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The problem with the the moves today

Stan in LA : 12/4/2017 1:04 pm
Is that the Giants might be sparked up to win a few meaningless games and blow a once in a lifetime top 3 pick. Although, all things considered, I'm happy with what was done.
Eh you can always trade up  
Sean : 12/4/2017 1:05 pm : link
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Danny Kanell : 12/4/2017 1:06 pm : link
While I agree to an extent, I dont think we are beating Dallas or Philly anyway. Maybe sneak in one more win but I doubt it.
RE: Eh you can always trade up  
Stan in LA : 12/4/2017 1:06 pm : link
In comment 13723230 Sean said:
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At a cost. The Giants were heading for a top 3 pick for free.
I wouldn't worry about that. It's not an enthusiasm thing.  
Victor in CT : 12/4/2017 1:06 pm : link
they y sinkbecause they don't have enough players and their offensive scheme is a joke.. They won't be implementing a new offense in 4 weeks. and every time they play is in the playoff race. Nobody will be letting down.
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MetsAreBack : 12/4/2017 1:07 pm : link
your average NFL team will pick 9 times in the top 3 over a lifetime. Not exactly 'once in a ..." -- i mean we were all alive when we got Eli in the first place right?

But I too am concerned we'll beat Dallas and another game to end this season. With SF playing better, there's no excuse not to nail down that #2 pick at this point! (and I'm holding out hope Cleveland, with Gordon back, can beat Rodgers-less GB at home and maybe take out Pittsburgh not playing for anything in week 17!)
I don't see this changing much  
BigBlue4You09 : 12/4/2017 1:08 pm : link
Too many injuries and not enough talent to win, regardless of motivation. Get that new coach a top 3 pick!
JPP is still not going to show up regardless of who is coaching  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 12/4/2017 1:09 pm : link
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Doubt it.  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/4/2017 1:10 pm : link
Still an awful team and we play 3 division opponents all of which are alot more talented then we are.
A top 3 pick would be great, but I  
NBGblue : 12/4/2017 1:12 pm : link
want wins over Dallas and Philly. One over the Skins would be nice too. NYG will likely still have a top 10 pick, and the draft is such a crap shoot that I'm OK with risking a higher pick for some gratification now. Haven't had much to cheer about this year, and dealing out come loses to Division rivals would feel mighty good long about now.
season is lost  
mdc1 : 12/4/2017 1:15 pm : link
need a QB in the draft, would like to spank the Eagles but that will not happen.
RE: Eh you can always trade up  
mphbullet36 : 12/4/2017 1:16 pm : link
In comment 13723230 Sean said:
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i hate this reasoning, the giants are in dire need of talent and you want to trade extremely valuable picks that will help this franchise for winning a few meaningless games?

makes no sense.

If we are picking 5th and need to move up to 2...you are willing to trade a few 2nd's or a future first to move up a few spots?

So a few meaningless wins are worth just throwing other picks in the trash, is basically what you are saying.
SF Will Win More Games  
Trainmaster : 12/4/2017 1:16 pm : link
I’d love still getting the 2nd overall pick without having to go 2-14. 3-13 maybe. 4-12 probably drops the Giants to 5th overall.
Now with Macadoo gone, Reese gone, and Eli Starting  
DennyInDenville : 12/4/2017 1:19 pm : link
I want wins
They are not winning the next 4 games  
larryflower37 : 12/4/2017 1:20 pm : link
If you can end strong from a culture stand point it is worth a spot or 2.
Plus it gives you a jump on GM/coaching candidate
More important than losing the last few games...  
TheEvilLurker : 12/4/2017 1:20 pm : link
is being able to establish some semblance of normality. This will help in attracting/keeping:

a new GM
a new head coach
Free Agents
Draft picks possibly (remember Eli?)
Current players

I think that outweighs losing games for the rest of the season to get a higher pick.

Right now, the front office looks like Mickey Mouse (or, maybe more apt, Goofy). Some sort of management goes a long way.
Unfortunately Spags can't fix  
RobCarpenter : 12/4/2017 1:22 pm : link
The OL by himself -- the running game is still terrible.

Plus no Jenkins, the LBs are injured/terrible, JPP hasn't done anything.

Agree with other posters that perhaps they win one more game against either Cowboys or Redskins.

Maybe a win vs the Cards  
Bluesbreaker : 12/4/2017 1:27 pm : link
but I would rather see Eli beat the Cowboys and lose to the Cards Skins Philthy .
However, the benefit to the moves today...  
Racer : 12/4/2017 1:27 pm : link
..are that December went from the 'West-Coast Silver-String, McAdoo-Geno Submarine Band' to a true audition by every guy on the roster for the 2018 NYG. Add to that an interim HC, no matter what you think of his scheme, who was able to get players to play their asses off in St Louis even as the walls were crumbling, and ANYONE to handle the roster other than the guy who believed the LB and RB positions can be filled from the bargain bin (nod to Sy'56).
I think the only game they have a shot at is the Cardinal game....  
Doomster : 12/4/2017 1:28 pm : link
and possibly the Washington game, if they continue to lose players....
Ain't happening  
montanagiant : 12/4/2017 1:28 pm : link
We don't have the firepower to score. We have one decent weapon in Engram
Giants fandom 2017:  
81_Great_Dane : 12/4/2017 1:32 pm : link
Fearing that the team might actually win a few games.
I'm ok if they win out ....  
Spider56 : 12/4/2017 2:06 pm : link
The draft is such a crap shoot that unless there's an LT on the board, it doesn't matter. I'm just happy I can root for them to win again ... yesterday was brutal conflict.
I don't always say thisbut I agree with Stan.  
Matt M. : 12/4/2017 2:08 pm : link
I have been one of the biggest proponents of firing both Reese and McAdoo for weeks now. But, I also was saying all week I wouldn't do it until immediately after the season. I really don't think there is much to gain today. Personally, I don't want anyone from the current staff to be the next HC and I don't think I want anyone from within the organization as GM. The damage was already done with Eli. I would use this as an opportunity to be true to the explanation and give Webb 4 games. That way they can truly evaluate him and not have a great shot at pulling out an upset or two. Sadly and realistically, the best thing for the franchise right now is to lose out and hope SF loses one more.
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