possible.
-- Take the BPA in the 2018 draft, regardless of position except for QB.
-- Trade any vet player that can get you more premium picks
-- Go into 2018 knowing you are not going to contend, but hopefully some of the young guys show promise
-- Target a little more in the 2019 draft, based on what you know from the previous season.
-- Start contending end of 2019, with a view towards being a really good team in 2020.
Fun? Not really until the end of 2019. Worth it? Of course! This is not to say the Giants can't turn this around quicker. I just think building almost entirely through the draft makes for more sustainable success.
I think Kiser is that guy for now.
But that is not a good scenario for the Giants, Browns will trade out of the first pick.
The first pick will be a QB no matter what. (Browns or some other team).
Do the Giants trade up and secure the QB they want or sit back and take what is left?
They should grab a QB. If they don't, they trade the pick away to a team that will.
so are the Giants. All of our worst fears have been exposed. Sadly John Mara is more Fredo than Michael. They are a rudderless ship.
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their coveted QB, whoever that may be. They are in position to net a ton of picks for anyone that wants Darnold/Rosen.
They already have a ton of picks and they don't seem to be able to use them properly to begin with nor develop players.
They more than any team in the NFL, needs Darnold or Rosen.
It's not rocket science. But Chief Strategy Officer DePodesta surely will try to make something up to hide the fact he doesn't know what the hell he is doing.
It doesn't matter how they use them, but they will still command a ransom for the #1 overall pick. They aren't going to lessen their offer just because they have a bunch of other picks. Sooner or later their picks will pan out - you can never have too many.
They shouldnt trade the pick at all. Unless they get a stupid offer from some team like three 1sts, two 2s, a couple 3s.
When you win 2 superbowls during a tenure, you didnt get 'played' in any trade.
I also have serious concerns about Ben's ability to handle the NYC market... and Rivers' arm strength in the northeast versus in Southern Cal.
Finally - It worked out well for all 3 players and teams, IMO. At least none of the teams took Losman like Buffalo did. All have had splendid careers and done great things for their franchises.
When you win 2 superbowls during a tenure, you didnt get 'played' in any trade.
I also have serious concerns about Ben's ability to handle the NYC market... and Rivers' arm strength in the northeast versus in Southern Cal.
Finally - It worked out well for all 3 players and teams, IMO. At least none of the teams took Losman like Buffalo did. All have had splendid careers and done great things for their franchises.
Come on on Ben Im no fan of him personally but the guy has won just as many SB's and been in more. Rivers has been just as good as Eli and has beern surrounded by disorginization and lousy D's. I'm glad we got Eli but frankly I don't think having those 2 changes much.