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Thoughts on Jim Harbaugh?

adamg : 12/5/2017 8:19 pm
Looking at the HC prospects out there, I'm seeing Harbaugh as among the best guys who may be on the market. Is he a bad fit in anyone's estimation or could he be a good guy who can turn our leadership problem around? He seemed to have a lot of success in SF despite his short stay. I'd take playoff appearances in 3 out of 4 years...
I'm a Michigan fan and I can't believe he would leave Michigan  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 12/5/2017 8:23 pm : link
he hasn't achieved the level of success there he wants as his lasting impact. His wife and family love Ann Arbor. I just don't see it.
RE: I'm a Michigan fan and I can't believe he would leave Michigan  
adamg : 12/5/2017 8:24 pm : link
In comment 13726712 Bold Ruler said:
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he hasn't achieved the level of success there he wants as his lasting impact. His wife and family love Ann Arbor. I just don't see it.


Thanks for the heads up. You don't think the lure of a franchise like the Giants would do it, eh?
The new GM will pick the new HC. You can speculate all you want but it  
plato : 12/5/2017 8:25 pm : link
Doesn't matter until a new GM is in place. And that's the big and critical issue. In many ways the GM puts the stamp and character on the team, the HC carries out the field game with the team the GM gives him. It's what annoyed Parcells that George Young picked the team he had to lead and develop. The Maras accept this model, so HC guesses are for now a waste of time
I mean,...look. He was in the Pros. He had achieved great success  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 12/5/2017 8:26 pm : link
in a short time at San Fran. Yes, that last season things went bad and he was clashing with the GM. But what drew him to college was his alma matter, Michigan. You talk about a 'Michigan Man'? That is 100% Jim Harbaugh. Keep in mind, this roster isn't even full of his recruits yet. He hasn't even had a capable QB yet. He would be walking away from the institution that means more to him than anything else on Earth and leave unfinished business.

Anything is possible. But I just can't possibly imagine Harbaugh leaving yet. Not yet...
RE: The new GM will pick the new HC. You can speculate all you want but it  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 12/5/2017 8:27 pm : link
In comment 13726718 plato said:
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Doesn't matter until a new GM is in place. And that's the big and critical issue. In many ways the GM puts the stamp and character on the team, the HC carries out the field game with the team the GM gives him. It's what annoyed Parcells that George Young picked the team he had to lead and develop. The Maras accept this model, so HC guesses are for now a waste of time


Plato...those who are floating Harbaugh's name are eyeing him for both GM/HC. I can't see it happening, but just saying.
I'd take him  
jeff57 : 12/5/2017 8:28 pm : link
But there would have to be a GM he could work with.
RE: I'm a Michigan fan and I can't believe he would leave Michigan  
bw in dc : 12/5/2017 8:29 pm : link
In comment 13726712 Bold Ruler said:
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he hasn't achieved the level of success there he wants as his lasting impact. His wife and family love Ann Arbor. I just don't see it.


Right. But still worth a call...
IMO he comes across as a runner  
montanagiant : 12/5/2017 8:30 pm : link
As in runs away the minute things go bad. I just don't see him as a Giant HC in the least
It would be an outside-the-box choice for the Giants.  
81_Great_Dane : 12/5/2017 8:31 pm : link
He's not the kind of personality they tend to like. He's also got that Larry Brown thing, where he doesn't seem to stay in one place very long. The Giants won't like that.

But it's a mess there. An outside-the-box choice is possible.
The Giants have no interest  
Giant John : 12/5/2017 8:31 pm : link
In this guy. Why are names like this even suggested. Waste.
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arcarsenal : 12/5/2017 8:33 pm : link
I can't see him bailing on Michigan before he really fields the team he wants there. That's one job I don't think he'll leave unfinished.

If he was willing to come here, I'd certainly be interested - I think he's a very good football coach.

I'd prefer his brother, actually - but the Ravens would be stupid to let him walk.
Giants aren't hiring a weirdo  
B in ALB : 12/5/2017 8:33 pm : link
his place is in college where his personality resonates with young kids.

Mara and co aren't going from Simple Ben to Weirdo Harbaugh.

That San Francisco team back in the day had enough talent that my dingleberries could have coach them to a NFC championship game.
RE: The Giants have no interest  
arcarsenal : 12/5/2017 8:33 pm : link
In comment 13726731 Giant John said:
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In this guy. Why are names like this even suggested. Waste.


How do you know they have no interest in him? Can you actually provide proof of that or are you just stating opinion as fact?
No  
AcidTest : 12/5/2017 8:37 pm : link
way.
It should be mentioned  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 12/5/2017 8:39 pm : link
that the new GM likely won't have total control over selecting a HC. Mara will be heavily involved I'm sure.

But yes, the GM spot needs to be filled first.
My  
cokeduplt : 12/5/2017 8:41 pm : link
First choice proven winner. Idk why anyone wouldnt want him.
RE: RE: I'm a Michigan fan and I can't believe he would leave Michigan  
Beer Man : 12/5/2017 8:43 pm : link
In comment 13726715 adamg said:
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In comment 13726712 Bold Ruler said:


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he hasn't achieved the level of success there he wants as his lasting impact. His wife and family love Ann Arbor. I just don't see it.



Thanks for the heads up. You don't think the lure of a franchise like the Giants would do it, eh?
A franchise like the Giants might do it, but if he and his wife are in love with the Ann Arbor life style, New York living will be just a little too much hustle and bustle; not to mention Ann Arbor is a great place to raise kids.
I will say this...Harbaugh is a players coach and he develops QBs  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 12/5/2017 8:46 pm : link
The Giants need someone to nurture a roster and develop a QB who is going to be taken in the 1st round. He may be a blow hard but his skill set is perfect for where the Giants are right now. But he'd want control and the Giants are going to give him that. And...he isn't leaving Michigan IMO. Still...he's the guy I'd want.
*aren't* going to to give him that  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 12/5/2017 8:46 pm : link
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Hell get fired from there soon  
Sammo85 : 12/5/2017 8:46 pm : link
Hes already been there three years. His recruits have been meh so far. Next season is big for him. I expect him to be fired two years from now.

I think hes a better pro coach than college coach.
Harbaugh  
lugnut : 12/5/2017 8:48 pm : link
Evidently just got the best HS QB from 2 years ago to leave whatever school he's at now to come to Mich. Along with a couple other players. He might finally have "his guys" -- can't imagine he'd leave now.
RE: The Giants have no interest  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 12/5/2017 8:51 pm : link
In comment 13726731 Giant John said:
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In this guy. Why are names like this even suggested. Waste.


Have a source or are you talking out your ass?
Harbaugh will never leave Ann Arbor  
Ed in Ann Arbor : 12/5/2017 9:16 pm : link
Ann Arbor is his home. The link will explain it. He has his dream job. Make as much as a pro coach. He has everything he has ever wanted. He will live here for the rest of his life.
harbaugh's Home - ( New Window )
Head Case  
clatterbuck : 12/5/2017 9:20 pm : link
No.
I can guarantee that Harbaugh  
B in ALB : 12/5/2017 9:24 pm : link
is on the list. And it's not a huge list so far. And don't bother asking me.

That said. The GM is a much more important hire for this team right now and needs to be locked in before the HC is solidified.
Parcells was a  
Manny in CA : 12/5/2017 9:32 pm : link
Did pretty good here. I bet Jim's tired of seeing brother John's SB ring at the Christmas dinner table.

He can make it right, and forget this picture ...





Jim Harbaugh is not  
section125 : 12/5/2017 9:35 pm : link
leaving Michigan and Michigan is not getting rid of him anytime soon.
for all the reasons already mentioned  
UESBLUE : 12/5/2017 9:40 pm : link
and as a 3 generation MIchigan legacy family here, I can assure you JH is not leaving A2.
Parcells was a "head case" ...  
Manny in CA : 12/5/2017 9:41 pm : link

too.

Out of the eight 49s clearly visible; four couldn't bear to look, in this photo. My biggest sports moment, sitting in the stands at Candlestick that night !
After the way  
tony71 : 12/5/2017 10:09 pm : link
He treated. Brandon Jacobs and Manningham, Id think twice about this guy mental state. Seems from what I remember of the reports coming out, he holds a grudge and acts like a spoiled kid throwing a fit.
People who think Harbaugh will leave Michigan  
RobCarpenter : 12/5/2017 10:11 pm : link
Really dont know anything about him. He grew up in A2, lives next to his parents, just had a kid, his other kids go the same school he went to as a kid.

He loves Michigan.
Harbaugh + NY = Toxic  
CT Charlie : 12/5/2017 10:12 pm : link
Mara would never hire him. Next!
He's suited for college  
Greg from LI : 12/5/2017 10:13 pm : link
His act wears thin after a few years.
I think it's kind of arrogant to think we could get him.  
Rico : 12/5/2017 10:24 pm : link
He makes $9M per year at Michigan. The Giants would never pay that for a head coach.

He went to high school literally across the street from the Big House. He is at home, and he is a huge celebrity in his home town.

He is only three years in and has unfinished business.

I would be shocked if he left Michigan.
I think hes a good coach  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/5/2017 11:48 pm : link
But before we start listing him as a potential solution, I feel like we should be concerned that hes not necessarily delivering in his current job.
RE: I'm a Michigan fan and I can't believe he would leave Michigan  
Vanzetti : 12/5/2017 11:59 pm : link
In comment 13726712 Bold Ruler said:
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he hasn't achieved the level of success there he wants as his lasting impact. His wife and family love Ann Arbor. I just don't see it.


He doesn't have the personality to recruit. Too intense and completely lacking in charm, unlike, say Nick Saban, who can lay that ole southern charm on the family of big recruits.
Michigan has zero five star recruits for 2018  
Vanzetti : 12/6/2017 12:07 am : link
Ohio State has 3
Clemson and Georgia 2

Still time but recruiting does not seem to be Harbaugh's strength. He is better suited for the NFL.

He is a terrific coach and I would love the Giants to get him and I think he would take the job if they made him one of the top five paid coaches in the NFL.

But like Charlie said above, it's unlikely the Maras are going to hire a lightening rod like Harbaugh.
I don't want weekly GIFs of the guy  
montanagiant : 12/6/2017 12:11 am : link
with all those sideline antics he does. There are better options out there
Hes a douche  
Damon : 12/6/2017 1:00 am : link
No.
Douchey McDoucherson.  
Beezer : 12/6/2017 5:49 am : link

No.

Fucking.

Way.
Great coach  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/6/2017 7:12 am : link
I don't see him leaving Michigan. Nor do I want him to.
I would be embarrassed.  
Bill L : 12/6/2017 7:13 am : link
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what beezer said  
Victor in CT : 12/6/2017 8:23 am : link
he has that face you would love to punch.
Agree with this...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/6/2017 8:37 am : link
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He's suited for college
Greg from LI : 12/5/2017 10:13 pm : link : reply
His act wears thin after a few years.


Guys like Harbaugh and Rex Ryan will almost always give an initial bump and they'll have moderate success. But they have an act that only works when teams are winning. Once the losses pile up, their brusque attitudes and sarcastic quips get both them and the team a lot of negative attention.

Not many established teams want to intentionally bring the circus to town.
RE: Hes a douche  
GiantsLaw : 12/6/2017 10:06 am : link
In comment 13726965 Damon said:
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No.
+1000
Can you imagine Jim Harbaugh...  
Racer : 12/6/2017 10:13 am : link
..fielding clickbait-inspired questions from Jordan Raanan every week?
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