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Paul Schwartz: Dave Gettleman & Josh McDaniels

Beezer : 12/5/2017 5:40 pm
Sorry if this has been posted somewhere. I didn’t have a chance to be all over the site throughout the day but I just heard this on the drive home. Thought it was worth putting up. Schwartz was on with Doug Gottlieb.

He said he thinks with Ernie Accorsi in the fold now, he thinks Gettleman is a very good possibility for the next Giants GM. Gettleman, IMO, would be a safe, solid choice, with his most recent success being the Carolina Panthers.

Schwartz also talked about likely choices for head coach and he pointed to McDaniels, who was NOT a good head coach the last time around for him. One interesting similarity to Ben McAdoo, McDaniels also was fired after his 28th game as head coach. Schwartz said McDaniels went off to sharpen his skills under Bill Belichick, and he said he believes Bill would give his blessing, given his relationship with the Maras.

He added that he thinks McAdoo might do well to follow McDaniels’ example, go work in a solid program under a vet, and hone his skills.

FWIW

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As said above, Gettleman is fucking 67  
The_Boss : 12/5/2017 10:58 pm : link
What’s he gonna do? Continue to fuck up what Reese already botched and then hand shit over to Marc Ross? We have to do better than that.
RE: Jon Gruden  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/5/2017 11:40 pm : link
In comment 13726812 McNally's_Nuts said:
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has this aura around him that he’s some sort of QB whisperer.

He’s never developed a quarterback with either team he coached.


Accurate.
Look, I don't want Gruden  
Greg from LI : 12/6/2017 12:32 am : link
But while he may not have developed Gannon, he sure got a lot more out of him than anyone else did.
He was good at working with veteran quarterbacks  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/6/2017 12:44 am : link
The success with Brad Johnson and Rich Gannon can't be debated, but what Jon has been able to make people forget all about thru the magic of TV was this carousel of sadness he wanted to work with. These guys all started for Gruden once Brad Johnson left town: Rob Johnson, Tim Rattay, Luke McCown, Bruce Gradkowski, Chris Simms, Jeff Garcia, Brian Griese.
Wish someone could explain to me  
SeanLandeta : 12/6/2017 6:48 am : link
the obsession with patriot retreads. There is no long line of success that flows outward from that organization. Quite the opposite since most players, coaches, and GMs to leave there have failed elsewhere (including the one being talked about now) with few exceptions. And, the exceptions have been far from stellar...pedestrian is a better description.

With that track record, why would anyone continue to look to them as a source for the next HC or GM. I'd stay away from them completely - wouldn't even get a glance.

There have got to be many better options elsewhere.
RE: Look, I don't want Gruden  
Jay on the Island : 12/6/2017 10:05 am : link
In comment 13726957 Greg from LI said:
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But while he may not have developed Gannon, he sure got a lot more out of him than anyone else did.

How did he not help Gannon? Gannon was a 34 year old journeyman when he arrived with Gruden. Gruden turned him into a top 5 QB. Brian Griese also had the best season of his career under Gruden in 2004.
RE: RE: Look, I don't want Gruden  
Jay on the Island : 12/6/2017 10:05 am : link
In comment 13727303 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13726957 Greg from LI said:


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But while he may not have developed Gannon, he sure got a lot more out of him than anyone else did.


How did he not help Gannon? Gannon was a 34 year old journeyman when he arrived with Gruden. Gruden turned him into a top 5 QB. Brian Griese also had the best season of his career under Gruden in 2004.

Wow I need coffee. Sorry Greg I misread your post.
I don't want Gettleman  
Jay on the Island : 12/6/2017 10:07 am : link
It would be more of the same. The Giants need a new direction. Gettleman failed to address the offensive line in Carolina. The Giants need to bring in some new blood.
RE: Question  
Section331 : 12/6/2017 10:13 am : link
In comment 13726470 Dragon said:
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Why would Bill Belichick tell anyone to join this organization with the way they treated him and this fuck show they just did to JR and McAdoo? If you really think about this no one would recommend the Hiants as a franchise to go to at this time. I know George Steinbrenner was a mother as an owner but he just wanted to win what do these Giants owners want to save face, not hurt the Manning or name or win?


You haven't embarrassed yourself enough with your Ben McAdoo ass-kissing? Or your wish that Eli break his neck in the first half of the Dallas game? By any measure, you should have had your account suspended, but carry on with your drivel.
RE: Question  
Jay on the Island : 12/6/2017 10:30 am : link
In comment 13726470 Dragon said:
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Why would Bill Belichick tell anyone to join this organization with the way they treated him and this fuck show they just did to JR and McAdoo? If you really think about this no one would recommend the Hiants as a franchise to go to at this time. I know George Steinbrenner was a mother as an owner but he just wanted to win what do these Giants owners want to save face, not hurt the Manning or name or win?

I guess you missed Belichick's return visit to Giants stadium a couple of years ago where he was all emotional and even cried on camera. Don't let that stop you from posting bs.
no to gruden and mcdaniels  
xtian : 12/6/2017 4:32 pm : link
gruden is long out of the game. shouldn't even entertain it.

mcdaniels was horrific in denver--i was living there at the time--all he did was alienate everyone including young qb cutler and wr marshall who were all-pros--don't think cutler ever recovered. he seemed dedicated to destroying the team, and after he did, went back to new england with a wrecked franchise that NE didn't have to worry about. maybe he learned, but i'm not sure he has the personality to be a good head coach. also he cannot have good feelings about the giants who beat the patriots twice in the super bowl. i don't trust him.

gettleman i could definitely see. he has history with the giants and he has done well in carolina. i would be happy with that hire. his first draft pick will be a franchise qb. ernie knows something about that and i trust they would pick well.
gettleman--additional thoughts  
xtian : 12/6/2017 4:38 pm : link
i just stated i would be happy with gettleman, but i didn't realize he was so old [my bad] and would prefer someone younger unless there is something like a 5-year plan to train his replacement aka ernie style.
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