Anyone Feeling Relieved?

but yes.

Hopefully with them holding the second pick in the draft.

being a Brown's fan and going through this every year?

McAdoo and Reese are gone. McAdoo I expected, Reese, not so much. Both are pluses in my book. Eli is back at QB. The in-and-out of which is...confounding, but okay, whatever. I'm not sure if evaluating Webb is still a go, so there's some uncertainty there.

the GM/HC hiring process goes. Given how the last HC hiring process went, and how badly the Eli situation was bungled, I have serious concerns about ownership's ability to get this right.

very relieved. Fresh start was needed. More sentimental about Reese because of the two super bowls and his 20 plus years with the organization. But it was time.

I was concerned Reese would be given another year. I was very surprised to see him let go today - I thought it would be after the season.

In comment 13724088 Britt in VA said:

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but yes.

As much as I'd like to see that, I think that ship has sailed. The damage has been done and John Mara is full of sh*t.

IMO- Eli will ask to be traded in the off season. He has a few years left and with a new regime I'm sure he will want to go where he doesn't have to prove himself worthy, or doesn't have to look over his shoulder.

I hope I'm wrong.

Should be a fun time and hopefully, they get a truly fresh start.
This is going to be an exciting off-season and BBI is going to need a ton of bandwidth

Very much so

but now just left with being angry.

If fucking Mac planned better and had Webb as the backup, we probably wouldn't have burned bridges with Eli and he'd probably still have gotten canned.

Basically, the streak is over because Mac is a petulant fuck.

Feels like we're headed in the right direction for the first time in a very long time, with a new franchise QB waiting in the wings. What's not to like?

I'm buying all my work friends a round of beers right after work..........

contrary to what some fans think, cares more about this team than any of us.

He is not reactionary, he is patient, but in the end his decisions are based on winning.

I've always felt he would do the right thing when the time was right.

He did not disappoint.

I am not relieved, but I am excited about the prospects going forward.

It is only a sport for me, but for guys like MacAdoo and Reese it is real life. I feel badly for them.

The future of the team is a big unknown for now. Plus it is a very sad day for the entire Giants family that things got this bad.

In comment 13724122 joeinpa said:

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contrary to what some fans think, cares more about this team than any of us. He is not reactionary, he is patient, but in the end his decisions are based on winning. I've always felt he would do the right thing when the time was right. He did not disappoint. I am not relieved, but I am excited about the prospects going forward. It is only a sport for me, but for guys like MacAdoo and Reese it is real life. I feel badly for them.

Yes, I feel terrible that McAdoo and Reese have to go home with the millions the Giants have paid them. It sucks to get fired, but people get fired all the time. Not too many have million dollar bank accounts to fall back on.

And sorry, John Mara did disappoint. As much as he wants to blame McAdoo for the Eli fiasco, he is at least as much to blame, if not more. It was his decision to allow McAdoo to look at other QB's. If he wanted it done a certain way, he should have made more explicit directions.

It was ownership that decided Ben McAdoo was the right guy to lead this franchise, and I'm pretty sure John Mara was in on that decision. There are any number of ways he has disappointed.

So not really "relieved"

I was worried that one or both of them would hold onto their jobs. Both needed to be fired IMO. It's time to start fresh and I'm glad they decided to make the decision sooner rather than later.

I hated rooting for the Raiders yesterday. My wife was laughing because she was confused when I was clapping after the Patterson catch and run. She asked " who are you rooting for ? " I told her...not the Giants!

I still can't believe Eli was benched for Geno Smith.

sure how relieved we'll be if Spagnuolo remains the head coach and Abrams the GM.

In comment 13724113 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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but now just left with being angry. If fucking Mac planned better and had Webb as the backup, we probably wouldn't have burned bridges with Eli and he'd probably still have gotten canned. Basically, the streak is over because Mac is a petulant fuck.

Exactly how I feel.

Ideally, I would go to Webb now. But that isn't possible. So, they are almost forced to go back to Eli, which is a waste now that the streak is over and they claimed they wanted to see the other QBs. Tehy would be better served having prepared Webb to this point.

Was surreal watching the Raiders game, I have never felt like that watching a Giants game before. Awful feeling for a fan

I am feeling dread .. that we have mettlesome owners who don't know what the hell they are doing .

I hope I am wrong

In comment 13724156 Eric from BBI said:

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sure how relieved we'll be if Spagnuolo remains the head coach and Abrams the GM.

Not at all. I really can't invest in a team run by the same old business. The entire coaching staff should be let go at the end of the season. I know less about Abrams, but what little I do know is that he isn't really a personnel guy. He may be valuable to have for navigating the cap. But, he isn't the person I want in charge of the all personnel. I think that also needs to come from outside the organization.

that Reese and McAdoo are gone. But apprehensive of who will be GM and HC going forward. Glad Accorsi is on board to assist with GM search.
Where ever we pick in the draft, 2nd thru 5th, take comfort that jerry Reese will not be making the pick, or allowing other teams to leapfrog us for the guy(s) we want. It's a good day.

I wanted a massive regime change 2 years ago and didn't get one. This cannot be the "wholesale change" Mara refers to.

we need new blood, a new way of thinking, new personnel and someone at the top (GM) who isn't going to just go along to get along with the existing crew.

so this was a great first step and will satisfy for now, but there better be much, much more coming.

I am worried and angry. I am worried the last week seriously may have set back the franchise even further. Are bridges burned with Eli for 2018 and/or beyond? What the Hell do we have in Webb and why hasn't he taken any significant snaps in practice, pre-season, etc. in over 6 months? Are we seriously thinking about possibly having a vet like Geno Smith (or that level) mentor our high pick for a year or two? Is there even a chance Spags is hired (please NO!!!)? Are we going QB? Are we going OL? Would we trade down?

I've always had the sense McAdoo had it out for Manning. From day one. And I have the sense McAdoo actually enjoyed hurting Manning.

And I think Mara knows the truth of my suspicions. And while I am happy McAdoo and Reese are gone, I am very disappointed Mara did not give recognition to the public outrage expressed by the other professionals in the League - coaches and players. And expressed by former players of the Giants - the Giant Alumni. And by the fans.

Mara may have fired McAdoo and Reese - but his insistence this had nothing to do with how the Eli Manning situation was handled is an insult.

Don't get stuck settling on more potential half-measures like Abrams, Ross, etc. Make a wise GM choice and mow the swamp down.

I hope I never have to watch another Giants game feeling the way I did yesterday. The odd feeling of not knowing if I wanted them to win or lose. Unlike many people here, I hope they play inspired football with Eli for the rest of the season and win a couple of games.

In comment 13724088 Britt in VA said:

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but yes.

+1

This is a step in the right direction. Now, correcting the Eli mess is step 2.

The future is uncertain, but this needed to happen if the Giants are going to be better in years to come.

I'm with you. I feel like this.

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one of the premier jobs in sports and was way over his head. Way over.

A little pissed that we couldn't rebuild the OL - whether it was bad drafting or player development I'm not the one to say. But it was a complete fail.

So now here we are without our HoF coach and we screwed our HoF QB.

I'm ready for 5-10 years in the wilderness, just like the Brown, Graham, Maddox years. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

I think a big step would be having a blue chip QB prospect PLUS Webb on the roster next year even if it means we suck in 2018. I'd like to see a thoughtful rebuild starting with the QB(s), and then building from the trenches out.

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The future of the team is a big unknown for now. Plus it is a very sad day for the entire Giants family that things got this bad.

Could not have said it better...

In comment 13724114 Dave in Hoboken said:

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Feels like we're headed in the right direction for the first time in a very long time, with a new franchise QB waiting in the wings. What's not to like?

Who is this new franchise QB waiting in the wings that you speak of?

no.

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In comment 13724114 Dave in Hoboken said: Quote: Feels like we're headed in the right direction for the first time in a very long time, with a new franchise QB waiting in the wings. What's not to like? Who is this new franchise QB waiting in the wings that you speak of?

Who they draft this upcoming Spring.

With today's announcement the franchise entered the unknown. There's no natural law saying that things have to get better now.

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In comment 13724088 Britt in VA said: Quote: but yes. As much as I'd like to see that, I think that ship has sailed. The damage has been done and John Mara is full of sh*t. IMO- Eli will ask to be traded in the off season. He has a few years left and with a new regime I'm sure he will want to go where he doesn't have to prove himself worthy, or doesn't have to look over his shoulder. I hope I'm wrong.

I think you're wrong. In fact, I think the main reason these moves were made today (instead of in January) is to get the damage control ball rolling with Eli immediately. I also think Eli's loyalty to the Giants organization is so extreme that it's almost pathological, so I'd be quite surprised if he asked for a trade..

In comment 13724252 Go Terps said:

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With today's announcement the franchise entered the unknown. There's no natural law saying that things have to get better now.

Agreed. First, what if we fall out of the top 2 draft slots? Second, what if Darnold or Rosen isn't the answer? Third, what if the new GM doesn't even want one of them? Fourth, without an even mediocre OL, it won't matter.

They have to get rid of Marc Ross, hire a good GM and head coach, purge the rest of the coaches - especially Quinn - but I'd hang on to Merritt and maybe even Spags, and overhaul the scouting staff.

And it is going to take a few years to rebuild this disaster of a player roster.

So this is just the first step in rebuilding a shattered organization.

It was pivitol that Mara can Reese. His vision for the team from 2012 was a failing one.

and this is a big step towards atoning for the Eli fiasco. Just wish Mara did it last week.

I'm not putting much stock in getting a particular draft pick. I think it's a dangerous game to play to declare a kid out of college as the future of the organization.

I'm a lot more concerned with who the GM and scouts are. If they're good at their jobs then draft slots won't matter.

The organization did the right thing getting rid of a GM incapable of putting together a roster the right way and a coach who lost the locker room.

That said, they need to get their replacements right. Ownership has no vision or plan for the future of the team. They’re going to need a strong GM with a plan for the identity of the team going forward and a HC who personifies that identity.

Bingo! That's all I have to say.

aside from 1 side of the ball in 2015 and a fluky offense reliant on 1 great player, they've been a mess for 1/2 a decade.

Overpaid, lazy players. Zero foundational offensive lineman. Slighted, old immobile QB who looks average at best now. Uncertainty whether their best player will return to his previous quickness and who is likely due an all-time massive contract anyway. One meaningful win against the Eagles since 2011's V Cruz breakout game.

I feel good about Damon Harrison, Sterling Shepard (who would be a virtual star on better team), and sometimes Landon Collins.

Even accounting for parity, the Giants have a long, long way to go. And that's assuming they can find a good coach which is far from a given.

So not really at all. They're a pathetic, lost circus of a franchise that is decidedly in "prove it" mode.