I'm really going to make some of you hiss with this one....

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by financial apology?

An extension?

Eli is under contract 2 more seasons, financially it always made the most sense to part ways after 2018.

It could be sped up, if anything, but I'm not sure what you mean by financial apology. I doubt the Giants do anything with Eli's contract.

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In comment 13723336 pjcas18 said:

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by financial apology? An extension? Eli is under contract 2 more seasons, financially it always made the most sense to part ways after 2018. It could be sped up, if anything, but I'm not sure what you mean by financial apology. I doubt the Giants do anything with Eli's contract.

A clever restructure that is beneficial to both parties, but guarantees more money to Eli that he would have normally gotten.

In comment 13723344 ron mexico said:

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On the 5th day of the new NFL year

Ding ding

Eli will be reinstalled, as he should, and begin his farewell tour in 2018. He's owed that for all he has accomplished, and what he had to endure this year. But, beyond that I don't see an"apology bonus". That is strange and we need to be responsible on how we allocate resources from here on out.

I don't believe Eli is overpaid, but there are too many guys on this team who unfortunately are.

over the next two years.

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Jesus H ... hail naw!!!

And I think this week cemented that Eli will retire when this contract is up.

I still think the odds on bet here is Eli plays for Jacksonville next season (with all respect to Bortles somewhat decent game yesterday)

Who better but Eli for Webb and possibly another drafted QB to learn under until they are ready?

Get a new coach, fix the OL and keep Eli as the #1 while his replacement learns. Not forcing his exit is in the Giants best interest.

but it's not an uncommon practice when a player has been wronged to thrown them a bone.

But, I don't believe they've ever wronged his wallet. He's always been well rewarded financially by this organization.

But I am charging you $10.00 for making me read this thread.

He's been overpaid for most of his career, why stop now?

I will give you credit that you did not join the madhouse crowd here that insisted Manning was 'done'. What a joke that turned out to be......

But more money? He's been paid a quarter billion by NYG. Or close to it.

In comment 13723349 Britt in VA said:

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In comment 13723336 pjcas18 said: Quote: by financial apology? An extension? Eli is under contract 2 more seasons, financially it always made the most sense to part ways after 2018. It could be sped up, if anything, but I'm not sure what you mean by financial apology. I doubt the Giants do anything with Eli's contract. A clever restructure that is beneficial to both parties, but guarantees more money to Eli that he would have normally gotten.

I see no reason the Giants would do that and Eli has zero leverage. His only option is to retire.

it wouldn't piss me off, just think it would be unnecessary and stupid.

I'm not advocating for it.

to the Mannings. And rename the stadium Manning Stadium. Paying him for the naming rights.

if Manning gets a restructure of any sort this offseason.

The difference between his salary and Geno's since the offense was just as if not more productive yesterday than it has since Beckham's injury

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We have good tight ends in place. Get him an offensive coordinator that focuses on protection, running the football, and passing downfield off play action.

I can't recommend Gary Kubiak enough for the offensive coordinator role.

In comment 13723349 Britt in VA said:

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In comment 13723336 pjcas18 said: Quote: by financial apology? An extension? Eli is under contract 2 more seasons, financially it always made the most sense to part ways after 2018. It could be sped up, if anything, but I'm not sure what you mean by financial apology. I doubt the Giants do anything with Eli's contract. A clever restructure that is beneficial to both parties, but guarantees more money to Eli that he would have normally gotten.

So pushing a massive cap hit further into the future and possibly making it larger?

They absolutely should.

if Eli still wants to be a Giant...which I believe he does.

I am sick and tired of the media blaming Elis "diminishing skills" Ask OBJ if his receiving records over his first three seasons would have been even greater if Eli hadn't sucked so much.

There are no guarantees that Webb is not the QB of the future, or that any of the guys in this draft are franchise QB's. Or that our final draft status will net us that guy.

tongue in cheek. That said, it's also not out of the realm of possibility.

The title admits it is a troll post. They have already paid him 185 million dollars.

They could guarantee his 2018 salary, their way of saying they have no intention of releasing him.

Bigger question is will Manning be OK keeping the bench warm for top QB pick?

I personally wouldn't saddle the incoming coach with this same issue next year.

Imagine December 2018 and the Giants are 2-9, with an uninspiring season at QB.

This could so easily happen again.

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if Manning gets a restructure of any sort this offseason.

I've been saying a financial apology is a possibility if he is to return under center this past week. If the no-win, drunk-driving McNabb could earn a financial apology, then Eli certainly should demand one. Not just a financial apology from the organization but a financial commitment that goes beyond the year to year option that exists on the remaining 2 years of his contract. The final 2 years of his contract contains $32M in unearned salary and bonuses. Next year alone his salary and bonus is $16M. So he should sit with the owners and work out a compromise. A restructure with a $25M signing bonus?

If the Giants are unwilling to compromise, then Eli should collect his $5M on the 3rd day (not the 5th like some have mentioned) of the league year and tell them that he will see them in September.

In comment 13723418 Go Terps said:

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We have good tight ends in place. Get him an offensive coordinator that focuses on protection, running the football, and passing downfield off play action. I can't recommend Gary Kubiak enough for the offensive coordinator role.

Good post, but I think if the Giants get a top five pick they will target the QB they like and Eli will be done in blue.

Hope I am wrong

In comment 13723458 Diver_Down said:

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In comment 13723398 Britt in VA said: Quote: if Manning gets a restructure of any sort this offseason. I've been saying a financial apology is a possibility if he is to return under center this past week. If the no-win, drunk-driving McNabb could earn a financial apology, then Eli certainly should demand one. Not just a financial apology from the organization but a financial commitment that goes beyond the year to year option that exists on the remaining 2 years of his contract. The final 2 years of his contract contains $32M in unearned salary and bonuses. Next year alone his salary and bonus is $16M. So he should sit with the owners and work out a compromise. A restructure with a $25M signing bonus? If the Giants are unwilling to compromise, then Eli should collect his $5M on the 3rd day (not the 5th like some have mentioned) of the league year and tell them that he will see them in September.

Agreed. I'm telling you.... People better be prepared for it.

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roots for Eli but not the Giants....Over hypes what Eli has done and now thinks the Giants owe him something....Overpaid for a decade is not enough?

on a 2-10 team is an awful idea.
I don't care how great he was 6 seasons ago.

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roots for Eli but not the Giants....Over hypes what Eli has done and now thinks the Giants owe him something....Overpaid for a decade is not enough?

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1% chance.

And, if they do manage to mend fences, I wouldn't offer an extension. I would be thinking about cutting him going into the last year of the deal.

I'm fine being alone on the idea. I was reading the tea leaves this past summer and realized that Eli's future was uncertain. I advocated Eli holding out while his cap hit prevented the organization from moving on from him. I was obviously alone on that one too. I'm good. I have big enough shoulders that I can take it.

In comment 13723553 Diver_Down said:

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I'm fine being alone on the idea. I was reading the tea leaves this past summer and realized that Eli's future was uncertain. I advocated Eli holding out while his cap hit prevented the organization from moving on from him. I was obviously alone on that one too. I'm good. I have big enough shoulders that I can take it.

Hey, I'm agreeing with you that it's a possibility.

A "financial apology" would be yet another notch in a belt full of reactionary, crappy logic.

This shouldn't be about money. Eli has been compensated very well as a Giant. I think the organization can restore a good relationship with Eli without an unnecessary gesture like this.

They'd be better served spending the money to put a better team around him.

In comment 13723562 Britt in VA said:

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In comment 13723553 Diver_Down said: Quote: I'm fine being alone on the idea. I was reading the tea leaves this past summer and realized that Eli's future was uncertain. I advocated Eli holding out while his cap hit prevented the organization from moving on from him. I was obviously alone on that one too. I'm good. I have big enough shoulders that I can take it. Hey, I'm agreeing with you that it's a possibility.

Good. 2 - For An Apology Everyone - Against.

Now we just need the New GM to focus on getting him some weapons. Finally. Lock him up long term.

People who are 100% that he's going to be capable into his 40s are out of their minds.

In comment 13723579 arcarsenal said:

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A "financial apology" would be yet another notch in a belt full of reactionary, crappy logic. This shouldn't be about money. Eli has been compensated very well as a Giant. I think the organization can restore a good relationship with Eli without an unnecessary gesture like this. They'd be better served spending the money to put a better team around him.

If the Giants are truthful in that they want to keep Eli until he retires and he has $32M in salary/bonuses remaining, then what is the harm in committing to those financial incentives? The contract contains $16M in salary and bonuses for next year. So if $16M is the floor and $32M is the ceiling, why can't a compromise be made since the Giants would likely pay the full $32M when he would retire?

In comment 13723377 Greg from LI said:

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He's been overpaid for most of his career, why stop now?

So the moron section is heard from, how much do you think two-time SB winning QB's make?

In comment 13723760 gmenatlarge said:

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In comment 13723377 Greg from LI said: Quote: He's been overpaid for most of his career, why stop now? So the moron section is heard from, how much do you think two-time SB winning QB's make?

That same moron section should consider starting FA quarterbacks (not cost controlled rookie contracts). For youth, there is Mike Glennon who signed for $14M/yr. For old (recently retired) never won anything, there is Jay Cutler at $10M/yr. Eli will earn a salary of $10.5M next year. To me, he is underpaid based on current market conditions.

have to determine Eli's future with the organization. I'm sorry for Eli, but that may very well mean he is cut pretty quick before the bonus is paid out.