Giants coaches and staffers had final game-planning discussions today and sources say the expected result is finalized: Eli Manning is the starting quarterback. On Sunday vs the Cowboys, he’ll extend his streak to one.
Jesus, the Giants could fuck up a wet dream.
Unless plan is to send Webb in at half, this is beyond stupid
You can blame McAdoo for the lack of development of Webb for his lack of preparedness. Eli should be playing. Webb can beat out Geno Smith for the back up spot and you want him to start? With no WR, running game and a shit O Line?
Then you will say Gosh Webb Sucks when he gets his opportunity.
Spags coaching to win the last four games, to try and win himself the head job. Playing an aging known quantity in a lost season while a young, promising player continues to watch. I can see it now, Abrams/Spags GM/HC combo.
Just what the doctor ordered.
Do people still give a crap about the stupid streak? Â
Eli didn't, doubtful he was going to catch Favre anyway. And when it's mentioned in the future it's also going to be along with "Eli's would be longer if not benched for his idiot coach that got fired a few days later".
what the heck makes your happy? Eli is starting... isnt this good? we melted down last week when he was benched, now he is starting and some here are melting down about this.... jeez.
Eli didn't, doubtful he was going to catch Favre anyway. And when it's mentioned in the future it's also going to be along with "Eli's would be longer if not benched for his idiot coach that got fired a few days later".
Seriously, does ANYONE anywhere believe that MacMagoo made the decision to sit Eli.? That order came from MARA/TISCH.
MacMagoo still deserved to be fired after SF game
what the heck makes your happy? Eli is starting... isnt this good? we melted down last week when he was benched, now he is starting and some here are melting down about this.... jeez.
I was perfectly fine with Eli going to the bench and transitioning to the young guys. Not for a second did I have a problem with it. Just how it was presented. Mara should have done it from the outset.
what the heck makes your happy? Eli is starting... isnt this good? we melted down last week when he was benched, now he is starting and some here are melting down about this.... jeez.
I don't think most people melted down because he was benched. Some did. Most melted down because of the unceremonious way in which he was benched. Some people even thought getting Webb in was a good idea.
And then we found Webb wasn't even taking any reps...
It's hard to argue that the Giant's have been all over the place here, and that goes for Mara in addition to McAdoo.
It actually does bother me that his streak went to shit the way it did. Maybe in the grand scheme of things, it's not a big deal.. but it still annoys me because it ended as a result of sheer incompetence.
Is not ever going to be an anti thing against Eli. In fact the way it ended may even help Eli's reputation. People will always remember Eli had an ironman streak going and it was ended because of a nonsensical decision by an incompetent coach that was fired less than a week later.
what the heck makes your happy? Eli is starting... isnt this good? we melted down last week when he was benched, now he is starting and some here are melting down about this.... jeez.
And if the Giants lose Eli and everyone sucks but if they win screw them for screwing up the draft position.
It actually does bother me that his streak went to shit the way it did. Maybe in the grand scheme of things, it's not a big deal.. but it still annoys me because it ended as a result of sheer incompetence.
Kind of in the same boat. The streak is an accomplishment, and it should be respected, but at the same time, it can't take precedence over a decision that's being made on the franchise level. This whole thing was botched though. It shouldn't have ended that way. I would even go so far as to say that they should have fired him before the game if the last straw was how this was handled, but that would have been total chaos.
If I had been McAdoo, I would have made Eli start Â
What gives him the right to say he doesn't want to play if he can't finish the game? I would have said, "Get your ass in there. The streak's end won't get pinned on me."
RE: RE: Do people still give a crap about the stupid streak? Â
Eli didn't, doubtful he was going to catch Favre anyway. And when it's mentioned in the future it's also going to be along with "Eli's would be longer if not benched for his idiot coach that got fired a few days later".
Seriously, does ANYONE anywhere believe that MacMagoo made the decision to sit Eli.? That order came from MARA/TISCH.
MacMagoo still deserved to be fired after SF game
Whoever, you get the point. It's a dumb streak nobody cares about.
Reese picked the kid Webb... he also picked Nassib... think about it. Â
don't get your hopes up too much eli fanboys, this was done purely as a riot and season ticket attrition prevention measure.
Webb has had no reps in practice. McAdoo said as much. You just want to throw the kid in there? You can't seriously be suggesting that career-backup Smith start.
1) Other rookie QB's have come in mid-season and as best as I can tell, the earth hasn't opened up and swallowed us all.
2) Geno - I hate that I sound like I am pulling for him, but the guys has effectively played 2 seasons of football (for the Jets). The idea that he absolutely cannot grow into the position is simply ridiculous and no one on this board is actually smart enough to do anything more than guess. He has all of the physical tools so what you are really talking about it is whether he is coach-able on the areas he needs to improve. Personally I would rather watch him over the next 4 games. We know what Eli is and isn't, and we do not need to risk getting him hurt in meaningless games.
last week, had him split it with Eli. There is no way coaches would just hand him the ball for the rest of the season. Further, Spags was told he's candidate for HC and will be evaluated on remaining games, and Mara told him to go out and win some games. And blame McAdoo for mismanaging Webb's development, not giving him any meaningul practice reps or much playing time in preseason. McAdoo became fixated on proving that Geno Smith was the only missing link for his offense, screw Eli and screw Webb. Webb still may get some game snaps but there's no way the team was going to throw him to the wolves unprepared.
Eli didn't, doubtful he was going to catch Favre anyway. And when it's mentioned in the future it's also going to be along with "Eli's would be longer if not benched for his idiot coach that got fired a few days later".
if Webb doesn't see any game time the rest of the way, then what was the reason from ownership down to start Geno vs raiders? huh? I bet no one could honestly explain that one without saying this giants org is totally inept and laughable.
It actually does bother me that his streak went to shit the way it did. Maybe in the grand scheme of things, it's not a big deal.. but it still annoys me because it ended as a result of sheer incompetence.
Kind of in the same boat. The streak is an accomplishment, and it should be respected, but at the same time, it can't take precedence over a decision that's being made on the franchise level. This whole thing was botched though. It shouldn't have ended that way. I would even go so far as to say that they should have fired him before the game if the last straw was how this was handled, but that would have been total chaos.
Of course. I never wanted Eli to just keep playing because of the streak. It just annoys me that it ended in a way where it stopped when he wasn't injured, AND that he's starting again the very next week.
It was just such a circus. Never should have went down like that. Eli Manning's iron man streak literally ended so that we could start Geno Smith.
If anyone uttered that sentence at any juncture over the last 3 years, that person would have been looked at like they were an absolute lunatic.
interests of the Giants as a football team over the last four games is to tank and give meaningful playing time to Webb and Smith (as well as young players at other positions).
however, the best interests of the Giants as a business is to not lose the ticket, merchandise and concession revenue or see angry protesting Eli fanboys burning McAdoo effigies with their hot dogs and cheeseburgers at tailgate parties.
interests of the Giants as a football team over the last four games is to tank and give meaningful playing time to Webb and Smith (as well as young players at other positions).
however, the best interests of the Giants as a business is to not lose the ticket, merchandise and concession revenue or see angry protesting Eli fanboys burning McAdoo effigies with their hot dogs and cheeseburgers at tailgate parties.
Les for the record I will be burning my Les in TO effigy...
Unless plan is to send Webb in at half, this is beyond stupid
Draft a QB high if there is one you like, continue on with Manning until it's time for the new qb
Unless plan is to send Webb in at half, this is beyond stupid
You can blame McAdoo for the lack of development of Webb for his lack of preparedness. Eli should be playing. Webb can beat out Geno Smith for the back up spot and you want him to start? With no WR, running game and a shit O Line?
Then you will say Gosh Webb Sucks when he gets his opportunity.
Just what the doctor ordered.
In the hearts and minds of all Giant fans at least.
"Eli, get an extra wastebasket from next door, we gotta go through the playbook".
Seriously, does ANYONE anywhere believe that MacMagoo made the decision to sit Eli.? That order came from MARA/TISCH.
MacMagoo still deserved to be fired after SF game
+1000 points
I was perfectly fine with Eli going to the bench and transitioning to the young guys. Not for a second did I have a problem with it. Just how it was presented. Mara should have done it from the outset.
I don't think most people melted down because he was benched. Some did. Most melted down because of the unceremonious way in which he was benched. Some people even thought getting Webb in was a good idea.
And then we found Webb wasn't even taking any reps...
It's hard to argue that the Giant's have been all over the place here, and that goes for Mara in addition to McAdoo.
Unless plan is to send Webb in at half, this is beyond stupid
What is beyond stupid would be to have a rookie play with that OL, and that group of WR and RB...
Have him play in mop up duty? Sure. But start a game?!?!
And if the Giants lose Eli and everyone sucks but if they win screw them for screwing up the draft position.
this.
Kind of in the same boat. The streak is an accomplishment, and it should be respected, but at the same time, it can't take precedence over a decision that's being made on the franchise level. This whole thing was botched though. It shouldn't have ended that way. I would even go so far as to say that they should have fired him before the game if the last straw was how this was handled, but that would have been total chaos.
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Eli didn't, doubtful he was going to catch Favre anyway. And when it's mentioned in the future it's also going to be along with "Eli's would be longer if not benched for his idiot coach that got fired a few days later".
Seriously, does ANYONE anywhere believe that MacMagoo made the decision to sit Eli.? That order came from MARA/TISCH.
MacMagoo still deserved to be fired after SF game
Whoever, you get the point. It's a dumb streak nobody cares about.
This is the correct move.
2) Geno - I hate that I sound like I am pulling for him, but the guys has effectively played 2 seasons of football (for the Jets). The idea that he absolutely cannot grow into the position is simply ridiculous and no one on this board is actually smart enough to do anything more than guess. He has all of the physical tools so what you are really talking about it is whether he is coach-able on the areas he needs to improve. Personally I would rather watch him over the next 4 games. We know what Eli is and isn't, and we do not need to risk getting him hurt in meaningless games.
Unless plan is to send Webb in at half, this is beyond stupid
Yep...getting an unprepared rookie destroyed on every play is crucial to his development.
Did you ask Eli this personally?
Draft a QB high if there is one you like, continue on with Manning until it's time for the new qb
They'll certainly be picking one in the upcoming draft.
I have no idea how it could have been better, but I'm pretty sure it couldn't have been worse.
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It actually does bother me that his streak went to shit the way it did. Maybe in the grand scheme of things, it's not a big deal.. but it still annoys me because it ended as a result of sheer incompetence.
Kind of in the same boat. The streak is an accomplishment, and it should be respected, but at the same time, it can't take precedence over a decision that's being made on the franchise level. This whole thing was botched though. It shouldn't have ended that way. I would even go so far as to say that they should have fired him before the game if the last straw was how this was handled, but that would have been total chaos.
Of course. I never wanted Eli to just keep playing because of the streak. It just annoys me that it ended in a way where it stopped when he wasn't injured, AND that he's starting again the very next week.
It was just such a circus. Never should have went down like that. Eli Manning's iron man streak literally ended so that we could start Geno Smith.
If anyone uttered that sentence at any juncture over the last 3 years, that person would have been looked at like they were an absolute lunatic.
however, the best interests of the Giants as a business is to not lose the ticket, merchandise and concession revenue or see angry protesting Eli fanboys burning McAdoo effigies with their hot dogs and cheeseburgers at tailgate parties.
however, the best interests of the Giants as a business is to not lose the ticket, merchandise and concession revenue or see angry protesting Eli fanboys burning McAdoo effigies with their hot dogs and cheeseburgers at tailgate parties.
Les for the record I will be burning my Les in TO effigy...
I say pretty high..................