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Mara to be on w/Francesa in 10 minutes

EddieNYG : 12/4/2017 2:29 pm
Mike just announced now
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Jints in Carolina : 12/4/2017 2:32 pm : link
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http://player.radio.com/listen/station/wfan-sports-radio-66am-1019fm-ny - ( New Window )
Can't wait!  
trueblueinpw : 12/4/2017 2:34 pm : link
Who better to get us through all this than the Sports Pope?
Spoiler alert:  
bceagle05 : 12/4/2017 2:35 pm : link
Mike's gonna pin everything on Odell.
Mara said they "probably " would have done it even if they won  
Victor in CT : 12/4/2017 2:46 pm : link
yesterday. He said they made the decision that it had to be done.
The fan outrage didn’t impact the decision  
glowrider : 12/4/2017 2:54 pm : link
But the impact at the stadium was something in his conscious awareness?

Talks out of both sides of his mouth.
RE: The fan outrage didn’t impact the decision  
trueblueinpw : 12/4/2017 2:56 pm : link
In comment 13723900 glowrider said:
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But the impact at the stadium was something in his conscious awareness?

Talks out of both sides of his mouth.


Yeah, I don't understand that either. Why not just say, "of course, the fans are extremely important to me and the other owners of the team"? What's the harm?
Mara just said he called Manning this morning to give him a heads up  
baadbill : 12/4/2017 3:00 pm : link
... How many other players did Mara personally call? /s
He’s trying to say he  
Daniel in MI : 12/4/2017 3:00 pm : link
Heard the fans and got their unhappiness but they didn’t make the decision because of that, per se. No reasonable owner would fire a coach and GM on fan say so alone. (And if you did you’d never admit it.)
I believe that it didn't impact the decision  
Bill L : 12/4/2017 3:03 pm : link
but I believe it impacted the timing of the decision. I think he intimated that it was a factor. And, it probably is best for Ben for him not to have been at the next few games.
Mara said he wants to win, not to see Webb or other QB's  
PatersonPlank : 12/4/2017 3:03 pm : link
Will talk to Spags about this. Not sure how that synchs with benching Eli every 2nd half.

Also said he called Eli, but Eli had already heard it on the radio.
so we know Eli  
upstatenyg : 12/4/2017 3:06 pm : link
listens to NY sports radio on monday mornings...
RE: Mara said he wants to win, not to see Webb or other QB's  
bw in dc : 12/4/2017 3:09 pm : link
In comment 13723941 PatersonPlank said:
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Will talk to Spags about this. Not sure how that synchs with benching Eli every 2nd half.

Also said he called Eli, but Eli had already heard it on the radio.


I want to win too. Starting next year.

Not having a plan for Webb is beyond silly...
RE: RE: Mara said he wants to win, not to see Webb or other QB's  
Ira : 12/4/2017 3:13 pm : link
In comment 13723961 bw in dc said:
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In comment 13723941 PatersonPlank said:


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Will talk to Spags about this. Not sure how that synchs with benching Eli every 2nd half.

Also said he called Eli, but Eli had already heard it on the radio.



I want to win too. Starting next year.

Not having a plan for Webb is beyond silly...


Absolutely. Did we waste a third round pick on Webb? Do we need a rookie qb? There's only one way to find out.
Good interview by the Sports Pope  
trueblueinpw : 12/4/2017 3:14 pm : link
Thought Mike kind of ran out things to ask Mara at the end there. I really like the way Mara answer the question about OV. Mara seemed very genuine and forthright in his support of OV.

The rest? Well, I don't think Mara is being entirely forthcoming on what the heck went on with the Eli thing. But, its water under the bridge now, he's clearly made the necessary move to let go JR and BM.

What a crazy year!

Dominus vobiscum.

RE: He’s trying to say he  
glowrider : 12/4/2017 3:15 pm : link
In comment 13723932 Daniel in MI said:
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Heard the fans and got their unhappiness but they didn’t make the decision because of that, per se. No reasonable owner would fire a coach and GM on fan say so alone. (And if you did you’d never admit it.)


But you don’t say you’re acutely aware of the reaction that both McAdoo and Reese would cause at the stadium, “especially with three home games.”

I’m not saying he succumbed to the mob, but the mob sure added a boatload of fuel to the fire and 100% led to the immediate ouster of both.

I’d really like to hear him speak plain and not contradict himself because it might diminish the image of leadership and control.
So it looks like Mac screwed up the communication by not circling  
PatersonPlank : 12/4/2017 3:15 pm : link
back with management when Eli balked. They expected Eli to be ok with the plan, he wasn't, so Mac just let him sit out. Mara seemed to say that he initially backed the plan, but insinuated that when Eli balked they he would have redid the plan. Sounds like Mac should have told Eli to hold on, and then talked to Reese or Mara again.
RE: so we know Eli  
moespree : 12/4/2017 3:16 pm : link
In comment 13723946 upstatenyg said:
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listens to NY sports radio on monday mornings...


Would have been Beningo at that time.

Bro this Eli thing is making me delirious. What a disgrace bro. You gotta fire that McAdoo guy bro.
RE: RE: The fan outrage didn’t impact the decision  
Dankbeerman : 12/4/2017 3:22 pm : link
In comment 13723912 trueblueinpw said:
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In comment 13723900 glowrider said:


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But the impact at the stadium was something in his conscious awareness?

Talks out of both sides of his mouth.



Yeah, I don't understand that either. Why not just say, "of course, the fans are extremely important to me and the other owners of the team"? What's the harm?


My guess is he had previously made the decision to fire them but was forced to act now as opposed to the end of the season.
RE: So it looks like Mac screwed up the communication by not circling  
Section331 : 12/4/2017 3:26 pm : link
In comment 13723990 PatersonPlank said:
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back with management when Eli balked. They expected Eli to be ok with the plan, he wasn't, so Mac just let him sit out. Mara seemed to say that he initially backed the plan, but insinuated that when Eli balked they he would have redid the plan. Sounds like Mac should have told Eli to hold on, and then talked to Reese or Mara again.


If Mara expected to micromanage the process so much, he should have given McAdoo more explicit instructions. He can't have it both ways, if he simply made a suggestion to McAdoo/Reese, then he can't complain about how it was carried out.
RE: RE: RE: The fan outrage didn’t impact the decision  
glowrider : 12/4/2017 3:27 pm : link
In comment 13724015 Dankbeerman said:
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In comment 13723912 trueblueinpw said:


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In comment 13723900 glowrider said:


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But the impact at the stadium was something in his conscious awareness?

Talks out of both sides of his mouth.



Yeah, I don't understand that either. Why not just say, "of course, the fans are extremely important to me and the other owners of the team"? What's the harm?



My guess is he had previously made the decision to fire them but was forced to act now as opposed to the end of the season.


That’s the definition of being influenced by outside parties.
F-Mara  
Matt M. : 12/4/2017 3:30 pm : link
I still love the Giants. But, I don't think anyone can pretend this is the class organization of the NFL any longer. Likewise, it isn't the model organization. Clearly, they have done some things right to win 4 SBs and get to 1 other. But, the leadership/ownership leaves a lot to be desired.
RE: RE: So it looks like Mac screwed up the communication by not circling  
HomerJones45 : 12/4/2017 3:47 pm : link
In comment 13724020 Section331 said:
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In comment 13723990 PatersonPlank said:


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back with management when Eli balked. They expected Eli to be ok with the plan, he wasn't, so Mac just let him sit out. Mara seemed to say that he initially backed the plan, but insinuated that when Eli balked they he would have redid the plan. Sounds like Mac should have told Eli to hold on, and then talked to Reese or Mara again.



If Mara expected to micromanage the process so much, he should have given McAdoo more explicit instructions. He can't have it both ways, if he simply made a suggestion to McAdoo/Reese, then he can't complain about how it was carried out.
Yep. Good point
What was the discussion  
Bubba : 12/4/2017 3:58 pm : link
regarding OV?
RE: What was the discussion  
bceagle05 : 12/4/2017 4:24 pm : link
In comment 13724119 Bubba said:
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regarding OV?


His kneeling during the anthem. Mike, as usual, was pushing his political agenda, but Mara defended him by saying he walks the walk, has a father who is a retired police officer, etc.
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