I feel as if a great weight has been lifted from me. We obviously do not know what the future is going to bring us as Giants fans -- but this is the ugliest season I can ever remember, and it was becoming like torturous punishment to be a Giants fan. Today I am not dreading what's going to happen next like I have been for a few months now.
I still can't believe Eli was benched for Geno Smith.
If fucking Mac planned better and had Webb as the backup, we probably wouldn't have burned bridges with Eli and he'd probably still have gotten canned.
Basically, the streak is over because Mac is a petulant fuck.
Ideally, I would go to Webb now. But that isn't possible. So, they are almost forced to go back to Eli, which is a waste now that the streak is over and they claimed they wanted to see the other QBs. Tehy would be better served having prepared Webb to this point.
I hope I am wrong
Where ever we pick in the draft, 2nd thru 5th, take comfort that jerry Reese will not be making the pick, or allowing other teams to leapfrog us for the guy(s) we want. It's a good day.
we need new blood, a new way of thinking, new personnel and someone at the top (GM) who isn't going to just go along to get along with the existing crew.
so this was a great first step and will satisfy for now, but there better be much, much more coming.
And I think Mara knows the truth of my suspicions. And while I am happy McAdoo and Reese are gone, I am very disappointed Mara did not give recognition to the public outrage expressed by the other professionals in the League - coaches and players. And expressed by former players of the Giants - the Giant Alumni. And by the fans.
Mara may have fired McAdoo and Reese - but his insistence this had nothing to do with how the Eli Manning situation was handled is an insult.
+1
This is a step in the right direction. Now, correcting the Eli mess is step 2.
A little pissed that we couldn't rebuild the OL - whether it was bad drafting or player development I'm not the one to say. But it was a complete fail.
So now here we are without our HoF coach and we screwed our HoF QB.
I'm ready for 5-10 years in the wilderness, just like the Brown, Graham, Maddox years. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
I think a big step would be having a blue chip QB prospect PLUS Webb on the roster next year even if it means we suck in 2018. I'd like to see a thoughtful rebuild starting with the QB(s), and then building from the trenches out.
Could not have said it better...
Who is this new franchise QB waiting in the wings that you speak of?
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Feels like we're headed in the right direction for the first time in a very long time, with a new franchise QB waiting in the wings. What's not to like?
Who is this new franchise QB waiting in the wings that you speak of?
Who they draft this upcoming Spring.
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but yes.
As much as I'd like to see that, I think that ship has sailed. The damage has been done and John Mara is full of sh*t.
IMO- Eli will ask to be traded in the off season. He has a few years left and with a new regime I'm sure he will want to go where he doesn't have to prove himself worthy, or doesn't have to look over his shoulder.
I hope I'm wrong.
I think you're wrong. In fact, I think the main reason these moves were made today (instead of in January) is to get the damage control ball rolling with Eli immediately. I also think Eli's loyalty to the Giants organization is so extreme that it's almost pathological, so I'd be quite surprised if he asked for a trade..
And it is going to take a few years to rebuild this disaster of a player roster.
So this is just the first step in rebuilding a shattered organization.
I'm a lot more concerned with who the GM and scouts are. If they're good at their jobs then draft slots won't matter.
That said, they need to get their replacements right. Ownership has no vision or plan for the future of the team. They’re going to need a strong GM with a plan for the identity of the team going forward and a HC who personifies that identity.
Overpaid, lazy players. Zero foundational offensive lineman. Slighted, old immobile QB who looks average at best now. Uncertainty whether their best player will return to his previous quickness and who is likely due an all-time massive contract anyway. One meaningful win against the Eagles since 2011's V Cruz breakout game.
I feel good about Damon Harrison, Sterling Shepard (who would be a virtual star on better team), and sometimes Landon Collins.
Even accounting for parity, the Giants have a long, long way to go. And that's assuming they can find a good coach which is far from a given.
So not really at all. They're a pathetic, lost circus of a franchise that is decidedly in "prove it" mode.
We have some pieces. not a lot, but a few. It will take a few years to wash away our mistakes on the OL and DL and to get some LBs (finally). Of course by then we will also need 3 new CBs. But this is all doable in today's world.
I'm hopeful about having Webb PLUS one other QB prospect on the roster. Hopefully one of them turns out to be our next franchise QB. If we don't draft a QB I'm afraid we'll be drafting in the 15-20 range next year (too many wins!) and will be screwed. I'd much rather bite the bullet and have 2 sucky years in a row.
Why the hell do you even care what I feel or the need to comment on it.
But if you are so interested, I was referring to the dismissal of Reese and MacAdoo when I said he would not disappoint, but do the correct thing.
Maybe you haven't been paying attention but there were many here who spoke with certainty that Mara would bring them both back.
As to my feelings of empathy, real people lost real jobs, well paid or not.
I choose to keep things in perspective.
I just don't get it, what I feel isn't right or wrong, it just is.
Sometimes it takes a lot of energy to visit this site, too many take it personally if someone expresses an opinion or in this case a feeling they don't agree with.
Sorry, I feel badly for them.
Where ever we pick in the draft, 2nd thru 5th, take comfort that jerry Reese will not be making the pick, or allowing other teams to leapfrog us for the guy(s) we want. It's a good day.
You can criticize a lot about Reese, but picking in the first round is not one of them. There are a lot of GMs in this league who can't get even that right. Nobody has a perfect record, but he's done very well with his first rounders.
We just went through some pain with the Eli benching and now we're facing a real possibility of reliving it again. That really sucks. I'd have rather we gone through the year with BM and JR being the bad guys, then let the new bosses make their own call at QB.
This. and Marc Ross.
Someone said it on another thread... we're the University of Tennessee of the NFL.
I'll be pissed if they stick with Abrams and Spags.
Drain the swamp!
Someone said it on another thread... we're the University of Tennessee of the NFL.
screaming lunatics?
As in 25 former Giant greats publicly announcing they intended to stand on the Giants sideline wearing Manning jerseys? Are they the lunatics you are talking about?
Or are you talking about Tom Brady and other current players and coaches throughout the NFL expressing outrage at the way Manning was treated? Maybe they are the lunatics you are talking about?
Two years ago, FO was convinced McAdoo was the answer. Now, in less than 2 years it would appear they were wrong. Now they get to pick again.