Indeed it is a classy statement and we all, I think, feel a little sorry for Jerry. Truth is he just misfired on the draft and on free agents over the last five or so years. I personally wish him nothing but good fortune and look forward to a successor who hits the ground running and helps build a championship team. Good luck Jerry!
Thank you to the Mara and Tisch families. Thank you Jerry Reese. The players tried very hard to execute my well designed schemes, but were not consistent enough to win. The good news is that after watching the film I could see the problems and they are correctable. I tried to address the biggest problem and it cost me my job.
The coaches job is to run excellent practices and looking back you will see from my comments that we did that every week. It is up to the players to execute in to the game. They were told to be heavy handed, to protect the Duke, to play complementary football, and to get to manageable third downs. Our defensive coordinator was charged with protecting leads and was not able to do that this year. Now he is the head coach ... just saying.
Go McAdoo!
I will look back fondly on my years with the Giants. I only wish I could have had the right players in place to run my system and that I could have had an opportunity to call the plays for Geno.
of the Giants for so long. He did a very good job here, but like arc said, it was definitely time to move on.
Not happy with how it ended, but I can't really say I feel bad for Reese. He made tons of money, probably walking away with 10M in his 401k and his resume looks great. He will land in another organization pretty quickly.
Reese is not the same boat as the coach that was fired Â
And he does deserve appreciation. I think perhaps overlooked sometimes is how good a job he did before becoming GM. Reese is not without talent and will find another front office job in some capacity, easily.
He deserves the utmost respect. I imagine it had to be rough to leave a place you worked at for over 20 years. It becomes like a second home. I wish him the best of luck.
the motto here was "In Reese We Trust." Good statement. His time was up but for several years he was among the best at his job, especially when he was finding the talent for the 2007 team
I do wish the New York "Football" Giants would stop. There hasnt been a New York Giants baseball team in almost 60 years. Not picking just on Reese; I remember Chris Berman using it all the time.
I do wish the New York "Football" Giants would stop. There hasnt been a New York Giants baseball team in almost 60 years. Not picking just on Reese; I remember Chris Berman using it all the time.
That's the official name of the team...it's never changing
in his career. Some team will be glad to hire him for an important post. Maybe not right away but eventually he will get another crack at a GM job and deservedly so.
that they don't remember who our linebackers were in our Super Bowls."
I don't know about you but 99% of giant fans remember Antonio Pierce from 2007 superbowl.. he was one of the leader.. most fans also remember K Mitchell and how once Boley and some other key players were healthy we went on the run..
I do wish the New York "Football" Giants would stop. There hasnt been a New York Giants baseball team in almost 60 years. Not picking just on Reese; I remember Chris Berman using it all the time.
That's the official name of the team...it's never changing
that they don't remember who our linebackers were in our Super Bowls."
I don't know about you but 99% of giant fans remember Antonio Pierce from 2007 superbowl.. he was one of the leader.. most fans also remember K Mitchell and how once Boley and some other key players were healthy we went on the run..
NVM I think it was sarcasm from your part.. I just didn't get it..
his first couple of years with the team, led to SB 42. drafts went downhill after marc ross came on board. managed to attain nicks, manningham, cruz, boss, bradshaw, JPP in drafts and FAs like canty, rolle, boley, grant et al who all contributed to SB 46. some sick moves despite being hampered by the hiring of ross (which is ultimately on him), but the wheels came off these last 5 years and he helped botch the eli thing. he probably should have remained as director of college scouting but he had a good run through the 2nd SB win.
I do wish the New York "Football" Giants would stop. There hasnt been a New York Giants baseball team in almost 60 years. Not picking just on Reese; I remember Chris Berman using it all the time.
That's the official name of the team...it's never changing
Never was as good as in Reese We Trust but nowhere near as bad as the way many portray him here. I say again that all GM make mistakes and especially for later round picks, there isn't a GM of a good team who hasn't had his share of doozies. That said, in my opinion, were it not for one serious mistake. Reese would have keep this job. He did not, as man have said, ignore the OL. I think he thought put a group together and hope they stay healthy and the line would be be at least ok. Ands, if Pugh had stayed healthy and maybe Richburg and if Fluker started from day one and stayed healthy it might have worked. Still, as good as Engram might become, I dont see how Reese didn't go OL. And, if Engram was that much better than available OL,the draft one on round 2. And, if he couldn't or wouldn't find one in the draft, he needed to sign one of the better free agents in addition to Fluker.
It was Reese's stubborness with the OL that was his undoing. That said, his statement was classy.
Wilson Nicks Cruz Smith and Boss are guys who had their promising careers cut short or derailed by injuries. If place doesn't shoot himself that 2008 team was also shaping up as a super bowl contender Who knows what the offense would have looked like if they maintained their health.
better late thane never, it's only been since 1979 around here! The Giants ownership may be starting to join the
21st century after all folks. This is actually progress.
Lets see who they bring in here. I was never a big fan,
but a classy exit I guess.
He wants another job. Like peter King said today a gm in ny who only talks twice a year and loses deserves to get fired.
Quoting him a few weeks ago don’t give up on Giants and HC the smartest guy in the room
No way Reese is a gm again.no media skills stuttering muttering idiot
Adios
Mac was just in the right place at the right time, when he got the HC job....
Reese worked his way up to the GM job....But Reese has done nothing since 2011.....if OBj hadn't fallen all the way to the Giants, what would this offense have looked like these last 4 seasons?
It's amazing what has happened to this OL....from the failure of free agents, to using two firsts and one second round draft pick, that haven't panned out.....this OL is no better off now than after the 2012 season...
We had a glimpse of what an average linebacker, in the form of Beason, could do for this defense....and yet we neglected the position....we got out of cap hell, and then jumped right back in, with the 4 big signings on defense......
The last 5 seasons have been a horror show for Reese and this roster....
The question is, who replaces him? The pressure to turn this roster around will be great....never mind picking the next HC.....
Mac was just in the right place at the right time, when he got the HC job....
Reese worked his way up to the GM job....But Reese has done nothing since 2011.....if OBj hadn't fallen all the way to the Giants, what would this offense have looked like these last 4 seasons?
It's amazing what has happened to this OL....from the failure of free agents, to using two firsts and one second round draft pick, that haven't panned out.....this OL is no better off now than after the 2012 season...
We had a glimpse of what an average linebacker, in the form of Beason, could do for this defense....and yet we neglected the position....we got out of cap hell, and then jumped right back in, with the 4 big signings on defense......
The last 5 seasons have been a horror show for Reese and this roster....
The question is, who replaces him? The pressure to turn this roster around will be great....never mind picking the next HC.....
Please, Dumpster, explain how we're back in cap hell.
RE: Too many people
Gatorade Dunk : 12/5/2017 11:03 pm : link : reply
Please, Dumpster, explain how we're back in cap hell.
This ought to be good.
I'd like..
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/5/2017 11:07 pm : link : reply
to know when we were last in "cap hell" in the first place.
Well, Gatorade Drunk and Fatman, do you remember when we didn't even have a few extra million, to re-sign the Black Unicorn? We couldn't sign anyone, because we had no cap room....we ended up with a bargain basement Myers....you remember him don't you? The guy who tripped over chalk lines? That was ONLY 5 years ago....
As soon as TC was gone, all of a sudden we had 200 M to spend on JPP, OV, Snacks, and Jenkins.....those 4 guys now represent almost 40% of the cap.....with Eli, that is like almost 55% of the cap...
Want to re-sign OBj? How about Collins? Where will the money be to sign free agents for the OL, linebackers, and depth?
Well, Gatorade Drunk and Fatman, do you remember when we didn't even have a few extra million, to re-sign the Black Unicorn? We couldn't sign anyone, because we had no cap room....we ended up with a bargain basement Myers....you remember him don't you? The guy who tripped over chalk lines? That was ONLY 5 years ago....
We didn't sign Bennett, not because of cap issues, but because he wanted too much money vs. his value.
There are certain positions we didn't and won't overpay for.
I have no idea why you are confusing a player's production (tripping over chalk lines) vs. cap room? Myers was a bad signing, but it wasn't because we didn't have $$ to sign anyone else.
Being in cap hell means you have to cut people or not sign key pieces because you're unable to make moves - it isn't making a move that failed.
RE: Too many people
Gatorade Dunk : 12/5/2017 11:03 pm : link : reply
Please, Dumpster, explain how we're back in cap hell.
This ought to be good.
I'd like..
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/5/2017 11:07 pm : link : reply
to know when we were last in "cap hell" in the first place.
Well, Gatorade Drunk and Fatman, do you remember when we didn't even have a few extra million, to re-sign the Black Unicorn? We couldn't sign anyone, because we had no cap room....we ended up with a bargain basement Myers....you remember him don't you? The guy who tripped over chalk lines? That was ONLY 5 years ago....
As soon as TC was gone, all of a sudden we had 200 M to spend on JPP, OV, Snacks, and Jenkins.....those 4 guys now represent almost 40% of the cap.....with Eli, that is like almost 55% of the cap...
Want to re-sign OBj? How about Collins? Where will the money be to sign free agents for the OL, linebackers, and depth?
This was Reese's parting gift to the NY Giants...
Those numbers are daunting especially when you consider they still need to rebuild this putrid O-line. Some big decisions will have to be made with the prospect of having to sign Collins and OBJ in the coming years. jerry may have left them with an untenable situation forcing a complete rebuild but I doubt they'll do that. That being said I think JPP and OV are probably the most overpaid DE tandem in the league, thanks,Jerry!
Vernon look last year? People bitch because they don't overpay Bennett, then we have two DEs who played at a fairly high level last year not play so good this year, and that's on the GM???
BTW, OBJ didn't fall into Reese's lap, many on here were livid we didn't take Martin or Donald.
How overpaid to JPP and
RollBlue : 11:51 am : link : reply
Vernon look last year?
Do you remember the lack of a pass rush last year from the front four?
Do you remember the Cleveland and Washington games where JPP had 5 of his 7 sacks? Mathematically, that means, in 10 other games he had 2 sacks....if ever a guy disappeared in big games last year, it was JPP, just like this year....
I give OV a pass for last year with all the injuries he played with last year.....this year he just can't stay on the field....
The reason the defense was good last year had more to do with our DB's and their pass coverage, than our pass rush....
What???
FatMan in Charlotte : 9:41 am : link : reply
We didn't sign Bennett, not because of cap issues, but because he wanted too much money vs. his value.
There are certain positions we didn't and won't overpay for.
I have no idea why you are confusing a player's production (tripping over chalk lines) vs. cap room? Myers was a bad signing, but it wasn't because we didn't have $$ to sign anyone else.
We didn't overpay, mainly because we had no money to overpay....There is no such thing as overpaying, only when you have the money? Myers was a bargain basement substitute....want another example? How about Linval? Yup, no money for him either...
I wanted a change, but I wish him the best.
He isn't someone who is comfortable being in the public eye. Accorsi lived for it. He was a bad, bad public speaker.
Unfortunately, not a good trait in a general manager in this day and age.
Thanks for 23 or 24 years of doing his best and two Super Bowls.
The coaches job is to run excellent practices and looking back you will see from my comments that we did that every week. It is up to the players to execute in to the game. They were told to be heavy handed, to protect the Duke, to play complementary football, and to get to manageable third downs. Our defensive coordinator was charged with protecting leads and was not able to do that this year. Now he is the head coach ... just saying.
Go McAdoo!
I will look back fondly on my years with the Giants. I only wish I could have had the right players in place to run my system and that I could have had an opportunity to call the plays for Geno.
Wish him well.
Not happy with how it ended, but I can't really say I feel bad for Reese. He made tons of money, probably walking away with 10M in his 401k and his resume looks great. He will land in another organization pretty quickly.
But he was a good GM and helped us tremendously in the past.
That he thanks Ernie Accorsi (which he should) so he goes back to the past- but doesnt thank Tom Coughlin
He thanks Ben McAdoo (the guy who really got him fired) but doesnt thank Eli Manning.
He didnt thank the 2 people most directly responsible for his 2 Super Bowls.
Im guessing he sees himself as the reason behind his titles and probably blames both Coughlin and Eli (probably who he blames for his firing)
In comment 13726046 twostepgiants said:
That he thanks Ernie Accorsi (which he should) so he goes back to the past- but doesnt thank Tom Coughlin
He thanks Ben McAdoo (the guy who really got him fired) but doesnt thank Eli Manning.
He didnt thank the 2 people most directly responsible for his 2 Super Bowls.
Im guessing he sees himself as the reason behind his titles and probably blames both Coughlin and Eli (probably who he blames for his firing)
I do wish the New York "Football" Giants would stop. There hasnt been a New York Giants baseball team in almost 60 years. Not picking just on Reese; I remember Chris Berman using it all the time.
I do wish the New York "Football" Giants would stop. There hasnt been a New York Giants baseball team in almost 60 years. Not picking just on Reese; I remember Chris Berman using it all the time.
That's the official name of the team...it's never changing
I was not always in love with the job he did, but he always seemed to go about things with class.
Well done, and best of luck.
I can't understand why folks say he had a bad last couple of years - maybe OL related, but he nailed FA two years ago - bringing in 3 All Pro types.
I don't know about you but 99% of giant fans remember Antonio Pierce from 2007 superbowl.. he was one of the leader.. most fans also remember K Mitchell and how once Boley and some other key players were healthy we went on the run..
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Took the high road as I suspected he would.
I do wish the New York "Football" Giants would stop. There hasnt been a New York Giants baseball team in almost 60 years. Not picking just on Reese; I remember Chris Berman using it all the time.
That's the official name of the team...it's never changing
Missed my point entirely
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that they don't remember who our linebackers were in our Super Bowls."
I don't know about you but 99% of giant fans remember Antonio Pierce from 2007 superbowl.. he was one of the leader.. most fans also remember K Mitchell and how once Boley and some other key players were healthy we went on the run..
NVM I think it was sarcasm from your part.. I just didn't get it..
Thank you Mr. Reese for your great contributions in helping us win two Super Bowls!
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In comment 13726117 RinR said:
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Took the high road as I suspected he would.
I do wish the New York "Football" Giants would stop. There hasnt been a New York Giants baseball team in almost 60 years. Not picking just on Reese; I remember Chris Berman using it all the time.
That's the official name of the team...it's never changing
Missed my point entirely
You had a point?
It was time to move on for both parties.
McAdoo, otoh, is a fucking asshole.
But he did help deliver two Super Bowl victories; not bad at all.
Classy way to go out.
It was Reese's stubborness with the OL that was his undoing. That said, his statement was classy.
if the investments he made in OL (two firsts and a second) had panned out things would have been very different for him.
and i expect he'll be in the ring of honor some number of years from now.
21st century after all folks. This is actually progress.
Lets see who they bring in here. I was never a big fan,
but a classy exit I guess.
Quoting him a few weeks ago don’t give up on Giants and HC the smartest guy in the room
No way Reese is a gm again.no media skills stuttering muttering idiot
Adios
Mac was just in the right place at the right time, when he got the HC job....
Reese worked his way up to the GM job....But Reese has done nothing since 2011.....if OBj hadn't fallen all the way to the Giants, what would this offense have looked like these last 4 seasons?
It's amazing what has happened to this OL....from the failure of free agents, to using two firsts and one second round draft pick, that haven't panned out.....this OL is no better off now than after the 2012 season...
We had a glimpse of what an average linebacker, in the form of Beason, could do for this defense....and yet we neglected the position....we got out of cap hell, and then jumped right back in, with the 4 big signings on defense......
The last 5 seasons have been a horror show for Reese and this roster....
The question is, who replaces him? The pressure to turn this roster around will be great....never mind picking the next HC.....
Mac was just in the right place at the right time, when he got the HC job....
Reese worked his way up to the GM job....But Reese has done nothing since 2011.....if OBj hadn't fallen all the way to the Giants, what would this offense have looked like these last 4 seasons?
It's amazing what has happened to this OL....from the failure of free agents, to using two firsts and one second round draft pick, that haven't panned out.....this OL is no better off now than after the 2012 season...
We had a glimpse of what an average linebacker, in the form of Beason, could do for this defense....and yet we neglected the position....we got out of cap hell, and then jumped right back in, with the 4 big signings on defense......
The last 5 seasons have been a horror show for Reese and this roster....
The question is, who replaces him? The pressure to turn this roster around will be great....never mind picking the next HC.....
Please, Dumpster, explain how we're back in cap hell.
This ought to be good.
#freshideas
Gatorade Dunk : 12/5/2017 11:03 pm : link : reply
Please, Dumpster, explain how we're back in cap hell.
This ought to be good.
I'd like..
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/5/2017 11:07 pm : link : reply
to know when we were last in "cap hell" in the first place.
Well, Gatorade Drunk and Fatman, do you remember when we didn't even have a few extra million, to re-sign the Black Unicorn? We couldn't sign anyone, because we had no cap room....we ended up with a bargain basement Myers....you remember him don't you? The guy who tripped over chalk lines? That was ONLY 5 years ago....
As soon as TC was gone, all of a sudden we had 200 M to spend on JPP, OV, Snacks, and Jenkins.....those 4 guys now represent almost 40% of the cap.....with Eli, that is like almost 55% of the cap...
Want to re-sign OBj? How about Collins? Where will the money be to sign free agents for the OL, linebackers, and depth?
This was Reese's parting gift to the NY Giants...
We didn't sign Bennett, not because of cap issues, but because he wanted too much money vs. his value.
There are certain positions we didn't and won't overpay for.
I have no idea why you are confusing a player's production (tripping over chalk lines) vs. cap room? Myers was a bad signing, but it wasn't because we didn't have $$ to sign anyone else.
Being in cap hell means you have to cut people or not sign key pieces because you're unable to make moves - it isn't making a move that failed.
Gatorade Dunk : 12/5/2017 11:03 pm : link : reply
Please, Dumpster, explain how we're back in cap hell.
This ought to be good.
I'd like..
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/5/2017 11:07 pm : link : reply
to know when we were last in "cap hell" in the first place.
Well, Gatorade Drunk and Fatman, do you remember when we didn't even have a few extra million, to re-sign the Black Unicorn? We couldn't sign anyone, because we had no cap room....we ended up with a bargain basement Myers....you remember him don't you? The guy who tripped over chalk lines? That was ONLY 5 years ago....
As soon as TC was gone, all of a sudden we had 200 M to spend on JPP, OV, Snacks, and Jenkins.....those 4 guys now represent almost 40% of the cap.....with Eli, that is like almost 55% of the cap...
Want to re-sign OBj? How about Collins? Where will the money be to sign free agents for the OL, linebackers, and depth?
This was Reese's parting gift to the NY Giants...
Those numbers are daunting especially when you consider they still need to rebuild this putrid O-line. Some big decisions will have to be made with the prospect of having to sign Collins and OBJ in the coming years. jerry may have left them with an untenable situation forcing a complete rebuild but I doubt they'll do that. That being said I think JPP and OV are probably the most overpaid DE tandem in the league, thanks,Jerry!
BTW, OBJ didn't fall into Reese's lap, many on here were livid we didn't take Martin or Donald.
RollBlue : 11:51 am : link : reply
Vernon look last year?
Do you remember the lack of a pass rush last year from the front four?
Do you remember the Cleveland and Washington games where JPP had 5 of his 7 sacks? Mathematically, that means, in 10 other games he had 2 sacks....if ever a guy disappeared in big games last year, it was JPP, just like this year....
I give OV a pass for last year with all the injuries he played with last year.....this year he just can't stay on the field....
The reason the defense was good last year had more to do with our DB's and their pass coverage, than our pass rush....
FatMan in Charlotte : 9:41 am : link : reply
We didn't sign Bennett, not because of cap issues, but because he wanted too much money vs. his value.
There are certain positions we didn't and won't overpay for.
I have no idea why you are confusing a player's production (tripping over chalk lines) vs. cap room? Myers was a bad signing, but it wasn't because we didn't have $$ to sign anyone else.
We didn't overpay, mainly because we had no money to overpay....There is no such thing as overpaying, only when you have the money? Myers was a bargain basement substitute....want another example? How about Linval? Yup, no money for him either...
The reason the defense was good last year had more to do with our DB's and their pass coverage, than our pass rush....
Sacks aren't the only indication of a pass rush; I believe OV led the league in hurries last year (or was top 2-3)
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The reason the defense was good last year had more to do with our DB's and their pass coverage, than our pass rush....
Sacks aren't the only indication of a pass rush; I believe OV led the league in hurries last year (or was top 2-3)
He was 2nd in the league in 2016; JPP was tied for 14th
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