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Jerry Reese Appreciation Thread

Britt in VA : 12/4/2017 11:42 am
Thank you for all you contributed to the two championships, especially the 2007 draft class.
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Thanks for  
djstat : 12/4/2017 11:45 am : link
Ereck FLowers. Eric...Erik...Ereck whatever
He played a huge role in two championship teams.  
bceagle05 : 12/4/2017 11:45 am : link
Once a Giant....
Very good scout  
Sammo85 : 12/4/2017 11:46 am : link
But terrible at roster management and configuration.

Was never on same page sometimes with coaches and it showed.

*Played a big part in drafting Tuck, Webster, Jacobs.

Midas Touch in the mid-rounds went downhill though as GM after the first Super Bowl.
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arcarsenal : 12/4/2017 11:46 am : link
Unlike McAdoo, Reese does deserve an appreciation thread. It was time to can him - but it wasn't all bad.

That said - I'm glad we're moving on. It's time.
Reese gave the Giants years of service  
Sneakers O'toole : 12/4/2017 11:47 am : link
And was a part of some historic highs. This thread is appropriate. The other clown losing a job today can fuck himself.
Reese deserves more appreciation than McAdoo  
dpinzow : 12/4/2017 11:47 am : link
more for his work prior to becoming GM (where he was awesome) than when he was GM (he was average). He was perhaps the best assistant GM in the NFL before being promoted to GM. I think it went wrong when Reese delegated a lot of his authority to Marc Ross and the talent evaluation crew while having to handle the greater responsibility.

Anyway, he deserves plaudits for helping build the 2 Super Bowl champions in the Eli era.
Thanks for the 2007 class  
ryanmkeane : 12/4/2017 11:47 am : link
and the guys drafted and signed that contributed to the SB 46 run.

Had a nice run, but ultimately botched draft after draft way too many times.
Thanks for the SBs Jerry  
gmen9892 : 12/4/2017 11:47 am : link
I dont think he was as bad as everyone made him out to be. Missed on the OL picks and had a ton of bad injury luck. I think he will get another job, but it was time to move on. Thanks Jerry and good luck elsewhere.
Great 2007 draft, picked Odell  
Section331 : 12/4/2017 11:47 am : link
higher than any draft analyst I saw had him going, Hakeem Nicks, Victor Cruz, LC...but far more misses than hits.

I'm sure he has a future somewhere as a draft consultant, but shouldn't be running the show. I wish him luck.
Thanks  
Joeguido : 12/4/2017 11:47 am : link
for all you did for this organization.
Additionally, Reese will find himself in another team's front office  
dpinzow : 12/4/2017 11:48 am : link
in 5 minutes, possibly even as a GM. McAdoo will have a tough time being anything higher than a position coach for a few years
To put it another way  
Greg from LI : 12/4/2017 11:48 am : link
If Reese hadn't been running the Giants drafts in 2003-07, they don't win two titles.
I thought he'd come close  
Moondawg : 12/4/2017 11:49 am : link
To exec of the year for that 2007 draft class.
I feel like we hardly knew him  
Enzo : 12/4/2017 11:49 am : link
With Ernie he was interviewed all the time and we all heard the same Bert Jones and Elway stories a hundred times. What did Reese give us besides stuttering and "blue goose"?
Unlike McAdoo, Reese at least has some real things to appreciate  
Matt M. : 12/4/2017 11:49 am : link
He was excellent prior to becoming GM. He inherited a good team and won 2 rings. For that, he deserves some credit. But, he must then also share a lot of the blame for the shitshow since the last SB, especially the drafts that followed.
Wish it had worked out better for Jerry Reese  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 12/4/2017 11:50 am : link
and the Giants. I think Jerry did some good things for the franchise, just not enough or consistently enough.
Some good, some bad.  
Beezer : 12/4/2017 11:50 am : link

No awful feelings about the guy. Just did not address things as they needed to be.

Best of luck.
Thanks for 2007 and 2011  
Pascal4554 : 12/4/2017 11:50 am : link
Jerry. Always believed you worked hard and carried yourself with class.
The overlap of EA and Reese won us two Super Bowls  
widmerseyebrow : 12/4/2017 11:51 am : link
He filled the holes of Ernie's roster but unfortunately couldn't replenish Ernie's strengths and it led to his downfall.
RE: To put it another way  
dpinzow : 12/4/2017 11:51 am : link
In comment 13722542 Greg from LI said:
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If Reese hadn't been running the Giants drafts in 2003-07, they don't win two titles.


Accorsi got Eli but Reese pretty much built the rest of that 2007 team and the entire 2011 team is his
I would take two Super Bowls from the next GM,  
Shirk130 : 12/4/2017 11:52 am : link
Thanks Jerry.
Fuck you Jerry for absolutely destroying the O-Line  
BlueHurricane : 12/4/2017 11:52 am : link
And wasting the prime of Eli's career.
Definitely doesn't deserve  
Kyle in NY : 12/4/2017 11:53 am : link
to be lumped in with McAdoo. Did a lot of good things for this franchise, but he really lost the plot since 2012. Seemed to have a great eye for certain positions like WR and struggled with others.

Still though, the talent on the roster during the great run from 2005-2011 is due in large part to the scouting network he helped build.

I'm grateful for what he contributed, but happy to be moving on.
might be best to repost this  
bluepepper : 12/4/2017 11:54 am : link
in a couple of days when passions have cooled a bit. Way too much non-appreciation in this thread. And snark about his stuttering, come on.
Jerry  
Dragon : 12/4/2017 11:54 am : link
Your fault was resigning Eli Manning, God Bless. This team will be a shit show for years, one door closes five more open.
Sucks how it ended  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 12/4/2017 11:54 am : link
But it had to end. In Reese We Trust was a mantra I succumbed to. But hiring McAdoo and never giving the Oline were too much to overcome. Not to mention our rushing attack has been dreadful thus decade.
He was a decent GM  
AnnapolisMike : 12/4/2017 11:55 am : link
Certainly had a hand in the Giants successes over the years and should be recognized for that when the dust settles.
Not only draft class  
Moondawg : 12/4/2017 11:56 am : link
But hitting on plax Kareem and pierce.
He'll always have 2007 and 2011 championship  
eclipz928 : 12/4/2017 11:57 am : link
years on his belt. 2008, 2012, and 2016 seasons weren't too bad either - just fell a little short. Definetly think he'll find success with another organization.
Eli pulled two rabbits out of the playoff hat...  
bw in dc : 12/4/2017 11:58 am : link
for two historic runs that netted 2 SBs.

Reese was a passenger - at best.

I think  
NYBEN1963 : 12/4/2017 11:59 am : link
we all should remember that JR was a part of this organization for a long time even before he took over as GM so his contributions go back a long way.
RE: Eli pulled two rabbits out of the playoff hat...  
dpinzow : 12/4/2017 12:02 pm : link
In comment 13722670 bw in dc said:
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for two historic runs that netted 2 SBs.

Reese was a passenger - at best.


Reese was officially the GM starting in 2007 but he largely built the team the last few years Accorsi was GM. He definitely carried out most of the GM roles in the Coughlin era when he was still working under Accorsi. Remember Accorsi and Coughlin were very frosty with each other (Ernie didn't want him), and Wellington Mara forced Accorsi to take TC. Due to Wellington's status, there was no way Accorsi would defy him in those days, so he remained GM. Accorsi got Eli but the rest of that 2007 team is Reese, and the 2011 team is Reese.

I think Reese failed where a lot of executives failed, by trusting the competence of his underlings to be the same as his. Marc Ross and the talent evaluation team under Reese definitely did a poor job and Reese took their assertions as valid advice when he should have been more controlling
Not a horrible GM  
AcesUp : 12/4/2017 12:02 pm : link
Especially if he learns from some of his missteps here. I hope and think he deserves another shot somewhere. Wish him the best. That said, it was certainly the right move for this organization.
RE: Not a horrible GM  
dpinzow : 12/4/2017 12:03 pm : link
In comment 13722721 AcesUp said:
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Especially if he learns from some of his missteps here. I hope and think he deserves another shot somewhere. Wish him the best. That said, it was certainly the right move for this organization.


He will get a job in 5 minutes. Not too many 2 time SB winning GMs are available for hire
2 Super Bowl Rings  
BigBlueHens : 12/4/2017 12:05 pm : link
Some stud players, but some busts and heartaches. I appreciate Reese, but it was time
The only reason Eli could pull a rabbit  
RollBlue : 12/4/2017 12:07 pm : link
out of his hat were because of guys like JPP and Cruz. Giving Reese some credit for the 2 Super Bowls is appropriate.
The team went 11-5 last year with an inferior roster. The bigger issue, IMO, is coaching.
I'm ok with moving on, I think it was probably necessary. However, those looking for better drafts/FA signings are probably going to be disappointed. Hopefully not having perfect drafts will be off set by improved coaching, which is huge in football at any level.
reese  
giantfan2000 : 12/4/2017 12:10 pm : link
he will definitely GM some where next year
my nightmare scenario

Reese becomes Browns GM
Reese hires Josh McDaniels
Sam Darnold stays in school another year
Reese drafts Josh Rosen
RE: reese  
dpinzow : 12/4/2017 12:12 pm : link
In comment 13722794 giantfan2000 said:
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he will definitely GM some where next year
my nightmare scenario

Reese becomes Browns GM
Reese hires Josh McDaniels
Sam Darnold stays in school another year
Reese drafts Josh Rosen


I think Reese will wait for the best GM job available, and Cleveland isn't it. His resume is actually pretty good
I doubt Reese immediately gets another GM job  
Greg from LI : 12/4/2017 12:14 pm : link
Probably has to take a job a notch lower - personnel director, assistant GM, something like that. I do think he'll get another crack in the near future, just not right away.
RE: Eli pulled two rabbits out of the playoff hat...  
mfsd : 12/4/2017 12:15 pm : link
In comment 13722670 bw in dc said:
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for two historic runs that netted 2 SBs.

Reese was a passenger - at best.


This is false. Eli doesn’t win those Super Bowls without Snee, Tuck, Jacobs, Webster, Diehl, Bradshaw, Osi, and several others. Reese deserves credit for those drafts, as well as deserving blame for the team rotting around Eli since 2012
I appreciate what Reese did before he was GM  
Mr. Bungle : 12/4/2017 12:17 pm : link
and then as GM. But his time had come, like Coughlin.

No one can take away his two rings. He earned them.
One of his last moves  
ltbeatsall56 : 12/4/2017 12:18 pm : link
Was drafting engram in the late first round. At least he left us with something positive.
well  
giantfan2000 : 12/4/2017 12:23 pm : link
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I think Reese will wait for the best GM job available, and Cleveland isn't it. His resume is actually pretty good


Cleveland has 1 and 7 first round next year
also they are franchise that is current terrible but have some decent young players
they have never won anything

it is perfect Reese position
How many Probowl players did he draft?  
weeg in the bronx : 12/4/2017 12:24 pm : link
Very few. His time as a Giant GM will likely be remembered for squandering Manning's golden years.
Best wishes, Jerry.  
Sarcastic Sam : 12/4/2017 12:55 pm : link
Thank you.

Best memories:
1. Odell Beckham (1)
2. Landon Collins (2)
3. Ahmad Bradshaw (7)
4. JPP (1)
5. Hakeem Nicks (1)

Worst memories:
5. Clint Sintim (2)
4. David Wilson (1)
3. Marvin Austin (2)
2. Ereck Flowers (1)
1. Eli Apple (1)
Thank You Jerry  
Alwaysblue22 : 12/4/2017 1:15 pm : link
For the Super Bowl countdown clock that was a joke, and blaming the players for buying into hype instead of blaming yourself, and for helping throw TC under the bus, and signing off on the ELi benching. Good riddance.
...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/4/2017 1:16 pm : link


Nothing anyone says can take away from this.
I took my son to the 2011 Super Bowl  
George from PA : 12/4/2017 1:17 pm : link
still one of the best expereinces we have ever had together....and you made it happen.

thanks
Thank you being a great Director of college scouting  
AnishPatel : 12/4/2017 1:17 pm : link
and that 2007 draft where you did the new GM job as well as your old job! Great draft!
Reese was a good manager, but his last 5 or 6 drafts were his undoing  
Rico : 12/4/2017 1:24 pm : link
He was an excellent cap manager who always negotiated hard to keep cap hits down, something his predecessor didn't do as well and that George Young didn't do at all. He considered all possibilities and was good at making many of them happen.

His scouting ability was a huge asset for us at first, but over the last 5 or 6 years he lost his touch, and that is ultimately what took him down. He ignored linebackers and drafted crappy offensive lineman, and he was too enamored with potential and ignored injury history. Our overly injured, not so talented young players were his downfall.

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