I'm not necessarily against this - but don't forget that Accorsi was hired to do the same thing for the Bears not long ago and it really has not worked out at all.
Accorsi is reaching out to interview Kyle O'Brien for GM Â
I hope he uncovers all the same rocks that he did to find the consensus no-doubt #1 overall QB prospect in Eli. Quite the detective job he did on that one.
for Saban, since he wanted Saban as HC in 2004 and the Giants went with TC
He also wanted Saban in 1997 too.
He wasn't GM in 1997 (George Young was)
True, but he was the assistant GM and the Giants were beginning to push George out the door. Everyone knew that 1997 was his final year as GM and that coach would be his final pick, but Accorsi was going to be part of the future with that coach, so he had a lot of say in the selection.
But I can't say that raiding the Lions' front office for executives is something that appeals to me.
I believe this is his second year with Lions. He's spent 10 years in the Pats organization, starting as an intern while in college. Then he was at Jacksonville for a few years and was in charge of college scouting. He helped build the current Jags.
I'm not encouraged that Accorsi is involved, frankly Â
But I can't say that raiding the Lions' front office for executives is something that appeals to me.
I believe this is his second year with Lions. He's spent 10 years in the Pats organization, starting as an intern while in college. Then he was at Jacksonville for a few years and was in charge of college scouting. He helped build the current Jags.
He was behind the Bortles pick actually. Not a good mark.
Apart from his age, I'm concerned that Saban appears to have bailed on his last NFL gig. It gives the impression that he's an opportunist, which isn't what we need right now.
Lions Vice President of Player Personnel Kyle O’Brien enters his 16th season in the National Football League and his second in Detroit. In his first season with the Lions, O’Brien played an integral role in helping construct a playoff roster in 2016. Under his direction, the personnel department assisted in acquiring a draft class that combined for a total of 108 games played and 37 total starts. Detroit’s 2016 draft class included first-round selection (16th overall) Taylor Decker, who started in all 16 games at left tackle as one of only 17 players in the NFL to play 100 percent of the team’s snaps in 2016. In addition to the early rookie contributions, O’Brien was instrumental during the offseason as he worked closely with Lions Executive Vice President and General Manager Bob Quinn during the 2016 NFL Free Agency period. With O’Brien’s assistance, Quinn and the personnel department have continued their success in bolstering the Lions’ roster with this year’s free agency acquisitions, highlighted by Pro Bowl G T.J. Lang and veteran T Rick Wagner.
Over the span of his NFL career, O’Brien has worked in player personnel for four different teams in capacities that covered both pro and college scouting. Prior to Detroit, O’Brien was with the Jacksonville Jaguars as director of college scouting for that past three seasons (2013-15). Under O’Brien’s guidance, the Jaguars acquired a nucleus of young talent that included QB Blake Bortles (third overall) and WR Allen Robinson (61st overall) as the team’s first- and second-round picks in the 2014 NFL Draft. Robinson was named to the 2016 Pro Bowl, while WR Allen Hurns, an undrafted rookie free agent in 2014, set the NFL record for the most touchdown receptions by an undrafted player in a player’s first two seasons (16). Prior to his time in Jacksonville, O’Brien spent one season as a national scout with the Kansas City Chiefs in 2012.
For 10 seasons (2002-11), O’Brien served in various roles within the New England Patriots player personnel department. The Patriots elevated O’Brien to national scout in his final two seasons (2010-11) in New England after his time as an area scout that covered five seasons (2002, 2006-09). In 2004-05, he was the Patriots’ pro personnel scout.
A graduate of Harvard where he lettered in lacrosse, O’Brien originally joined the Patriots as a player personnel intern in 2000 and continued those duties during the Patriots’ first Super Bowl season in 2001 while still attending Harvard. He began his NFL career as an intern with the New York Jets player personnel department in 1999.
O’Brien is a native of Garden City, N.Y. He and his wife, Alexis, together have a son, Finn.
A few notes on O'Brien from this. He's a Patriots guy essentially. Learned under Belichick and Pioli, both of whom have Giants connections. So that is a huge plus. The Giants and Patriots organization has interchanged coaches and front office people for many years, going back to Parcells and Erhardt from the 1970s.
And he also knows how to sign free agent offensive lineman, as he did in Detroit. Which is a good thing to have in a NYG GM, wouldn't you say?
What so good about O’Brien? What has he done with Det the past two years? What did he do for Jax before that? I don’t know much at all about him.
What I do know is: A-Rob is a beast. Bortles and Yeldon are major whiffs, Fowler hasn’t gotten on the field much. The draft is much easier when you’re top 3, and they still whiffed, twice, in two years.
why would the Lions let their head of player personnel leave prior to their own draft? Don't they have the same challenges as the Giants do to get their board set up and why they likely have left Ross in place now? Normally when you have a front office transition, it's too late to junk all the reports from the scouts, so they stay through the draft and get let go after it.
I get that it's a promotion, but what would stop the Lions from simply rejecting the Giants request to interview?
If True, and god knows your rep isn't great, I would be cool with this. He is an upcoming guy with a solid background.
He also wanted Saban in 1997 too.
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for Saban, since he wanted Saban as HC in 2004 and the Giants went with TC
He also wanted Saban in 1997 too.
He wasn't GM in 1997 (George Young was)
Why would we want the personnel guy from the Detriot Lions? What has he done?
Is he going to be long for us here?
I hope he uncovers all the same rocks that he did to find the consensus no-doubt #1 overall QB prospect in Eli. Quite the detective job he did on that one.
Well other than Carolina. And maybe it's being overly critical, but he did recommended Reese as well.
I've given you a lot of crap, but I hope you're right on this one. O'Brien would be a really solid choice.
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for Saban, since he wanted Saban as HC in 2004 and the Giants went with TC
He also wanted Saban in 1997 too.
He wasn't GM in 1997 (George Young was)
True, but he was the assistant GM and the Giants were beginning to push George out the door. Everyone knew that 1997 was his final year as GM and that coach would be his final pick, but Accorsi was going to be part of the future with that coach, so he had a lot of say in the selection.
I believe this is his second year with Lions. He's spent 10 years in the Pats organization, starting as an intern while in college. Then he was at Jacksonville for a few years and was in charge of college scouting. He helped build the current Jags.
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But I can't say that raiding the Lions' front office for executives is something that appeals to me.
I believe this is his second year with Lions. He's spent 10 years in the Pats organization, starting as an intern while in college. Then he was at Jacksonville for a few years and was in charge of college scouting. He helped build the current Jags.
He was behind the Bortles pick actually. Not a good mark.
Is he going to be long for us here?
Apart from his age, I'm concerned that Saban appears to have bailed on his last NFL gig. It gives the impression that he's an opportunist, which isn't what we need right now.
Over the span of his NFL career, O’Brien has worked in player personnel for four different teams in capacities that covered both pro and college scouting. Prior to Detroit, O’Brien was with the Jacksonville Jaguars as director of college scouting for that past three seasons (2013-15). Under O’Brien’s guidance, the Jaguars acquired a nucleus of young talent that included QB Blake Bortles (third overall) and WR Allen Robinson (61st overall) as the team’s first- and second-round picks in the 2014 NFL Draft. Robinson was named to the 2016 Pro Bowl, while WR Allen Hurns, an undrafted rookie free agent in 2014, set the NFL record for the most touchdown receptions by an undrafted player in a player’s first two seasons (16). Prior to his time in Jacksonville, O’Brien spent one season as a national scout with the Kansas City Chiefs in 2012.
For 10 seasons (2002-11), O’Brien served in various roles within the New England Patriots player personnel department. The Patriots elevated O’Brien to national scout in his final two seasons (2010-11) in New England after his time as an area scout that covered five seasons (2002, 2006-09). In 2004-05, he was the Patriots’ pro personnel scout.
A graduate of Harvard where he lettered in lacrosse, O’Brien originally joined the Patriots as a player personnel intern in 2000 and continued those duties during the Patriots’ first Super Bowl season in 2001 while still attending Harvard. He began his NFL career as an intern with the New York Jets player personnel department in 1999.
O’Brien is a native of Garden City, N.Y. He and his wife, Alexis, together have a son, Finn.
A few notes on O'Brien from this. He's a Patriots guy essentially. Learned under Belichick and Pioli, both of whom have Giants connections. So that is a huge plus. The Giants and Patriots organization has interchanged coaches and front office people for many years, going back to Parcells and Erhardt from the 1970s.
And he also knows how to sign free agent offensive lineman, as he did in Detroit. Which is a good thing to have in a NYG GM, wouldn't you say?
What so good about O’Brien? What has he done with Det the past two years? What did he do for Jax before that? I don’t know much at all about him.
What I do know is: A-Rob is a beast. Bortles and Yeldon are major whiffs, Fowler hasn’t gotten on the field much. The draft is much easier when you’re top 3, and they still whiffed, twice, in two years.
They should also be in contact with Parcels for advice, if he is willing to give it.
No fucking way. Guy was so full of himself he made bold moves, and got himself fired. He was a hard headed asshole. Not welcome back.
He was in charge of the Jags draft from 2014-2015.
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has to be the leader in the clubhouse.
No fucking way. Guy was so full of himself he made bold moves, and got himself fired. He was a hard headed asshole. Not welcome back.
I mean he made some good moves.
I get that it's a promotion, but what would stop the Lions from simply rejecting the Giants request to interview?