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Mara: Ernie Accorsi will serve as consultant for GM search

BlueHurricane : 12/4/2017 2:04 pm
Just said in his presser.
F yeah  
spike : 12/4/2017 2:06 pm : link
Find our next Eli
Thats interesting.  
Brown Recluse : 12/4/2017 2:07 pm : link
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just get Ross and staf the hell out of the building  
Victor in CT : 12/4/2017 2:07 pm : link
open the windows and fumigate
The NY Giants are on the clock..  
Canton : 12/4/2017 2:07 pm : link
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Dave Gettleman  
Sammo85 : 12/4/2017 2:08 pm : link
has to be the leader in the clubhouse.
Love  
cokeduplt : 12/4/2017 2:09 pm : link
It
I bet it ends up being Kyle O'Brien  
jlukes : 12/4/2017 2:09 pm : link
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Ernie’s involvement consulting with other teams searching for a GM  
Ben in Tampa : 12/4/2017 2:12 pm : link
means he will be very familiar with all the candidates. Good move by Mara.
depressing  
Greg from LI : 12/4/2017 2:12 pm : link
The Giants ol' boys club rides again. Waste of an opportunity to breathe new life into a moribund organization.
YES!  
nzyme : 12/4/2017 2:13 pm : link
Thank god!!!
Gee, I wonder who suggested this on BBI  
That’s Gold, Jerry : 12/4/2017 2:13 pm : link
several weeks ago and got absolutely ripped for it.
Accorsi  
Matt in SGS : 12/4/2017 2:15 pm : link
has made a nice little extra career in retirement as GM interviewing head hunter/ guru. I really hope he recommends Burt Jones for a look see.
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arcarsenal : 12/4/2017 2:17 pm : link
I'm not necessarily against this - but don't forget that Accorsi was hired to do the same thing for the Bears not long ago and it really has not worked out at all.
Accorsi is reaching out to interview Kyle O'Brien for GM  
Slade : 12/4/2017 2:17 pm : link
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Accorsi could also want the Giants to back up the brinks truck  
dpinzow : 12/4/2017 2:18 pm : link
for Saban, since he wanted Saban as HC in 2004 and the Giants went with TC
Only a fool would be against Accorsi consulting in this decision  
Chris684 : 12/4/2017 2:19 pm : link
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Excellent move  
GiantTuff1 : 12/4/2017 2:19 pm : link
Ernie has a great feel for people, and for talent.
Francesa  
ryanmkeane : 12/4/2017 2:21 pm : link
was saying he would like O'Brien to be the guy. Thinks he's ready and has connections to the team obviously.
RE: Accorsi is reaching out to interview Kyle O'Brien for GM  
jvm52106 : 12/4/2017 2:22 pm : link
In comment 13723724 Slade said:
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If True, and god knows your rep isn't great, I would be cool with this. He is an upcoming guy with a solid background.
RE: Accorsi could also want the Giants to back up the brinks truck  
Matt in SGS : 12/4/2017 2:22 pm : link
In comment 13723729 dpinzow said:
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for Saban, since he wanted Saban as HC in 2004 and the Giants went with TC


He also wanted Saban in 1997 too.
No surprise  
GiantTuff1 : 12/4/2017 2:23 pm : link
O'Brien has the hair Accorsi covets

RE: RE: Accorsi could also want the Giants to back up the brinks truck  
dpinzow : 12/4/2017 2:23 pm : link
In comment 13723740 Matt in SGS said:
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for Saban, since he wanted Saban as HC in 2004 and the Giants went with TC



He also wanted Saban in 1997 too.


He wasn't GM in 1997 (George Young was)
RE: Accorsi is reaching out to interview Kyle O'Brien for GM  
est1986 : 12/4/2017 2:23 pm : link
In comment 13723724 Slade said:
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Why would we want the personnel guy from the Detriot Lions? What has he done?
I'm not sure I love Saban for HC  
GiantTuff1 : 12/4/2017 2:24 pm : link
Guy is 66, gonna be 67...

Is he going to be long for us here?
O'Brien  
ryanmkeane : 12/4/2017 2:25 pm : link
isn't the GM for the Lions. He's well respected around the league as a GM in the making.
RE: F yeah  
Gatorade Dunk : 12/4/2017 2:26 pm : link
In comment 13723643 spike said:
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Find our next Eli

I hope he uncovers all the same rocks that he did to find the consensus no-doubt #1 overall QB prospect in Eli. Quite the detective job he did on that one.
RE: Excellent move  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/4/2017 2:27 pm : link
In comment 13723731 GiantTuff1 said:
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Ernie has a great feel for people, and for talent.


Well other than Carolina. And maybe it's being overly critical, but he did recommended Reese as well.
I won't pretend to know anything about Kyle O'Brien  
Greg from LI : 12/4/2017 2:27 pm : link
But I can't say that raiding the Lions' front office for executives is something that appeals to me.
Mara said they had names  
ECham : 12/4/2017 2:28 pm : link
of people they could bring in right away... John Dorsey formerly of Kansas City should be a name.
Pretty sure O’Brien is a Belichick guy  
Sean : 12/4/2017 2:28 pm : link
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So how were the candidates that he recommended for the other clubs  
rasbutant : 12/4/2017 2:29 pm : link
that didn't get hired.
RE: Accorsi is reaching out to interview Kyle O'Brien for GM  
Gatorade Dunk : 12/4/2017 2:29 pm : link
In comment 13723724 Slade said:
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I've given you a lot of crap, but I hope you're right on this one. O'Brien would be a really solid choice.
RE: RE: RE: Accorsi could also want the Giants to back up the brinks truck  
Matt in SGS : 12/4/2017 2:30 pm : link
In comment 13723746 dpinzow said:
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In comment 13723729 dpinzow said:


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for Saban, since he wanted Saban as HC in 2004 and the Giants went with TC



He also wanted Saban in 1997 too.



He wasn't GM in 1997 (George Young was)


True, but he was the assistant GM and the Giants were beginning to push George out the door. Everyone knew that 1997 was his final year as GM and that coach would be his final pick, but Accorsi was going to be part of the future with that coach, so he had a lot of say in the selection.
Slade is wrong about almost everything  
Heisenberg : 12/4/2017 2:30 pm : link
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RE: I won't pretend to know anything about Kyle O'Brien  
Ace718 : 12/4/2017 2:30 pm : link
In comment 13723764 Greg from LI said:
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But I can't say that raiding the Lions' front office for executives is something that appeals to me.


I believe this is his second year with Lions. He's spent 10 years in the Pats organization, starting as an intern while in college. Then he was at Jacksonville for a few years and was in charge of college scouting. He helped build the current Jags.
I'm not encouraged that Accorsi is involved, frankly  
Heisenberg : 12/4/2017 2:31 pm : link
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RE: RE: I won't pretend to know anything about Kyle O'Brien  
Sammo85 : 12/4/2017 2:32 pm : link
In comment 13723790 Ace718 said:
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But I can't say that raiding the Lions' front office for executives is something that appeals to me.



I believe this is his second year with Lions. He's spent 10 years in the Pats organization, starting as an intern while in college. Then he was at Jacksonville for a few years and was in charge of college scouting. He helped build the current Jags.


He was behind the Bortles pick actually. Not a good mark.
Francesa just mentioned  
viggie : 12/4/2017 2:33 pm : link
O'brien is the son of a former Giants surgeon from 10 years ago
Fair enough  
Greg from LI : 12/4/2017 2:33 pm : link
Jax has drafted reasonably well, I suppose, although they were picking damned high in that period.
RE: I'm not sure I love Saban for HC  
BlackLight : 12/4/2017 2:34 pm : link
In comment 13723751 GiantTuff1 said:
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Guy is 66, gonna be 67...

Is he going to be long for us here?


Apart from his age, I'm concerned that Saban appears to have bailed on his last NFL gig. It gives the impression that he's an opportunist, which isn't what we need right now.
O'Brien  
Pete in MD : 12/4/2017 2:34 pm : link
is also a Harvard alum who's from Long Island originally.
O'Brien bio  
Matt in SGS : 12/4/2017 2:38 pm : link
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Lions Vice President of Player Personnel Kyle O’Brien enters his 16th season in the National Football League and his second in Detroit. In his first season with the Lions, O’Brien played an integral role in helping construct a playoff roster in 2016. Under his direction, the personnel department assisted in acquiring a draft class that combined for a total of 108 games played and 37 total starts. Detroit’s 2016 draft class included first-round selection (16th overall) Taylor Decker, who started in all 16 games at left tackle as one of only 17 players in the NFL to play 100 percent of the team’s snaps in 2016. In addition to the early rookie contributions, O’Brien was instrumental during the offseason as he worked closely with Lions Executive Vice President and General Manager Bob Quinn during the 2016 NFL Free Agency period. With O’Brien’s assistance, Quinn and the personnel department have continued their success in bolstering the Lions’ roster with this year’s free agency acquisitions, highlighted by Pro Bowl G T.J. Lang and veteran T Rick Wagner.

Over the span of his NFL career, O’Brien has worked in player personnel for four different teams in capacities that covered both pro and college scouting. Prior to Detroit, O’Brien was with the Jacksonville Jaguars as director of college scouting for that past three seasons (2013-15). Under O’Brien’s guidance, the Jaguars acquired a nucleus of young talent that included QB Blake Bortles (third overall) and WR Allen Robinson (61st overall) as the team’s first- and second-round picks in the 2014 NFL Draft. Robinson was named to the 2016 Pro Bowl, while WR Allen Hurns, an undrafted rookie free agent in 2014, set the NFL record for the most touchdown receptions by an undrafted player in a player’s first two seasons (16). Prior to his time in Jacksonville, O’Brien spent one season as a national scout with the Kansas City Chiefs in 2012.

For 10 seasons (2002-11), O’Brien served in various roles within the New England Patriots player personnel department. The Patriots elevated O’Brien to national scout in his final two seasons (2010-11) in New England after his time as an area scout that covered five seasons (2002, 2006-09). In 2004-05, he was the Patriots’ pro personnel scout.

A graduate of Harvard where he lettered in lacrosse, O’Brien originally joined the Patriots as a player personnel intern in 2000 and continued those duties during the Patriots’ first Super Bowl season in 2001 while still attending Harvard. He began his NFL career as an intern with the New York Jets player personnel department in 1999.

O’Brien is a native of Garden City, N.Y. He and his wife, Alexis, together have a son, Finn.


A few notes on O'Brien from this. He's a Patriots guy essentially. Learned under Belichick and Pioli, both of whom have Giants connections. So that is a huge plus. The Giants and Patriots organization has interchanged coaches and front office people for many years, going back to Parcells and Erhardt from the 1970s.

And he also knows how to sign free agent offensive lineman, as he did in Detroit. Which is a good thing to have in a NYG GM, wouldn't you say?
RE: I bet it ends up being Kyle O'Brien  
Gmen4Life21 : 12/4/2017 2:39 pm : link
In comment 13723672 jlukes said:
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What so good about O’Brien? What has he done with Det the past two years? What did he do for Jax before that? I don’t know much at all about him.

What I do know is: A-Rob is a beast. Bortles and Yeldon are major whiffs, Fowler hasn’t gotten on the field much. The draft is much easier when you’re top 3, and they still whiffed, twice, in two years.
Cool  
Glover : 12/4/2017 2:40 pm : link
Maybe 8 weeks late in starting, but I like it.
They should also be in contact with Parcels for advice, if he is willing to give it.
RE: Dave Gettleman  
Glover : 12/4/2017 2:41 pm : link
In comment 13723666 Sammo85 said:
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has to be the leader in the clubhouse.


No fucking way. Guy was so full of himself he made bold moves, and got himself fired. He was a hard headed asshole. Not welcome back.
RE: O'Brien  
Gmen4Life21 : 12/4/2017 2:41 pm : link
In comment 13723755 ryanmkeane said:
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isn't the GM for the Lions. He's well respected around the league as a GM in the making.

He was in charge of the Jags draft from 2014-2015.
RE: RE: Dave Gettleman  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/4/2017 2:44 pm : link
In comment 13723842 Glover said:
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has to be the leader in the clubhouse.



No fucking way. Guy was so full of himself he made bold moves, and got himself fired. He was a hard headed asshole. Not welcome back.


I mean he made some good moves.
Sy'56  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/4/2017 2:45 pm : link
for GM... make it happen Ernie
RE: Accorsi could also want the Giants to back up the brinks truck  
Beer Man : 12/4/2017 2:45 pm : link
In comment 13723729 dpinzow said:
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for Saban, since he wanted Saban as HC in 2004 and the Giants went with TC
That was 13 years ago and Saban is close to retirement age.
one question  
Matt in SGS : 12/4/2017 2:45 pm : link
why would the Lions let their head of player personnel leave prior to their own draft? Don't they have the same challenges as the Giants do to get their board set up and why they likely have left Ross in place now? Normally when you have a front office transition, it's too late to junk all the reports from the scouts, so they stay through the draft and get let go after it.

I get that it's a promotion, but what would stop the Lions from simply rejecting the Giants request to interview?
RE: Francesa  
Glover : 12/4/2017 2:46 pm : link
In comment 13723738 ryanmkeane said:
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was saying he would like O'Brien to be the guy. Thinks he's ready and has connections to the team obviously.

What connections to the team?
RE: RE: O'Brien  
Breeze_94 : 12/4/2017 2:48 pm : link
In comment 13723843 Gmen4Life21 said:
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isn't the GM for the Lions. He's well respected around the league as a GM in the making.


He was in charge of the Jags draft from 2014-2015.


In 2014, the Jags drafted Bortles 3rd overall...in 2015 they took Dante Fowler 3rd overall. The 2nd rounders in those years were TJ Yeldon and Marquise Lee...not a very good haul for 4 top 39 picks
One other thing to keep in mind  
Matt in SGS : 12/4/2017 2:48 pm : link
if there is any truth to Josh McDaniels as the head coach rumors, he and O'Brien already had a working relationship in New England.
RE: one question  
Sammo85 : 12/4/2017 2:48 pm : link
In comment 13723854 Matt in SGS said:
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why would the Lions let their head of player personnel leave prior to their own draft? Don't they have the same challenges as the Giants do to get their board set up and why they likely have left Ross in place now? Normally when you have a front office transition, it's too late to junk all the reports from the scouts, so they stay through the draft and get let go after it.

I get that it's a promotion, but what would stop the Lions from simply rejecting the Giants request to interview?


No. It would be seen as a major negative on them as a team and lead to other teams responding in kind against them in future situations. The NFL also would put pressure on them.

I also suspect O'Brien's deputy could take over. There's some redundancy now in front offices in terms of administration and role responsibility (as opposed to years past in the old days).

Either way, I'm not fully sold on O'Brien. I want to know what kind of vision he has for a football team in terms of it's talent, it's coaching needs, it's schemes, etc.
RE: one question  
Gmen4Life21 : 12/4/2017 2:49 pm : link
In comment 13723854 Matt in SGS said:
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why would the Lions let their head of player personnel leave prior to their own draft? Don't they have the same challenges as the Giants do to get their board set up and why they likely have left Ross in place now? Normally when you have a front office transition, it's too late to junk all the reports from the scouts, so they stay through the draft and get let go after it.

I get that it's a promotion, but what would stop the Lions from simply rejecting the Giants request to interview?

I think because it’s a promotion is enough. Teams should let their own interview for a promotion. They could reject, but it’s kind of understood you don’t block an opportunity if it’s a promotion.
O'Brien  
burtmanjack : 12/4/2017 2:49 pm : link
is a fellow Harvard grad. So would be no complaint from me.
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Banks : 12/4/2017 2:50 pm : link
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True, but he was the assistant GM and the Giants were beginning to push George out the door. Everyone knew that 1997 was his final year as GM and that coach would be his final pick, but Accorsi was going to be part of the future with that coach, so he had a lot of say in the selection.

EA really wanted Saban. I recall him not really wanting Fassel, but accepting it. All I could find is this snippet from EA.

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“George was impressed with Saban; we went and interviewed him,” Accorsi said. “I didn’t know Jim. I never had a problem with him. Was he my choice? No. Would he have been my choice? Probably not. But I thought we cooperated.”

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What an outstanding idea!  
Fishmanjim57 : 12/4/2017 2:50 pm : link
I like Ernie, and I respect his input with this decision!
RE: One other thing to keep in mind  
Greg from LI : 12/4/2017 2:51 pm : link
In comment 13723865 Matt in SGS said:
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if there is any truth to Josh McDaniels as the head coach rumors




Also, looking at those 2014-15 Jags drafts....I am not inspired with confidence in Kyle O'Brien.
RE: RE: RE: O'Brien  
Gmen4Life21 : 12/4/2017 2:52 pm : link
In comment 13723864 Breeze_94 said:
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isn't the GM for the Lions. He's well respected around the league as a GM in the making.


He was in charge of the Jags draft from 2014-2015.



In 2014, the Jags drafted Bortles 3rd overall...in 2015 they took Dante Fowler 3rd overall. The 2nd rounders in those years were TJ Yeldon and Marquise Lee...not a very good haul for 4 top 39 picks

Yes that’s my point and exactly what I said just a few posts prior to that. Running Jags draft from 2014-2015 isn’t a positive mark in my opinion.
RE: RE: RE: O'Brien  
Sammo85 : 12/4/2017 2:55 pm : link
In comment 13723864 Breeze_94 said:
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isn't the GM for the Lions. He's well respected around the league as a GM in the making.


He was in charge of the Jags draft from 2014-2015.



In 2014, the Jags drafted Bortles 3rd overall...in 2015 they took Dante Fowler 3rd overall. The 2nd rounders in those years were TJ Yeldon and Marquise Lee...not a very good haul for 4 top 39 picks


Lee is playing well actually. Quite well.

The Bortles evaluation/development questions would be a must. Fowler was drooled over by everybody in the draft process. Development would be my question there. Fowler is contributing though, albeit with a ton of elite talent alongside him now.

Yeldon was a pick O'Brien loved but it hasn't worked.
Is Spags a goner?  
M.S. : 12/4/2017 2:55 pm : link
Yea, on the one hand, he get to play head coach for 4 more games; on the other hand, what are the odds they turn over the Head Coaching job to him full time?

And if he doesn't get the job full time, what are the odds a new Head Coach will keep Spags on as DC?

Leave Ross in place  
Bill in TN : 12/4/2017 2:58 pm : link
Then interview him to satisfy the Rooney Rule and kick his butt out the door. Keep Abrams for cap management.
RE: Is Spags a goner?  
Sammo85 : 12/4/2017 2:59 pm : link
In comment 13723908 M.S. said:
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Yea, on the one hand, he get to play head coach for 4 more games; on the other hand, what are the odds they turn over the Head Coaching job to him full time?

And if he doesn't get the job full time, what are the odds a new Head Coach will keep Spags on as DC?


Minimal at best on both accounts.
Chris Mara not a candidate  
BigBlue4You09 : 12/4/2017 3:02 pm : link
Phew
RE: Is Spags a goner?  
Victor in CT : 12/4/2017 3:07 pm : link
In comment 13723908 M.S. said:
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Yea, on the one hand, he get to play head coach for 4 more games; on the other hand, what are the odds they turn over the Head Coaching job to him full time?

And if he doesn't get the job full time, what are the odds a new Head Coach will keep Spags on as DC?


Let's hope ZERO chance of either. Drop him out the chute right after Ross.
George Paton  
GeneInCal : 12/4/2017 3:10 pm : link
with the Vikes. I went to HS with his wife.
Gene in SoCal  
Bill L : 12/4/2017 3:11 pm : link
We probably should all go back to our Accorsi-day handles until we get a new GM. Like throwback uniforms.
Didn't Anak  
Matt in SGS : 12/4/2017 3:21 pm : link
chase Ernie around Manhattan for a few blocks a few years ago and creep him out in a coffee shop or something?
RE: I won't pretend to know anything about Kyle O'Brien  
Matt M. : 12/4/2017 3:23 pm : link
In comment 13723764 Greg from LI said:
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But I can't say that raiding the Lions' front office for executives is something that appeals to me.
My first thought exactly.
Great news Accorsi  
RetroJint : 12/4/2017 3:26 pm : link
will assist with the hiring process. Excellent head hunter. Left to his own devices , he wanted Charlie Weis to be Giants HC. This gets better every passing hour with these guys.
RE: Didn't Anak  
Greg from LI : 12/4/2017 3:28 pm : link
In comment 13724009 Matt in SGS said:
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chase Ernie around Manhattan for a few blocks a few years ago and creep him out in a coffee shop or something?


Yes!

As opposed to Natefit, who said he saw Accorsi walking his dog but treated the location as if it were TS/SCI classified info.
to be fair, in 2003 Charlie Weis was a hot commodity. As was  
Victor in CT : 12/4/2017 3:29 pm : link
Romeo Crennel. 15 years later, we're still waiting for one of BBs assistants to be the next great head coach.
RE: Didn't Anak  
McNally's_Nuts : 12/4/2017 3:29 pm : link
In comment 13724009 Matt in SGS said:
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chase Ernie around Manhattan for a few blocks a few years ago and creep him out in a coffee shop or something?


Yes. Ernie is my friends neighbor. I've met him more than once. Kind of a gruff dude.
RE: RE: Didn't Anak  
McNally's_Nuts : 12/4/2017 3:30 pm : link
In comment 13724028 Greg from LI said:
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chase Ernie around Manhattan for a few blocks a few years ago and creep him out in a coffee shop or something?



Yes!

As opposed to Natefit, who said he saw Accorsi walking his dog but treated the location as if it were TS/SCI classified info.


I'm not Natefit, but that has happened more than once to me. Like I said previously, he is my friends neighbor.
RE: Great news Accorsi  
christian : 12/4/2017 3:36 pm : link
In comment 13724021 RetroJint said:
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will assist with the hiring process. Excellent head hunter. Left to his own devices , he wanted Charlie Weis to be Giants HC. This gets better every passing hour with these guys.


It gets hard to remember who gets credit for hiring Coughlin and putting together the roster for the 2005-11 run. Was it the unbelievable incompetence of Accorsi, Reese, Mara or Tisch.

Maybe Coughlin hired himself?
Accorsi hooked the Bears up with Fox.  
Heisenberg : 12/4/2017 3:46 pm : link
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Relax guys  
Modus Operandi : 12/4/2017 3:53 pm : link
If Accorsi didn't want to be stalked, he should be never step foot outside his house. Totally asking for it.
RE: RE: Great news Accorsi  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/4/2017 3:55 pm : link
In comment 13724052 christian said:
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will assist with the hiring process. Excellent head hunter. Left to his own devices , he wanted Charlie Weis to be Giants HC. This gets better every passing hour with these guys.



It gets hard to remember who gets credit for hiring Coughlin and putting together the roster for the 2005-11 run. Was it the unbelievable incompetence of Accorsi, Reese, Mara or Tisch.

Maybe Coughlin hired himself?


Accorsi didn't hire Coughlin. He specifically didn't want to hire Coughlin. Wellington hired Coughlin. Accorsi wanted Coughlin fired by 2006.
Seems like a very smart move  
RobCarpenter : 12/4/2017 3:59 pm : link
Hopefully the new GM can also politely get rid of Chris Mara.

anyone who can speak the english language at this point will  
gtt350 : 12/4/2017 4:00 pm : link
be and improvement
At least Ernie  
bceagle05 : 12/4/2017 4:02 pm : link
will spare us the Joe Paterno ass-kissing this time around, right?
Giants GM  
Giantslifer : 12/4/2017 4:02 pm : link
How do I get on this list?

Draft strategy - Draft BEEF
Trade strategy - Don't trade with dallas or NE
Media strategy - stay unreachable
Coach - Young guy who has really forward ideas
Didn't The Rug tap Reese?  
TC : 12/4/2017 4:15 pm : link
What, does he get a do over!?
RE: RE: Didn't Anak  
UESBLUE : 12/4/2017 4:39 pm : link
In comment 13724028 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13724009 Matt in SGS said:


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chase Ernie around Manhattan for a few blocks a few years ago and creep him out in a coffee shop or something?



Yes!

As opposed to Natefit, who said he saw Accorsi walking his dog but treated the location as if it were TS/SCI classified info.

I think he said it was on the upper east side somewhere. ;)
RE: Didn't The Rug tap Reese?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/4/2017 4:59 pm : link
In comment 13724179 TC said:
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What, does he get a do over!?


Reese has been with the franchise since 94 or 97. But he was the recommendation to replace Accorsi himself.
With Accorsi leading the search  
mikeinbloomfield : 12/4/2017 5:14 pm : link
Gettleman has to be the leading contender. As ESPN noted, the Panthers went 48-27 under his tenure. You could certainly do worse than a guy who's been in NY before, and has had success as a GM.

RE: With Accorsi leading the search  
Greg from LI : 12/4/2017 5:16 pm : link
In comment 13724315 mikeinbloomfield said:
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Gettleman has to be the leading contender. As ESPN noted, the Panthers went 48-27 under his tenure. You could certainly do worse than a guy who's been in NY before, and has had success as a GM.


Almost all of the talent on the Panthers' good teams under Gettleman was in place before he got there.
They thought so much of Dave Gettleman  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/4/2017 5:25 pm : link
that they fired him and re-hired the General Manager who created the mess Gettleman was hired to fix.
RE: RE: Accorsi could also want the Giants to back up the brinks truck  
micky : 12/4/2017 5:29 pm : link
In comment 13723740 Matt in SGS said:
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for Saban, since he wanted Saban as HC in 2004 and the Giants went with TC



He also wanted Saban in 1997 too.




I wouldn't mind this..plus, he as a better idea of college players after having coach there (a la Pete Carroll when he came back into the NFL again) come draft time.
Spags will get a try out.....  
Simms11 : 12/4/2017 5:30 pm : link
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RE: Didn't The Rug tap Reese?  
TyreeHelmet : 12/4/2017 6:08 pm : link
In comment 13724179 TC said:
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What, does he get a do over!?


Is that definitely a toupee? Always wondered that. I'm guessing Mike Lombardi has a rug too.
This is weird  
mrvax : 12/4/2017 7:26 pm : link
I actually suggested this here on BBI about a month ago. I also suggested Parcells too.
Let Bill rest.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/4/2017 7:33 pm : link
I'd be worried for his health at this point. He's 76 and doesn't exactly sound great.
Ernie  
Dragon : 12/4/2017 8:36 pm : link
Will save the day play QB this weekend can’t be any worse than Eli.
Parcells  
Dragon : 12/4/2017 8:37 pm : link
Won’t save the day but can backup JPP.
Hiring the new, youngish  
mikeygiants : 12/4/2017 9:47 pm : link
guy didn't work out so well last time, I wouldn't be so sure we're looking for young blood in a coach.
Here’s one prediction you can take to the bank:  
Big Blue Blogger : 12/4/2017 9:50 pm : link
Whichever candidate the Giants ultimately hire, Ernie will tell his media friends that the new GM’s interview was the best he’s ever seen, and that ownership was blown away.

If his recent consulting gigs are any indication, Ernie seems to like slim, handsome first-time GMs, in their late 30s / early 40s, from a personnel background.

I don’t think Gettleman will be a serious candidate, and I don’t think Abrams will make the final cut. Accorsi may have recommended a retread coach like Fox, but he seems to pride himself on picking the new generation of GMs.
RE: RE: With Accorsi leading the search  
Jay on the Island : 12/4/2017 9:53 pm : link
In comment 13724320 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13724315 mikeinbloomfield said:


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Gettleman has to be the leading contender. As ESPN noted, the Panthers went 48-27 under his tenure. You could certainly do worse than a guy who's been in NY before, and has had success as a GM.




Almost all of the talent on the Panthers' good teams under Gettleman was in place before he got there.

Absolutely right. Gettleman received a lot of the credit despite not picking their top players. I am not saying that he did a bad job but he neglected the offensive line despite the obvious need for upgrades.
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