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Different asshat source... regarding Marc Ross

Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/4/2017 2:51 pm
Lazy.
is this a legit asshat Eric?  
Dan in the Springs : 12/4/2017 2:52 pm : link
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Confused...  
ryanmkeane : 12/4/2017 2:52 pm : link
is the asshat info that Marc Ross is lazy?
His output would certainly seem to bear that out  
Greg from LI : 12/4/2017 2:52 pm : link
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Eric....  
Hades07 : 12/4/2017 2:52 pm : link
...is the asshat source lazy, or is the asshat source saying Ross is lazy?
No worries...  
bceagle05 : 12/4/2017 2:52 pm : link
He's only playing a prominent role in determining our most important draft pick in nearly 15 years.
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GiantFilthy : 12/4/2017 2:52 pm : link
The source is lazy?

or

The source said Marc Ross is lazy?

or

You are too lazy to tell us what the source said?
Is this a description of Marc Ross or the thread?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/4/2017 2:52 pm : link
...
Creates a list of prospects sorted by number of back flips  
widmerseyebrow : 12/4/2017 2:53 pm : link
Calls it a day.
or maybe...  
Hades07 : 12/4/2017 2:53 pm : link
...you are saying we are lazy? hmmmm...
RE: is this a legit asshat Eric?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/4/2017 2:53 pm : link
In comment 13723878 Dan in the Springs said:
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Yes.
Called lazy by people within the organization,  
RottenApple : 12/4/2017 2:54 pm : link
yet, he will be involved in a possible top 5 pick?
What the eff is going on?  
NorwoodWideRight : 12/4/2017 2:55 pm : link
I haven't seen this many leaks since the Fassel era.
Reese's downfall.....  
Reb8thVA : 12/4/2017 2:55 pm : link
was his decision to hire Ross. He was a failure in Philadelphia and a failure in Buffalo.
If he  
burtmanjack : 12/4/2017 2:55 pm : link
were going to be lazy, I wish he would just read the Ourlads preview and call it a day. The Giants would have been better off.
If he's lazy why is he still employed?  
BigBlue4You09 : 12/4/2017 2:56 pm : link
And part of being the biggest franchise pick since Eli?
RE: What the eff is going on?  
Greg from LI : 12/4/2017 2:57 pm : link
In comment 13723903 NorwoodWideRight said:
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I haven't seen this many leaks since the Fassel era.


Well, Accorsi is involved again, so of course there are leaks everywhere.
RE: RE: What the eff is going on?  
Hades07 : 12/4/2017 2:59 pm : link
In comment 13723915 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13723903 NorwoodWideRight said:


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I haven't seen this many leaks since the Fassel era.



Well, Accorsi is involved again, so of course there are leaks everywhere.
LMAO
RE: RE: What the eff is going on?  
bw in dc : 12/4/2017 3:01 pm : link
In comment 13723915 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13723903 NorwoodWideRight said:


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I haven't seen this many leaks since the Fassel era.



Well, Accorsi is involved again, so of course there are leaks everywhere.


The Mark Felt of the NFL returns...
Leave Ross in place  
Bill in TN : 12/4/2017 3:02 pm : link
Interview him for GM to satisfy the Rooney Rule, then kick his butt out the door.
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arcarsenal : 12/4/2017 3:03 pm : link
Not surprising.
The strange career of Marc Ross  
Greg from LI : 12/4/2017 3:04 pm : link
Fail with multiple organizations, get hired by the Giants, stay there for a decade despite a miserable track record.
Accorsi will be busy  
moespree : 12/4/2017 3:08 pm : link
Asking potential GMs if they know the story of Johnny Unitas and the Baltimore Colts. He'll also be sure to talk about his time as a Baltimore sports writer over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. And when there's only a tiny bit of time left in the interview he'll ask the potential GM about John Elway.
"OK, I think we have to wrap up for today"  
Greg from LI : 12/4/2017 3:10 pm : link
"In our next round of interviews, we're going to do an in-depth analysis of the career of Bert Jones."
Not surprised  
WillVAB : 12/4/2017 3:10 pm : link
He needs to go.
RE: Accorsi will be busy  
NorwoodWideRight : 12/4/2017 3:11 pm : link
In comment 13723953 moespree said:
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Asking potential GMs if they know the story of Johnny Unitas and the Baltimore Colts. He'll also be sure to talk about his time as a Baltimore sports writer over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. And when there's only a tiny bit of time left in the interview he'll ask the potential GM about John Elway.


Ha!
Can you just confirm that this means  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/4/2017 3:11 pm : link
Marc Ross is Lazy
RE: The strange career of Marc Ross  
Victor in CT : 12/4/2017 3:12 pm : link
In comment 13723944 Greg from LI said:
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Fail with multiple organizations, get hired by the Giants, stay there for a decade despite a miserable track record.


Yes I wish I could be that lucky
RE: Can you just confirm that this means  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 12/4/2017 3:20 pm : link
In comment 13723973 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Marc Ross is Lazy


i certainly wasn't  
japanhead : 12/4/2017 3:22 pm : link
impressed with him on "finding giants" not sure if anyone saw that and remembers him on there, but he seemed very immature.

the fact that reese nor either of the 2 mara's seemed not to notice that their drafts went in the crapper immediately after he came on board is just as concerning
lazy as in flying off to the  
bluepepper : 12/4/2017 3:29 pm : link
Kentucky Derby during the draft lazy or showing up late to work and not giving a crap lazy?
Ross Came Across Very Badly To Me In Finding Giants  
Trainmaster : 12/4/2017 3:41 pm : link
Very full of himself. I hope he is gone soon.
Reb and Greg nail it.  
Red Dog : 12/4/2017 4:40 pm : link
Ross has to go, and the sooner the better.
Seriously Marc Ross as GM  
Matt M. : 12/4/2017 4:44 pm : link
and/or Spags as HC might be enough to at the very least make me apathetic towards the Giants. I can't say I would really give up on them. But, I would certainly stop caring an awful lot.
RE: Can you just confirm that this means  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/4/2017 4:46 pm : link
In comment 13723973 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Marc Ross is Lazy


What else could it mean?
I've been saying this for a while  
GiantTuff1 : 12/4/2017 4:50 pm : link
the Giants draft picks got especially finesse and weak the second Marc Ross got here.

When Jerry couldn't be tied into the intricacies of scouting each player in detail, something I think he was very good at, and had to rely on the likes of Marc Ross and others... that's when things went downhill and fast.

When Reese ran the drafts he was actually quite successful in that role...
RE: I've been saying this for a while  
Hades07 : 12/4/2017 4:59 pm : link
In comment 13724273 GiantTuff1 said:
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the Giants draft picks got especially finesse and weak the second Marc Ross got here.

When Jerry couldn't be tied into the intricacies of scouting each player in detail, something I think he was very good at, and had to rely on the likes of Marc Ross and others... that's when things went downhill and fast.

When Reese ran the drafts he was actually quite successful in that role...
Its a shame that the Giants couldn't just put him in that role. Maybe they could offer him a chance to be the director of scouting in the first half of the year and the GM in the second half of the year so the Giants can see the other GMs in the office.
RE: I've been saying this for a while  
Jim in Fairfax : 12/4/2017 5:05 pm : link
In comment 13724273 GiantTuff1 said:
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the Giants draft picks got especially finesse and weak the second Marc Ross got here.

When Jerry couldn't be tied into the intricacies of scouting each player in detail, something I think he was very good at, and had to rely on the likes of Marc Ross and others... that's when things went downhill and fast.

When Reese ran the drafts he was actually quite successful in that role...

Absolutely. It’s astounding he stuck with Ross til the end.
I’m sure after the new GM gets here and runs his first draft  
The_Boss : 12/4/2017 5:19 pm : link
Ross and all his scouts will be out on their asses.
It would explain  
McNally's_Nuts : 12/4/2017 7:03 pm : link
the drafting of Phillip Dillard
Ross will be gone  
DavidinBMNY : 12/4/2017 10:52 pm : link
The scouts might stick.
RE: I've been saying this for a while  
SomeFan : 12/5/2017 2:51 am : link
In comment 13724273 GiantTuff1 said:
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the Giants draft picks got especially finesse and weak the second Marc Ross got here.

When Jerry couldn't be tied into the intricacies of scouting each player in detail, something I think he was very good at, and had to rely on the likes of Marc Ross and others... that's when things went downhill and fast.

When Reese ran the drafts he was actually quite successful in that role...


Agree. Reese was a good judge of talent but did not seem like a good manager.
RE: I’m sure after the new GM gets here and runs his first draft  
Victor in CT : 12/5/2017 8:07 am : link
In comment 13724323 The_Boss said:
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Ross and all his scouts will be out on their asses.


1 draft too late
In the next episode of "As the Giants Turn..."  
BamaBlue : 12/5/2017 8:16 am : link
Can Steve Spagnolo find his backside with both hands... will Eli be crushed by the Doomsday Defense... Can Chris Mara touch his index finger to Ernie Acorsi's nose? Tune-in Sunday for the exciting answers...
RE: RE: I've been saying this for a while  
GiantTuff1 : 12/5/2017 1:19 pm : link
In comment 13724299 Jim in Fairfax said:
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In comment 13724273 GiantTuff1 said:


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the Giants draft picks got especially finesse and weak the second Marc Ross got here.

When Jerry couldn't be tied into the intricacies of scouting each player in detail, something I think he was very good at, and had to rely on the likes of Marc Ross and others... that's when things went downhill and fast.

When Reese ran the drafts he was actually quite successful in that role...


Absolutely. It’s astounding he stuck with Ross til the end.


They should have fired Ross years ago.

If you recall there was a concerted effort I believe starting 2 years ago to influx the roster with 'captain' and cerebral types... guys with passion rather than finesse athletes that can workout but have no real dedication to the craft or seemingly anything else for that matter.

I think that was Reese recognizing that something was wrong with the roster makeup, attempting as much as his time would allow to correct those deficiencies and get back more of "his type" of guys. But too little too late, unfortunately.
RE: RE: I've been saying this for a while  
GiantTuff1 : 12/5/2017 1:22 pm : link
In comment 13724289 Hades07 said:
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In comment 13724273 GiantTuff1 said:


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the Giants draft picks got especially finesse and weak the second Marc Ross got here.

When Jerry couldn't be tied into the intricacies of scouting each player in detail, something I think he was very good at, and had to rely on the likes of Marc Ross and others... that's when things went downhill and fast.

When Reese ran the drafts he was actually quite successful in that role...

Its a shame that the Giants couldn't just put him in that role. Maybe they could offer him a chance to be the director of scouting in the first half of the year and the GM in the second half of the year so the Giants can see the other GMs in the office.


Exactly.

I think Reese's best position is actually the position that he vacated to Marc Ross, running player personnel and the drafts. As long as Ross is still there, I think the scourge is still in this organization, unfortunately.

Mara better be aware of when things started going downhill and the makeup of the players that we were bringing in.

But ultimately the responsibility is at Reeses feet, that he green lit these players, and I can understand that.
I simply refuse to believe that the new GM retains Ross  
Greg from LI : 12/5/2017 1:31 pm : link
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But most new GMs do not replace their scouting groups  
jlukes : 12/5/2017 1:36 pm : link
until AFTER the draft
RE: RE: RE: I've been saying this for a while  
LauderdaleMatty : 12/5/2017 2:40 pm : link
In comment 13725857 GiantTuff1 said:
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In comment 13724289 Hades07 said:


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In comment 13724273 GiantTuff1 said:


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the Giants draft picks got especially finesse and weak the second Marc Ross got here.

When Jerry couldn't be tied into the intricacies of scouting each player in detail, something I think he was very good at, and had to rely on the likes of Marc Ross and others... that's when things went downhill and fast.

When Reese ran the drafts he was actually quite successful in that role...

Its a shame that the Giants couldn't just put him in that role. Maybe they could offer him a chance to be the director of scouting in the first half of the year and the GM in the second half of the year so the Giants can see the other GMs in the office.



Exactly.

I think Reese's best position is actually the position that he vacated to Marc Ross, running player personnel and the drafts. As long as Ross is still there, I think the scourge is still in this organization, unfortunately.

Mara better be aware of when things started going downhill and the makeup of the players that we were bringing in.

But ultimately the responsibility is at Reeses feet, that he green lit these players, and I can understand that.


This. Reese wasn’t a good manager. He also he hired a guy who sucked and didn’t Fire him. Reese needed to can Ross years ago. People joke about Quinn having pictures but Ross has been a failure in 3 places. How
This loser has kept his job is a big issue. They made TC fire Gilbride a s Fewell. How did this guy keep his job? And yes While Ross was most likely a bigger issue that Reese it was Jerry’s fault he didn’t shitcan this moron years ago.
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