And knock the cowboys out of the playoff picture. Webb has got near zero reps to dare and he would get killed ... playing geno is a waste of time, not to mention the fan reaction to him would be merciless. Chalk the last week up to a bad dream ... that had a good ending and let's get back to Eli frkn Manning.
i cant believe it, but i agree....webb should 100% start
Webb hasn't taken any practice snaps. This should have been the plan from the beginning - start Eli, give Webb half the practice snaps. Let Webb start games 15 and 16.
the next game. Spags knows if he wants to be the next coach, he's going to need to win games, at a minimum. Eli gives him the best chance to do that. And plus, it's the Cowboys, the crowd is going to amped up. Nobody wants to see Davis Webb in that spot.
i cant believe it, but i agree....webb should 100% start
Webb hasn't taken any practice snaps. This should have been the plan from the beginning - start Eli, give Webb half the practice snaps. Let Webb start games 15 and 16.
as captain ron says, if anything is gonna happen, its gonna happen out there! lmao
the kid is fine, throw him in the mix. can he do worse than we have been doing? let the kid learn. trial by fire.
2) Mara saves face with Eli.
3) Mara saves face with fans.
These are business decisions WITH REGARD TO THE PLAYERS AND FANS. They aren't necessarily aligned with short-, medium-
or long-term success football success, but they are important for the Maras to preserve their eroding reputation as a good team to root for, to play for, and to set a good example for the NFL. All of these things help the franchise's long-term viability as a profitable franchise.
Real football decisions will fall in the lap of the next GM and coach.
the idea of an "on-again, off-again" relationship. If it's done, it's done. I love Eli, and definitely want him to start next season here, but for now there truly is no point.
The streak is dead. Ben and Jerry got the boot. It's just a shit show, so the one positive that can be taken from this is doing evaluating. (God, I've really gotten sick of that word).
Let's make sure we get Webb a good amount of playing time in these upcoming games and try to get an idea of what we've got. It's best for the franchise because there's a lot of good players in the upcoming draft, not just QB's. So, if Webb really has "it," I'd rather keep developing him and ride into the sunset with Eli until his contract expires.
The Eli benching blew up in his face and he's making decisions in a completely reactionary fashion. The end of this season has been stunningly directionless.
Gives you the best chance to win. Mara doesn't tank games for draft position.
Webb, who's received very little practice opportunity, just won't be ready to start and play in one week.
It's the Cowboys.
Acknowledges the mistakes and horror of the past week.
Settles the lockerroom.
Keeps options open with Eli going forward.
Geno Smith is a nonfactor and perhaps only McAdoo believed he could be a factor.
Football is a violent sport and players put a lot on the line to play every day.
They deserve the best players on the field to give you a chance and reason to play.
We have a top 5 pick and don't have the overall talent to win out but compete against 3 NFC teams at home and maybe catch a win that hurts their playoff chances- Sign me up
Playing Webb based on some thought that it will tell you something is ludicrous. Starting Webb if he is not ready to start is only going to hurt his development. If he is ready...and better than Eli in practice...he should start.
It's really not that hard.
I have been one of the biggest supporters of Eli Â
and one of the biggest proponents of firing Reese and McAdoo. With that in mind, I don't think they should start Eli. With the streak no longer even a thought in the decision making process, they should be elevating Webb to starter to see what he does with 4 games of preparing, studying film, and playing.
Mac was such a genius, that he planned a QB change without working Webb into the mix - which is probably the biggest fail in the entire decision and what blew up in his face when Eli took the demotion instead of the plan to start and then go with Geno.
Geno should never have been part of the equation.
There has been zero indication that Webb is ready to see any game Â
Mac was such a genius, that he planned a QB change without working Webb into the mix - which is probably the biggest fail in the entire decision and what blew up in his face when Eli took the demotion instead of the plan to start and then go with Geno.
Geno should never have been part of the equation.
It's unfortunate and I'm not a Mac apologist. The only way this would have worked is if Webb was the number 2 QB. Than he would have gotten the reps necessary to have a fighting chance. That became impossible given the Giants belief they were a Super Bowl contending team. If Eli got hurt they felt, rightly so, that Geno gave them the best chance at winning at couple of games till Eli got healthier.
In today's NFL you're lucky to have enough practice time for two QB's let alone three. There simply was no time to give Webb and no time to fast forward his development.
Now that the season is a shit show and you want to evaluate Webb to see whether you want to invest another high round draft choice in a QB, you're fucked.
There was no way around it. You would have had to be clairvoyant to get this right. And none of us thing that Mac had that ability.
I would favor looking at Webb. But why help Jerry Jones? We need to get some payback here, and the Dallas D is not as good as Oakland's or Philly. As much as as I think we need to see more of Webb, I hate the Cowboys more. Eli can exploit the holes in the Dallas D better than Webb at this point.
It's unfortunate and I'm not a Mac apologist. The only way this would have worked is if Webb was the number 2 QB. Than he would have gotten the reps necessary to have a fighting chance. That became impossible given the Giants belief they were a Super Bowl contending team. If Eli got hurt they felt, rightly so, that Geno gave them the best chance at winning at couple of games till Eli got healthier.
In today's NFL you're lucky to have enough practice time for two QB's let alone three. There simply was no time to give Webb and no time to fast forward his development.
Now that the season is a shit show and you want to evaluate Webb to see whether you want to invest another high round draft choice in a QB, you're fucked.
There was no way around it. You would have had to be clairvoyant to get this right. And none of us thing that Mac had that ability.
That was true in the preseason. When they hit the bye at 1-6 with OBJ and Marshall out for the season, Webb should have been elevated to #2.
It's unfortunate and I'm not a Mac apologist. The only way this would have worked is if Webb was the number 2 QB. Than he would have gotten the reps necessary to have a fighting chance. That became impossible given the Giants belief they were a Super Bowl contending team. If Eli got hurt they felt, rightly so, that Geno gave them the best chance at winning at couple of games till Eli got healthier.
In today's NFL you're lucky to have enough practice time for two QB's let alone three. There simply was no time to give Webb and no time to fast forward his development.
Now that the season is a shit show and you want to evaluate Webb to see whether you want to invest another high round draft choice in a QB, you're fucked.
There was no way around it. You would have had to be clairvoyant to get this right. And none of us thing that Mac had that ability.
That was true in the preseason. When they hit the bye at 1-6 with OBJ and Marshall out for the season, Webb should have been elevated to #2.
True, but McAdoo was never going to do that. Which is another good reason for firing him.
Not really when you're 2-10
You have to start him or they're going to put up mean billboards. Oops, too late.
Webb hasn't taken any practice snaps. This should have been the plan from the beginning - start Eli, give Webb half the practice snaps. Let Webb start games 15 and 16.
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i cant believe it, but i agree....webb should 100% start
Webb hasn't taken any practice snaps. This should have been the plan from the beginning - start Eli, give Webb half the practice snaps. Let Webb start games 15 and 16.
as captain ron says, if anything is gonna happen, its gonna happen out there! lmao
the kid is fine, throw him in the mix. can he do worse than we have been doing? let the kid learn. trial by fire.
Dammit man, you beat me to it!
3) Mara saves face with fans.
These are business decisions WITH REGARD TO THE PLAYERS AND FANS. They aren't necessarily aligned with short-, medium-
or long-term success football success, but they are important for the Maras to preserve their eroding reputation as a good team to root for, to play for, and to set a good example for the NFL. All of these things help the franchise's long-term viability as a profitable franchise.
Real football decisions will fall in the lap of the next GM and coach.
The streak is dead. Ben and Jerry got the boot. It's just a shit show, so the one positive that can be taken from this is doing evaluating. (God, I've really gotten sick of that word).
Let's make sure we get Webb a good amount of playing time in these upcoming games and try to get an idea of what we've got. It's best for the franchise because there's a lot of good players in the upcoming draft, not just QB's. So, if Webb really has "it," I'd rather keep developing him and ride into the sunset with Eli until his contract expires.
Webb, who's received very little practice opportunity, just won't be ready to start and play in one week.
It's the Cowboys.
Acknowledges the mistakes and horror of the past week.
Settles the lockerroom.
Keeps options open with Eli going forward.
Geno Smith is a nonfactor and perhaps only McAdoo believed he could be a factor.
They deserve the best players on the field to give you a chance and reason to play.
We have a top 5 pick and don't have the overall talent to win out but compete against 3 NFC teams at home and maybe catch a win that hurts their playoff chances- Sign me up
2. Center the initial decision on McAdoo
Two reasons that do not help this football team in '17 or '18.
Playing Webb based on some thought that it will tell you something is ludicrous. Starting Webb if he is not ready to start is only going to hurt his development. If he is ready...and better than Eli in practice...he should start.
It's really not that hard.
Mac was such a genius, that he planned a QB change without working Webb into the mix - which is probably the biggest fail in the entire decision and what blew up in his face when Eli took the demotion instead of the plan to start and then go with Geno.
Geno should never have been part of the equation.
I don't get it.
Mac was such a genius, that he planned a QB change without working Webb into the mix - which is probably the biggest fail in the entire decision and what blew up in his face when Eli took the demotion instead of the plan to start and then go with Geno.
Geno should never have been part of the equation.
It's unfortunate and I'm not a Mac apologist. The only way this would have worked is if Webb was the number 2 QB. Than he would have gotten the reps necessary to have a fighting chance. That became impossible given the Giants belief they were a Super Bowl contending team. If Eli got hurt they felt, rightly so, that Geno gave them the best chance at winning at couple of games till Eli got healthier.
In today's NFL you're lucky to have enough practice time for two QB's let alone three. There simply was no time to give Webb and no time to fast forward his development.
Now that the season is a shit show and you want to evaluate Webb to see whether you want to invest another high round draft choice in a QB, you're fucked.
There was no way around it. You would have had to be clairvoyant to get this right. And none of us thing that Mac had that ability.
It's unfortunate and I'm not a Mac apologist. The only way this would have worked is if Webb was the number 2 QB. Than he would have gotten the reps necessary to have a fighting chance. That became impossible given the Giants belief they were a Super Bowl contending team. If Eli got hurt they felt, rightly so, that Geno gave them the best chance at winning at couple of games till Eli got healthier.
In today's NFL you're lucky to have enough practice time for two QB's let alone three. There simply was no time to give Webb and no time to fast forward his development.
Now that the season is a shit show and you want to evaluate Webb to see whether you want to invest another high round draft choice in a QB, you're fucked.
There was no way around it. You would have had to be clairvoyant to get this right. And none of us thing that Mac had that ability.
That was true in the preseason. When they hit the bye at 1-6 with OBJ and Marshall out for the season, Webb should have been elevated to #2.
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It's unfortunate and I'm not a Mac apologist. The only way this would have worked is if Webb was the number 2 QB. Than he would have gotten the reps necessary to have a fighting chance. That became impossible given the Giants belief they were a Super Bowl contending team. If Eli got hurt they felt, rightly so, that Geno gave them the best chance at winning at couple of games till Eli got healthier.
In today's NFL you're lucky to have enough practice time for two QB's let alone three. There simply was no time to give Webb and no time to fast forward his development.
Now that the season is a shit show and you want to evaluate Webb to see whether you want to invest another high round draft choice in a QB, you're fucked.
There was no way around it. You would have had to be clairvoyant to get this right. And none of us thing that Mac had that ability.
That was true in the preseason. When they hit the bye at 1-6 with OBJ and Marshall out for the season, Webb should have been elevated to #2.
True, but McAdoo was never going to do that. Which is another good reason for firing him.