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Candidates with previous NFL HC experience

NYBEN1963 : 12/4/2017 11:48 am
I'm trying to think of some head coaching candidates around the league that have had head coaching experience that would be considered as a possible replacement. Ken Whisenhunt is one name that comes to mind another is Todd Haley both guys have shown themselves to be really good OC's with a lot of experience in the league and hopefully learned from their mistakes from when they where headcoaches . Who are some of the other coordinators that have had experience as a head coach that may be ready for a second shot. I know Spags can be put on the list but I really believe he is about to be fired and I do not think he would be an option anyway.
my first choice  
yankeeslover : 12/4/2017 11:49 am : link
honestly, i would look at Chucky.... I think Gruden would come here in a NY minute to work with Manning/Rookie qb
Josh McDaniels,  
Section331 : 12/4/2017 11:50 am : link
Mike Smith, Jim Schwartz, Pat Shurmer are a couple of guys who are working or recently worked in the NFL.
RE: my first choice  
PatersonPlank : 12/4/2017 11:50 am : link
In comment 13722557 yankeeslover said:
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honestly, i would look at Chucky.... I think Gruden would come here in a NY minute to work with Manning/Rookie qb


+1, Chucky for me too
Not Cowher  
BigBlue4You09 : 12/4/2017 11:51 am : link
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RE: my first choice  
Section331 : 12/4/2017 11:51 am : link
In comment 13722557 yankeeslover said:
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honestly, i would look at Chucky.... I think Gruden would come here in a NY minute to work with Manning/Rookie qb


I've heard that TB will bring him back, that he has mended fences with the Glazers. I'm not thrilled with hiring a guy who has been out of the league for over 10 years.
GM first then coach  
pjcas18 : 12/4/2017 11:51 am : link
IMO.

If I'm a head coach, no chance in hell I go anywhere until I know who the GM is and make sure he is one I can work with.

as for coach, no ancient relic retreads.

Maybe a one-time HC, but not looking for the hiring of the corpse of Dick Vermeil.
Pioli and McDaniels please  
jlukes : 12/4/2017 11:52 am : link
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FYI  
NYBEN1963 : 12/4/2017 11:53 am : link
I started writing this before the news of the firings came down.Sorry if it seems insensitive
Don't forget the college coaches  
larryflower37 : 12/4/2017 11:53 am : link
Saban, Harbaugh, Meyers, Shaw.
RE: Pioli and McDaniels please  
pjcas18 : 12/4/2017 11:54 am : link
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I'd take Caserio (in new england Belichick's entire time there pretty much) and McDaniels, or even prefer Caserio and Matt Patricia.
whomever for both spots better hit nail on head  
micky : 12/4/2017 11:54 am : link
very crucial hirings here
RE: RE: Pioli and McDaniels please  
jlukes : 12/4/2017 11:54 am : link
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I'd take Caserio (in new england Belichick's entire time there pretty much) and McDaniels, or even prefer Caserio and Matt Patricia.


I want a young offensive minded coach for a new QB
Gruden..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/4/2017 11:55 am : link
isn't going to want to face his brother in the division.

Not sure why this point is ignored when throwing his name out there.

Weird that these lists seem to have the same names on it from 10 years ago.
RE: Pioli and McDaniels please  
widmerseyebrow : 12/4/2017 11:55 am : link
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What? Pioli was an awful GM in KC.
NO RETREADS! Gruden is happy with his MNF gig,  
mikeinbloomfield : 12/4/2017 11:56 am : link
leave him there. Cowher isn't going anywhere either.

Let's hire an up-and-coming coordinator with new ideas who has something to prove. But first, let's get a GM who has an idea how to build in today's NFL, and also can find us this new coach and the players to execute his ideas.

Someone like Sean McVay in LA (which is ironic, given who his grandfather is). The Giants have a chance to hire people to build sustainable success, not guys who will be gone in two years when they are fully burnt out.
RE: RE: RE: Pioli and McDaniels please  
pjcas18 : 12/4/2017 11:58 am : link
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I'd take Caserio (in new england Belichick's entire time there pretty much) and McDaniels, or even prefer Caserio and Matt Patricia.



I want a young offensive minded coach for a new QB


Patricia is a rocket scientist, I think he can handle it, but get a young offensive minded OC for the QB.

Look at the Patriots defense by month...every year.

they are the epitome of coaching up players to know their roles/schemes

when they lost Hightower I thought they were done - especially with the slow start, they're hitting their stride now.
No college coaches.  
redwhiteandbigblue : 12/4/2017 12:08 pm : link
#1 Chucky- would be great with young QB's. #2 Mike Smith, #3 Scwatrz.

GM: Pioli.
Unless you're getting Belichick himself  
Greg from LI : 12/4/2017 12:09 pm : link
Then hell fuck no to anyone from the Patriots. No Wonderboy McDaniels, no Matt Patricia, no Nick Caserio, and for the love of all that is holy no Scott Pioli.
RE: Gruden..  
Matt M. : 12/4/2017 12:10 pm : link
In comment 13722632 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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isn't going to want to face his brother in the division.

Not sure why this point is ignored when throwing his name out there.

Weird that these lists seem to have the same names on it from 10 years ago.
Why are we so sure he doesn't want to face his brother? I wouldn't be surprised if it's true. But, he's never said that.
What I would target:  
Go Terps : 12/4/2017 12:11 pm : link
GM: Scott Pioli
HC: Mike Smith
OC: Gary Kubiak (a perfect fit if Eli is the quarterback)
DC: Jim Tomsula

These are all realistic targets.
we tried with a  
well...bye TC : 12/4/2017 12:11 pm : link
"hot assistant" and look what happened. THis time we need a sure bet - a proven NFL coach who has won. Cowher, Gruden etc. No more experiments w assnts or college right now.
RE: Unless you're getting Belichick himself  
Matt M. : 12/4/2017 12:11 pm : link
In comment 13722780 Greg from LI said:
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Then hell fuck no to anyone from the Patriots. No Wonderboy McDaniels, no Matt Patricia, no Nick Caserio, and for the love of all that is holy no Scott Pioli.
I agree.
Terps  
Greg from LI : 12/4/2017 12:12 pm : link
Why on earth would you want anything to do with Scott Pioli? He was an absolute disaster in Kansas City.
Someone who might be available is Marvin Lewis  
Hades07 : 12/4/2017 12:14 pm : link
What are the opinions of possibly bringing him to the Giants as head coach?
Greg  
Go Terps : 12/4/2017 12:18 pm : link
Was he? He drafted Eric Berry, Justin Houston, Dontari Poe, and a few other quality guys.

The issue may have been that he hired Todd Haley as head coach...which was forward thinking but might have been too early for him.
you named pretty much the only worthwhile players he drafted  
Greg from LI : 12/4/2017 12:21 pm : link
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Needs to be high floor guy  
Overseer : 12/4/2017 12:27 pm : link
It'd be great to find the next high ceiling "hot coordinator" Sean Mcvay type, but that's both more difficult and holds more potential for disaster.

The Giants are mess culturally in addition to sucking on the field. Need someone to steady the ship first & foremost.

I don't envy them because the choices seem uninspiring. There's seemingly not a Bill Parcells or even half of 1 out there who's gonna come in and make Quincy Carter look like a passable NFL QB.
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