and pissed the streak ended the way it did just pathetic from an incompetent moron of a coach.
I am surprised they would announce this though given we are playing the role of spoilers hopefully for the Cowboys. They should have said all three will be active make Dallas game plan all three QB’s. It may not mean shit in the end but at least it is a small advantage going into the game.
In regards to Webb playing to see what the team has in him. The state of this team and O-line there is not a QB alive that anyone could get a good sense of what they have; only shatter building confidence from practice is what would happen. At least Eli knows what he has and can work with it Webb at this point can’t and shouldn’t be out there.
overall productivity whether you put in Eli, Geno or Webb.
So I would just try to get Webb some playing time as much as possible over the remainder of the season since the other two have no future value to speak of.
just sayin...
RE: He deserves to get at least an asterisk . . . . Â
Webb should have been elevated to #2 after 0-5. The team looked incredibly and the final record was assured to be awful. He should have been inserted after we were mathematically eliminated. The idea of him playing garbage time is useless. It provides him less meaningful experience than just throwing him to the wolves. They screwed this up so bad. I hope the Browns manage to win 2-3 games.
So why do you think we were a better team at 0-5 Â
I apparently left out a word. That word was "bad". It should have read "incredibly bad". The rest of the sentence doesn't make sense if it was incredible
Hey Eli, you're really our guy, this whole sitting you to play younger guys was all McAdoo's idea, right?
Come on. What's done is done -this doesn't fix anything and the truth is, evaluating the roster was the RIGHT thing to do for the franchise. At least finding a way to get Webb into games.
This nonsense from Mara about being all in on 2017 again is the worst possible outcome. 2017 is lost and priority should be on future. Meaningless wins can't salvage 2017, but they can kill your chances at a QB prospect for the future.
If this tem wins a game or two here on out, we had better sure as hell enjoy it. It may come at a huge price to franchise.
I apparently left out a word. That word was "bad". It should have read "incredibly bad". The rest of the sentence doesn't make sense if it was incredible
I know. My point is still the same...having Webb going in now versus earlier in the season makes no difference. We sucked then and we suck now.
Get the kid into the huddle, have him make some calls at the line, throw a few bad balls and even a few good ones. It will make him that much more comfortable that he did it when next year starts...
I misunderstood. I was fine with that plan, but with Eli starting for the next game or two, I don't see the value in him say starting just the last 2 games. At least if the goal is to evaluate draft needs. 5 games provides a decent sample size.
RE: There will be no discernible difference between the Offense's Â
overall productivity whether you put in Eli, Geno or Webb.
So I would just try to get Webb some playing time as much as possible over the remainder of the season since the other two have no future value to speak of.
just sayin...
Yeah we know keep saying it all you want but it doesn't make it true...
The dallas game is at the Meadowlands(screw met life). The weather will be cold, windy,dank and disgusting. (I really miss NJ) . The perfect time to test Webb's arm strength and running ability.
Throw him in. lets see of he has courage and smarts.
Lets see if he can handle to BOOS and other things that will come his way.
Show us what you got!!!
I misunderstood. I was fine with that plan, but with Eli starting for the next game or two, I don't see the value in him say starting just the last 2 games. At least if the goal is to evaluate draft needs. 5 games provides a decent sample size.
We should still draft who we want. Webb is an asset of the team that needs real playing time to assess his own capabilities and for the team to assess his.
Eli better damn well win the game then. At the least give us a decent offensive showing. I don't want to boo Eli off the field in his final games, but if he's out there giving us the stinkers we've seen under him the past several games he's going to hear it from me, and I live in Idaho.
Eli better damn well win the game then. At the least give us a decent offensive showing. I don't want to boo Eli off the field in his final games, but if he's out there giving us the stinkers we've seen under him the past several games he's going to hear it from me, and I live in Idaho.
Swami guru Idaho or hole up in a compound and shoot the the black helicopter Idaho? Either is okay by me but for either I’m surprised you’d get direct tv
Swami guru Idaho or hole up in a compound and shoot the the black helicopter Idaho? Either is okay by me but for either I’m surprised you’d get direct tv
Huh?
Not sure I get it (okay, the compound one I get but don't get Swami guru Idaho reference).
Anyway - I just don't get what we're trying to do here. Give Eli a sendoff? I hate what we're seeing from him this year. It sucks. I'd much rather remember him as the guy who made guys like Randle look decent than the guy who can't score TD's. Yes, the entire offense sucks, but that is exactly the reason why I'd rather see the young guy get a shot at it. Who cares if he looks horrible doing it? Are we "saving" him for something in the future? If he sucks, will we not almost definitely draft a better #1?
Just don't see any way this goes well for the franchise UNLESS somehow Eli can give the fans something to cheer for on offense. Based on the collective BBI wisdom that won't happen because NOBODY could play well with what Eli's had to play with. Since we're going to punt 9 times and turn it over another 3-4 times why bother tarnishing Eli's legacy some more or risking an injury to him?
Eli better damn well win the game then. At the least give us a decent offensive showing. I don't want to boo Eli off the field in his final games, but if he's out there giving us the stinkers we've seen under him the past several games he's going to hear it from me, and I live in Idaho.
Dan, you're better than this. You know the qb position can't really function the way things are, whether it's eli or Webb (who i don't think should be in there for his best interest). I think Eli is starting next year as we bring in (via draft) a new beginning.
Eli better damn well win the game then. At the least give us a decent offensive showing. I don't want to boo Eli off the field in his final games, but if he's out there giving us the stinkers we've seen under him the past several games he's going to hear it from me, and I live in Idaho.
With due respect, this is a take I don't really understand.
I think it's clear that they don't feel Davis Webb is ready to play yet. Clearly McAdoo didn't make that any type of priority through the course of the season.
So, if Webb isn't ready, shouldn't Eli continue to play in the interim? Geno has no future here.
There are 3 possibilities when it comes to the Giants QB next year and beyond.
1. Eli Manning
2. Davis Webb
3. A 2018 rookie.. whether that is Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, Jackson, etc...
Geno has no short or long-term future here, so there's really no point in continuing to play him.
That leaves Eli and Webb. If Webb isn't ready, Eli is the answer by process of elimination.
The plan from here on out, in my opinion, should be to continue starting Eli. If and when they feel Webb is ready, they can work him into games if the score gets out of hand or the game no longer seems winnable.
I do believe there can be negative implications if you force a rookie QB into action before he's ready. Especially under really shitty circumstances.
Most of us probably do want to see him play - but not if it's "just because." He needs to be adequately prepared and based on everything that went on with McAdoo, I'm not sure he's there yet.
Eli better damn well win the game then. At the least give us a decent offensive showing. I don't want to boo Eli off the field in his final games, but if he's out there giving us the stinkers we've seen under him the past several games he's going to hear it from me, and I live in Idaho.
Dan, you're better than this. You know the qb position can't really function the way things are, whether it's eli or Webb (who i don't think should be in there for his best interest). I think Eli is starting next year as we bring in (via draft) a new beginning.
I agree with you - which is why it makes absolutely no sense to me to put Eli back in. What do we have to gain from it? Do we want to have the fans booing him (and the offense) again?
What will we do if Eli gets a serious injury that costs him parts of next offseason or heaven forbid, parts of the season? What will we have gained?
We will have placated the mob who was in an uproar over how Eli was treated is the only answer I can come up with.
Frustrated right now, so I may be out of character a bit.
All I know about Idaho is I thought it’s where the hippie culty things are or the right wing isolationists.
Since I didn’t think there was any purpose to not playing Eli, I’m not upset that they will bring him back. I think that whatever they do at this point in the season is meaningless. But different people can feel differently.
Jesus, the Giants could fuck up a wet dream.
Unless plan is to send Webb in at half, this is beyond stupid
You can blame McAdoo for the lack of development of Webb for his lack of preparedness. Eli should be playing. Webb can beat out Geno Smith for the back up spot and you want him to start? With no WR, running game and a shit O Line?
Then you will say Gosh Webb Sucks when he gets his opportunity.
You're completely missing the point. No one wants Webb to start to win the game for us. They want him to start to see what he's got. You can only evaluate a player so much in practice situations. Nothing is like a real game. This is absolutely a dumb move by the Giants which is only being done to quell the emotions of the fanbase. This does the organization absolutely zero good. If Webb plays these last few games and completely sucks, then great, we know what we are working with.
the thing is that Geno might be re-signed next year. We will most certainly need a fourth QB for camp, and that will likely be a vet. We should have a real competition for the backup job next year, unless we believe the draftee is going to be ready day one.
Also, we have nothing to gain from "saving" Webb. Nothing. He needs to get thrown into the fire, imo. Eli did it, took a big-time hit in his first game against Philly iirc, and he came out okay. Why not give Webb some playing time.
I liked the original plan and was disappointed that it fell through. I don't mind Eli starting, but how do you possibly pull him now? And if the org (including the owners) thought it a good idea to see how the backups could do then, what has changed?
Eli better damn well win the game then. At the least give us a decent offensive showing. I don't want to boo Eli off the field in his final games, but if he's out there giving us the stinkers we've seen under him the past several games he's going to hear it from me, and I live in Idaho.
Dan, you're better than this. You know the qb position can't really function the way things are, whether it's eli or Webb (who i don't think should be in there for his best interest). I think Eli is starting next year as we bring in (via draft) a new beginning.
I agree with you - which is why it makes absolutely no sense to me to put Eli back in. What do we have to gain from it? Do we want to have the fans booing him (and the offense) again?
What will we do if Eli gets a serious injury that costs him parts of next offseason or heaven forbid, parts of the season? What will we have gained?
We will have placated the mob who was in an uproar over how Eli was treated is the only answer I can come up with.
Frustrated right now, so I may be out of character a bit.
Dan, I think the Giants want Eli back next year, and this is the best way to go about it. I can't see the new HC or gm wanting to get rid of manning.
Yaah...Eli is starting again next week! That will really help us Â
All I know about Idaho is I thought it’s where the hippie culty things are or the right wing isolationists.
Since I didn’t think there was any purpose to not playing Eli, I’m not upset that they will bring him back. I think that whatever they do at this point in the season is meaningless. But different people can feel differently.
Ahhh - got you. Yes there are some hippie culty things going on. Also the compound-types.
There's also the big sky, beautiful mountains, low tax rates (property taxes low - not the individual tax rates though) and low prices on just about everything else. In today's internet age and with the low cost of travel, Idaho made sense as a final resting stop after a transfer from my days in the banking industry.
Dan, I think the Giants want Eli back next year, and this is the best way to go about it. I can't see the new HC or gm wanting to get rid of manning.
So we go into camp with Eli, draftee, and Webb. Don't we need a fourth QB? Should it be a vet, or should we just trust the young guys with virtually no experience?
Why not let Webb and Geno duke it out? Literally, what do we have to lose by this other than some upset fans?
Seem to value a meaningless streak over winning. I want Eli playing over Geno simply because we have a much better chance to win.
As long as they win, I think most of us will be okay with it. If we get a repeat of opening night (or worse) I can't see how we gain anything at all by starting Eli. Give me one thing we will have gained so I can understand it.
the thing is that Geno might be re-signed next year. We will most certainly need a fourth QB for camp, and that will likely be a vet. We should have a real competition for the backup job next year, unless we believe the draftee is going to be ready day one.
Also, we have nothing to gain from "saving" Webb. Nothing. He needs to get thrown into the fire, imo. Eli did it, took a big-time hit in his first game against Philly iirc, and he came out okay. Why not give Webb some playing time.
I liked the original plan and was disappointed that it fell through. I don't mind Eli starting, but how do you possibly pull him now? And if the org (including the owners) thought it a good idea to see how the backups could do then, what has changed?
Don't get it, big mistake.
We know what Geno is at this point. If they want to re-sign him, it's not like that's off the table. Is anyone really worried about losing Geno Smith?
Rookie Eli and rookie Webb are very different cases.
Eli was the #1 pick. He was taken to be the guy and everyone knew and expected that. Webb was taken in the 3rd round and is more of a project. He doesn't have the pedigree that suggests you can just "throw him into the fire."
And some fans seem annoyed with this notion and poo-poo it, but I do think restoring goodwill with Eli is important so that he remains an option next year should things unfold in a way that lends itself to that.
The last thing we want to do right now is burn bridges.
In 2004, it was known that Eli was going to play as soon as Warner stumbled. That was sort of a given from the start.
For Webb, this was supposed to really be a redshirt year. This staff has not been preparing him to play this season. Not until very recently. I think you need to be careful about just throwing a guy like that onto the field when he's underprepared. He doesn't have Eli's college resume or bloodline - I wouldn't compare the two as apples to apples. I think they're quite different.
I get that everyone wants to see Webb play. And I still think it's possible to get him reps later this month without creating another sour situation with Eli. But there's no reason to force him out there.
Let's not get hung up on who is likely to be kept. All tendencies and patterns that we use to make guesses with might as well get flushed down the toilet.
Because he's the team's best shot at winning -- and that's what it's supposed to be about. If the game gets away from them by more than two scores late, take Eli out and put Webb in. Forget about Geno. Nothing to learn there.
is Giants losing 17-7 in each one. Offense playing like it usually does and not moving the ball, the defense keeping it reasonable but tiring as always. We happen to put up 7 points because of some short field turnover from the opposing team.
Are we allowed to bench Eli and give snaps to Webb in any of these types of games?
If it were up to you "bleeding hearts" the answer would be no.
So Webb will continue to sit...
RE: So lets just say the score of the next 4 games going into 4th QTR Â
is Giants losing 17-7 in each one. Offense playing like it usually does and not moving the ball, the defense keeping it reasonable but tiring as always. We happen to put up 7 points because of some short field turnover from the opposing team.
Are we allowed to bench Eli and give snaps to Webb in any of these types of games?
If it were up to you "bleeding hearts" the answer would be no.
So Webb will continue to sit...
The qb isn't the problem with this offense, putting Webb doesn't mean it'll yield positive results with his growth as a qb. The line, the wr's and the scheme all seem to be a big mess, why put a green qb in to deal with that? That sounds like setting a player up to fail.
RE: RE: There will be no discernible difference between the Offense's Â
overall productivity whether you put in Eli, Geno or Webb.
So I would just try to get Webb some playing time as much as possible over the remainder of the season since the other two have no future value to speak of.
just sayin...
Yeah we know keep saying it all you want but it doesn't make it true...
At least now that your silly wish came true, you can stop calling people shitstains.
Maybe now you can learn how to value the long-term best interests of the team.
I am surprised they would announce this though given we are playing the role of spoilers hopefully for the Cowboys. They should have said all three will be active make Dallas game plan all three QB’s. It may not mean shit in the end but at least it is a small advantage going into the game.
In regards to Webb playing to see what the team has in him. The state of this team and O-line there is not a QB alive that anyone could get a good sense of what they have; only shatter building confidence from practice is what would happen. At least Eli knows what he has and can work with it Webb at this point can’t and shouldn’t be out there.
I, uh, just can't. Thank God Slick is gone.
I don t think Eli agrees though
So I would just try to get Webb some playing time as much as possible over the remainder of the season since the other two have no future value to speak of.
just sayin...
He doesn't have a record. Brett Favre has a record.
I say pretty high..................
How about after his first pick or dink down on third and 15? Will they be doing hand stands or bouncing the ball off their noses?
Can't believe Geno's streak is being broken by an interim head coach.
(hint: we weren't)
I think he was happy to pass his brother. Everything else would have been gravy.
I hate to throw him a bone but that old silly bastard's posting has been insanely great these past few weeks. Ugh.
Come on. What's done is done -this doesn't fix anything and the truth is, evaluating the roster was the RIGHT thing to do for the franchise. At least finding a way to get Webb into games.
This nonsense from Mara about being all in on 2017 again is the worst possible outcome. 2017 is lost and priority should be on future. Meaningless wins can't salvage 2017, but they can kill your chances at a QB prospect for the future.
If this tem wins a game or two here on out, we had better sure as hell enjoy it. It may come at a huge price to franchise.
I know. My point is still the same...having Webb going in now versus earlier in the season makes no difference. We sucked then and we suck now.
Get the kid into the huddle, have him make some calls at the line, throw a few bad balls and even a few good ones. It will make him that much more comfortable that he did it when next year starts...
So I would just try to get Webb some playing time as much as possible over the remainder of the season since the other two have no future value to speak of.
just sayin...
Yeah we know keep saying it all you want but it doesn't make it true...
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I hate to throw him a bone but that old silly bastard's posting has been insanely great these past few weeks. Ugh.
I am many things - old is NOT one of them!
Alright... I'm getting a little old.
Throw him in. lets see of he has courage and smarts.
Lets see if he can handle to BOOS and other things that will come his way.
Show us what you got!!!
We should still draft who we want. Webb is an asset of the team that needs real playing time to assess his own capabilities and for the team to assess his.
Eli better damn well win the game then. At the least give us a decent offensive showing. I don't want to boo Eli off the field in his final games, but if he's out there giving us the stinkers we've seen under him the past several games he's going to hear it from me, and I live in Idaho.
Eli better damn well win the game then. At the least give us a decent offensive showing. I don't want to boo Eli off the field in his final games, but if he's out there giving us the stinkers we've seen under him the past several games he's going to hear it from me, and I live in Idaho.
Huh?
Not sure I get it (okay, the compound one I get but don't get Swami guru Idaho reference).
Anyway - I just don't get what we're trying to do here. Give Eli a sendoff? I hate what we're seeing from him this year. It sucks. I'd much rather remember him as the guy who made guys like Randle look decent than the guy who can't score TD's. Yes, the entire offense sucks, but that is exactly the reason why I'd rather see the young guy get a shot at it. Who cares if he looks horrible doing it? Are we "saving" him for something in the future? If he sucks, will we not almost definitely draft a better #1?
Just don't see any way this goes well for the franchise UNLESS somehow Eli can give the fans something to cheer for on offense. Based on the collective BBI wisdom that won't happen because NOBODY could play well with what Eli's had to play with. Since we're going to punt 9 times and turn it over another 3-4 times why bother tarnishing Eli's legacy some more or risking an injury to him?
Eli better damn well win the game then. At the least give us a decent offensive showing. I don't want to boo Eli off the field in his final games, but if he's out there giving us the stinkers we've seen under him the past several games he's going to hear it from me, and I live in Idaho.
Dan, you're better than this. You know the qb position can't really function the way things are, whether it's eli or Webb (who i don't think should be in there for his best interest). I think Eli is starting next year as we bring in (via draft) a new beginning.
Eli better damn well win the game then. At the least give us a decent offensive showing. I don't want to boo Eli off the field in his final games, but if he's out there giving us the stinkers we've seen under him the past several games he's going to hear it from me, and I live in Idaho.
With due respect, this is a take I don't really understand.
I think it's clear that they don't feel Davis Webb is ready to play yet. Clearly McAdoo didn't make that any type of priority through the course of the season.
So, if Webb isn't ready, shouldn't Eli continue to play in the interim? Geno has no future here.
There are 3 possibilities when it comes to the Giants QB next year and beyond.
1. Eli Manning
2. Davis Webb
3. A 2018 rookie.. whether that is Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, Jackson, etc...
Geno has no short or long-term future here, so there's really no point in continuing to play him.
That leaves Eli and Webb. If Webb isn't ready, Eli is the answer by process of elimination.
The plan from here on out, in my opinion, should be to continue starting Eli. If and when they feel Webb is ready, they can work him into games if the score gets out of hand or the game no longer seems winnable.
I do believe there can be negative implications if you force a rookie QB into action before he's ready. Especially under really shitty circumstances.
Most of us probably do want to see him play - but not if it's "just because." He needs to be adequately prepared and based on everything that went on with McAdoo, I'm not sure he's there yet.
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not thrilled with this development.
Eli better damn well win the game then. At the least give us a decent offensive showing. I don't want to boo Eli off the field in his final games, but if he's out there giving us the stinkers we've seen under him the past several games he's going to hear it from me, and I live in Idaho.
Dan, you're better than this. You know the qb position can't really function the way things are, whether it's eli or Webb (who i don't think should be in there for his best interest). I think Eli is starting next year as we bring in (via draft) a new beginning.
I agree with you - which is why it makes absolutely no sense to me to put Eli back in. What do we have to gain from it? Do we want to have the fans booing him (and the offense) again?
What will we do if Eli gets a serious injury that costs him parts of next offseason or heaven forbid, parts of the season? What will we have gained?
We will have placated the mob who was in an uproar over how Eli was treated is the only answer I can come up with.
Frustrated right now, so I may be out of character a bit.
Since I didn’t think there was any purpose to not playing Eli, I’m not upset that they will bring him back. I think that whatever they do at this point in the season is meaningless. But different people can feel differently.
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Jesus, the Giants could fuck up a wet dream.
Unless plan is to send Webb in at half, this is beyond stupid
You can blame McAdoo for the lack of development of Webb for his lack of preparedness. Eli should be playing. Webb can beat out Geno Smith for the back up spot and you want him to start? With no WR, running game and a shit O Line?
Then you will say Gosh Webb Sucks when he gets his opportunity.
You're completely missing the point. No one wants Webb to start to win the game for us. They want him to start to see what he's got. You can only evaluate a player so much in practice situations. Nothing is like a real game. This is absolutely a dumb move by the Giants which is only being done to quell the emotions of the fanbase. This does the organization absolutely zero good. If Webb plays these last few games and completely sucks, then great, we know what we are working with.
Also, we have nothing to gain from "saving" Webb. Nothing. He needs to get thrown into the fire, imo. Eli did it, took a big-time hit in his first game against Philly iirc, and he came out okay. Why not give Webb some playing time.
I liked the original plan and was disappointed that it fell through. I don't mind Eli starting, but how do you possibly pull him now? And if the org (including the owners) thought it a good idea to see how the backups could do then, what has changed?
Don't get it, big mistake.
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not thrilled with this development.
Eli better damn well win the game then. At the least give us a decent offensive showing. I don't want to boo Eli off the field in his final games, but if he's out there giving us the stinkers we've seen under him the past several games he's going to hear it from me, and I live in Idaho.
Dan, you're better than this. You know the qb position can't really function the way things are, whether it's eli or Webb (who i don't think should be in there for his best interest). I think Eli is starting next year as we bring in (via draft) a new beginning.
I agree with you - which is why it makes absolutely no sense to me to put Eli back in. What do we have to gain from it? Do we want to have the fans booing him (and the offense) again?
What will we do if Eli gets a serious injury that costs him parts of next offseason or heaven forbid, parts of the season? What will we have gained?
We will have placated the mob who was in an uproar over how Eli was treated is the only answer I can come up with.
Frustrated right now, so I may be out of character a bit.
Dan, I think the Giants want Eli back next year, and this is the best way to go about it. I can't see the new HC or gm wanting to get rid of manning.
Since I didn’t think there was any purpose to not playing Eli, I’m not upset that they will bring him back. I think that whatever they do at this point in the season is meaningless. But different people can feel differently.
Ahhh - got you. Yes there are some hippie culty things going on. Also the compound-types.
There's also the big sky, beautiful mountains, low tax rates (property taxes low - not the individual tax rates though) and low prices on just about everything else. In today's internet age and with the low cost of travel, Idaho made sense as a final resting stop after a transfer from my days in the banking industry.
Dan, I think the Giants want Eli back next year, and this is the best way to go about it. I can't see the new HC or gm wanting to get rid of manning.
So we go into camp with Eli, draftee, and Webb. Don't we need a fourth QB? Should it be a vet, or should we just trust the young guys with virtually no experience?
Why not let Webb and Geno duke it out? Literally, what do we have to lose by this other than some upset fans?
As long as they win, I think most of us will be okay with it. If we get a repeat of opening night (or worse) I can't see how we gain anything at all by starting Eli. Give me one thing we will have gained so I can understand it.
Also, we have nothing to gain from "saving" Webb. Nothing. He needs to get thrown into the fire, imo. Eli did it, took a big-time hit in his first game against Philly iirc, and he came out okay. Why not give Webb some playing time.
I liked the original plan and was disappointed that it fell through. I don't mind Eli starting, but how do you possibly pull him now? And if the org (including the owners) thought it a good idea to see how the backups could do then, what has changed?
Don't get it, big mistake.
We know what Geno is at this point. If they want to re-sign him, it's not like that's off the table. Is anyone really worried about losing Geno Smith?
Rookie Eli and rookie Webb are very different cases.
Eli was the #1 pick. He was taken to be the guy and everyone knew and expected that. Webb was taken in the 3rd round and is more of a project. He doesn't have the pedigree that suggests you can just "throw him into the fire."
And some fans seem annoyed with this notion and poo-poo it, but I do think restoring goodwill with Eli is important so that he remains an option next year should things unfold in a way that lends itself to that.
The last thing we want to do right now is burn bridges.
In 2004, it was known that Eli was going to play as soon as Warner stumbled. That was sort of a given from the start.
For Webb, this was supposed to really be a redshirt year. This staff has not been preparing him to play this season. Not until very recently. I think you need to be careful about just throwing a guy like that onto the field when he's underprepared. He doesn't have Eli's college resume or bloodline - I wouldn't compare the two as apples to apples. I think they're quite different.
I get that everyone wants to see Webb play. And I still think it's possible to get him reps later this month without creating another sour situation with Eli. But there's no reason to force him out there.
Manning starts because it's the right thing for the perception and long-term credibility of the franchise.
Smith and Webb slowly take on more/some 2nd then 1st string reps in practice.
When the games inevitably get out of hand, and they will because the team sucks and all the good players are hurt, you work the backups in.
Manning will play his ass off because of pride and wanting to continue his career.
When he's not under center you get to evaluate him, his replacement and the other players all at the same time.
And if anyone complains they can move on after the year.
Are we allowed to bench Eli and give snaps to Webb in any of these types of games?
If it were up to you "bleeding hearts" the answer would be no.
So Webb will continue to sit...
Are we allowed to bench Eli and give snaps to Webb in any of these types of games?
If it were up to you "bleeding hearts" the answer would be no.
So Webb will continue to sit...
The qb isn't the problem with this offense, putting Webb doesn't mean it'll yield positive results with his growth as a qb. The line, the wr's and the scheme all seem to be a big mess, why put a green qb in to deal with that? That sounds like setting a player up to fail.
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overall productivity whether you put in Eli, Geno or Webb.
So I would just try to get Webb some playing time as much as possible over the remainder of the season since the other two have no future value to speak of.
just sayin...
Yeah we know keep saying it all you want but it doesn't make it true...
At least now that your silly wish came true, you can stop calling people shitstains.
Maybe now you can learn how to value the long-term best interests of the team.