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ron mexico : 12/6/2017 1:04 pm
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RE: Understand that everything Francessa says is self serving.  
UConn4523 : 12/6/2017 1:57 pm : link
In comment 13727800 Keith said:
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If a player doesn't do his interview or upsets big bad Mikey, that player will be on Francessa's sh*t list for the rest of his career.


Francessa was asked if he was the new GM would he get rid of Beckham and he did say no. I never really got the feeling that he hates Beckham. He's said numerous times that people need to stop caring what players do on their free time and that he'd resign him.
He has more tweets than receiving yards  
EricJ : 12/6/2017 2:01 pm : link
... over the past 12 months. He is great at playing the "victim" and takes absolutely no ownership or responsibility for the things that he has done to contribute to his situation.
what's my agenda?  
Rocky369 : 12/6/2017 2:03 pm : link
you misstated the facts, not me.

Brady has missed more games due to his actions than Beckham. According to your statements, we ignore Brady's actions and suspensions, but not Beckham's.

Beckham didn't play great in a playoff game. Brady led a 50 ppg team to the Super Bowl and scored how many points?

No one has earned or deserves a double standard.
RE: what's my agenda?  
pjcas18 : 12/6/2017 2:04 pm : link
In comment 13727847 Rocky369 said:
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you misstated the facts, not me.

Brady has missed more games due to his actions than Beckham. According to your statements, we ignore Brady's actions and suspensions, but not Beckham's.

Beckham didn't play great in a playoff game. Brady led a 50 ppg team to the Super Bowl and scored how many points?

No one has earned or deserves a double standard.


Ok.
Go Terps incoming  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/6/2017 2:05 pm : link
3...2....
RE: What wont go well?  
gmenatlarge : 12/6/2017 2:09 pm : link
In comment 13727704 jlukes said:
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he posted a video of clips of Brady and him being very vocal and emotional on the field.

His tweets from earlier this week were spot on - it is a double standard.


You're right, it is a double standard. Brady has 5 rings and runs the offense, OBJ has won nothing, didn't show up in his one playoff game last year and acts like a child on the sideline. Case closed.
Beckham  
ThatLimerickGuy : 12/6/2017 2:11 pm : link
lacks self - awareness.

The criticism of Beckham is not because of his passion on the field. We all love that about him.

It's because he pees like a god damned dog in the end zone, gets repeated 15 yard penalties without caring about the team ramifications and kisses a kicking net on the sideline, not to mention gets into a brawl with an opposing DB.

You can't have it both ways Odell. You are either a fiery competitor who respects the game and his teammates like Brady or you are a self-absorbed man-child.

Pick one.
The caption on his post is "Goat chasin."  
BigBluDawg : 12/6/2017 2:12 pm : link
Where did he complain about a double standard ??? Seems to me he's acknowledging that Brady is one of the greatest of all time and that's the status he wants to achieve.
and how many rings does OBJ own?  
SHO'NUFF : 12/6/2017 2:12 pm : link
maybe he should be more concerned with Eli than Brady...
RE: The caption on his post is  
Bill L : 12/6/2017 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13727873 BigBluDawg said:
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Where did he complain about a double standard ??? Seems to me he's acknowledging that Brady is one of the greatest of all time and that's the status he wants to achieve.
There was a story within the past week where he was claiming that there was a double standard. This is a follow-up to that.
RE: RE: RE: Anyone who suggests that we need to rid  
gmenatlarge : 12/6/2017 2:14 pm : link
In comment 13727791 pjcas18 said:
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ourselves of OBJ is a complete fool. Its really that simple.


Agreed. You do not trade away a young talent like Odell



Absolutely, Beckham is a unique talent that you build around


I don't see building around a WR, they are the last guy in the chain. This is the thinking JR has had which has left us with no O-line. You could have the best WR corps in history, but it's not gonna help when the QB is flat on his back. This O is putrid so it's pretty easy to double beckham on every play!
This was posted by his mom yesterday  
BigBlueHens : 12/6/2017 2:14 pm : link
He just reposted it, this video has been out for a day already. While he is spot on with the double standards, and it's a good comparison between himself and Brady, he won't get the respect because he doesn't have the rings like Brady. While Odell's antics hurt the team, and the penalties need to stop, the passion needs to continue.
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Matt M. : 12/6/2017 2:15 pm : link
In comment 13727703 arcarsenal said:
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He obviously looks up to Brady a good deal. I could think of about 500 worse players to idolize.

But I already know where this thread will predictably go...

He's not Brady, doesn't have the hardware, thus he shouldn't compare himself. Etc, etc. etc.
I don't think it's comparing himself as much as, in his mind, backing up his comments from the other day about the double standard. He's showing similar antics in Brady that Brady is praised for and he is criticized for.
who cares  
hitdog42 : 12/6/2017 2:16 pm : link
really... who cares?
so the teams best player looks up to tom brady... and is highlighting that passion has been key for tom... and its part of what drives him.

big sh$t... and so what if he feels like a victim a bit of overfocus on his negatives... really who cares? i dont.

the facts are this.
entered league and made a top 5 all time catch that put him on map in primetime playing against americas team and for NYCs team.
had best first 3yrs ever for a player.
Got into bad scuffle with Josh Norman.
Went on a boat then sucked in the game.

is there anything to get overemotional about here. THE BEST PLAYER ON THE TEAM WANTS TO BE GREAT AND LOOKS UP TO TOM BRADY.

or you can be a out of touch with the current reality of sports and media person and act like he should just SHUT UP AND DO WHAT THE 86 GIANTS WOULD DO. or some other garbage.

RE: RE: The caption on his post is  
BigBluDawg : 12/6/2017 2:20 pm : link
In comment 13727878 Bill L said:
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In comment 13727873 BigBluDawg said:


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Where did he complain about a double standard ??? Seems to me he's acknowledging that Brady is one of the greatest of all time and that's the status he wants to achieve.

There was a story within the past week where he was claiming that there was a double standard. This is a follow-up to that.


Oh ok I must've missed that thread ... Thanks
RE: RE: RE: The caption on his post is  
Bill L : 12/6/2017 2:24 pm : link
In comment 13727909 BigBluDawg said:
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In comment 13727873 BigBluDawg said:


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Where did he complain about a double standard ??? Seems to me he's acknowledging that Brady is one of the greatest of all time and that's the status he wants to achieve.

There was a story within the past week where he was claiming that there was a double standard. This is a follow-up to that.



Oh ok I must've missed that thread ... Thanks
I think that there were a few, but this is an example...
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arcarsenal : 12/6/2017 2:24 pm : link
In comment 13727887 Matt M. said:
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He obviously looks up to Brady a good deal. I could think of about 500 worse players to idolize.

But I already know where this thread will predictably go...

He's not Brady, doesn't have the hardware, thus he shouldn't compare himself. Etc, etc. etc.

I don't think it's comparing himself as much as, in his mind, backing up his comments from the other day about the double standard. He's showing similar antics in Brady that Brady is praised for and he is criticized for.


I think he has great respect for Brady and aspires to be on that level (albeit, at a different position)

But yes, obviously the point was to depict that he's often vilified for many of the same actions that Brady is praised for. Therein lies the double standard.

I think you can acknowledge that while also believing that Odell still has a little growing up to do.

But - if people haven't noticed, the further ahead we get, the further back people have to reach to point out things he's done that bother them.

The dog pissing celebration was literally his worst offense this year. He didn't do a single other thing that hurt the team.

The kicking net thing is a serious reach. I still don't know why people bring that up or why it matters. It's no different than a pitcher giving up a grand slam and going into the dugout and taking it out on all the water coolers. Never understood why that mattered.

Or why defensive players on this team don't get any negative attention for having their own little night out the week of the playoff game @ Lambeau. Hell, Sterling Shepard never even gets shit for it.. and he was right there with Beckham.
Beckham is a weird dude.  
Overseer : 12/6/2017 2:28 pm : link
Hyper-aware of any and all criticism against him and seemingly unable to brush it off. Insofar as his antics are comparable to Brady's (they're not, really), I suspect the latter is duly distracted from reactions to them by lots of lots of silver trophies.

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Totally separate from this: I'd be trying to find a sucker if I were the Giants. Unlikely, but if anyone really bites (Herschel-esque), it would be unwise not to listen. Especially coming off injury and soon due a gargantuan contract.

The Giants - for all their drafting flaws - have not had trouble finding receivers (Beckham, Shepard, Engram just in the past few years).
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arcarsenal : 12/6/2017 2:30 pm : link
Jerry Reese was the reason we've been so adept at finding WR's. He's gone now. Can't just assume that will continue.
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Matt M. : 12/6/2017 2:30 pm : link
In comment 13727915 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13727887 Matt M. said:


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In comment 13727703 arcarsenal said:


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He obviously looks up to Brady a good deal. I could think of about 500 worse players to idolize.

But I already know where this thread will predictably go...

He's not Brady, doesn't have the hardware, thus he shouldn't compare himself. Etc, etc. etc.

I don't think it's comparing himself as much as, in his mind, backing up his comments from the other day about the double standard. He's showing similar antics in Brady that Brady is praised for and he is criticized for.



I think he has great respect for Brady and aspires to be on that level (albeit, at a different position)

But yes, obviously the point was to depict that he's often vilified for many of the same actions that Brady is praised for. Therein lies the double standard.

I think you can acknowledge that while also believing that Odell still has a little growing up to do.

But - if people haven't noticed, the further ahead we get, the further back people have to reach to point out things he's done that bother them.

The dog pissing celebration was literally his worst offense this year. He didn't do a single other thing that hurt the team.

The kicking net thing is a serious reach. I still don't know why people bring that up or why it matters. It's no different than a pitcher giving up a grand slam and going into the dugout and taking it out on all the water coolers. Never understood why that mattered.

Or why defensive players on this team don't get any negative attention for having their own little night out the week of the playoff game @ Lambeau. Hell, Sterling Shepard never even gets shit for it.. and he was right there with Beckham.
I agree with you, with the exception being pitchers using their throwing hand (remember Kevin Brown) to hit a cooler, wall, etc. But, I didn't find the kicking net thing a big deal. I do find his celebrations problematic, because he has been flagged on more than a couple of occasions already.
The kicking the net thing was 100% tv-driven  
Bill L : 12/6/2017 2:32 pm : link
they made a super big deal out of it every time he left the field and into the next game when he kissed it. In reality, it's not even close to a thing. People slam helmets, chirp, do all kinds of things on the sideline when frustrated. Heck, what about the Redskin QB...shit, which one was it...who concussed himself headbutting a wall? Sideline stuff, is no problem for me. Drawing a penalty hurts. Especially when your kicker puts it out of bounds after the penalty and kickoff.
RE: Beckham is a weird dude.  
haper : 12/6/2017 2:34 pm : link
In comment 13727929 Overseer said:
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but if anyone really bites (Herschel-esque), it would be unwise not to listen. Especially coming off injury and soon due a gargantuan contract.

i would listen too, but i seriously doubt you'll get value for him bc of the injury
RE: This was posted by his mom yesterday  
gmenatlarge : 12/6/2017 2:35 pm : link
In comment 13727884 BigBlueHens said:
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He just reposted it, this video has been out for a day already. While he is spot on with the double standards, and it's a good comparison between himself and Brady, he won't get the respect because he doesn't have the rings like Brady. While Odell's antics hurt the team, and the penalties need to stop, the passion needs to continue.


When you compare yourself to Brady when you have won nothing you are asking for it!
He's right, there is a double standard  
Emil : 12/6/2017 2:35 pm : link
And it is primarily affected by winning. No one questions Brady's attitude because he is a 5 time Super Bowl champ and league MVP. If that was Cam Newton we'd never hear the end of it.

Also, take what Gronk did on Sunday. One of the dirtiest plays I'd ever soon. I'll bet you that Gronk will not be branded a bad guy for his behavior, as he is the leagues loveable giant goon. (For the record, I love watching Gronk play). It's just Gronk being Grong right?

Or Kelce in Kansas City who I think has been fined more than any other player over the past three seasons. By KC is usually pushing for a playoff spot, and they play in a smaller media market. He doesn't get the scrutiny OBJ does. I got no problem with OBJ calling out the double standard. Sure OBJ has painted a target on his back and I wish he hadn't, but he isn't the only one. The sports news world doesn't even get overly upset when Antonio Brown is face timing while his coach is speaking or when he shows you pleased he was that the opposing LB got knocked out of the game.

Plenty of evidence there is a double standard, not just the Brady sideline explosion. Notice Brady's answer "it's just football." That's OBJ's answer all the time and he never gets away with it.
RE: The kicking the net thing was 100% tv-driven  
gmenatlarge : 12/6/2017 2:38 pm : link
In comment 13727938 Bill L said:
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they made a super big deal out of it every time he left the field and into the next game when he kissed it. In reality, it's not even close to a thing. People slam helmets, chirp, do all kinds of things on the sideline when frustrated. Heck, what about the Redskin QB...shit, which one was it...who concussed himself headbutting a wall? Sideline stuff, is no problem for me. Drawing a penalty hurts. Especially when your kicker puts it out of bounds after the penalty and kickoff.


Yeah there is tons of video out there of players proposing to kicking nets. It just screams of "Hey, look at me!" and acts as a distraction to the rest of the team. The guy needs to grow up and don't even think of comparing yourself to Brady until you have won SOMETHING!
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arcarsenal : 12/6/2017 2:41 pm : link
Excessive celebration stuff - 100% - but look at the circuses that we see after every TD now. It's hard to get penalized for it since they've changed that rule.

I think people need to take a hard look at their reasoning behind their criticism. Do you really think the player is a negative to the football team or do you just really dislike the person?

I suspect most negative opinions of him are rooted heavily in the latter and those same people try to craft narratives based on the former to drive their agenda.

Be honest with yourself when you think about this player. He had one very forgettable day in 2015. He's taken a couple of other stupid penalties. That's about it. Stop with the kicking net. It's no different than a player flipping a cooler after a bad series. Happens almost every fucking week. Spare me.

Now, weigh that against the dynamic, game-breaking ability he's displayed on the football field.

It's an easy call for me.
I don't have an issue with it  
moespree : 12/6/2017 2:42 pm : link
But one thing I will say is he seems very sensitive. Every little thing seems to bother him if it's even in a small way negative. Now some people are like that so I'm not blaming him. Everyone is different. My only point is it's not going get any easier as a pro athlete if you let those things bother you. You have to shrug some of it off sometimes.
RE: He's right, there is a double standard  
arcarsenal : 12/6/2017 2:44 pm : link
In comment 13727949 Emil said:
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And it is primarily affected by winning. No one questions Brady's attitude because he is a 5 time Super Bowl champ and league MVP. If that was Cam Newton we'd never hear the end of it.

Also, take what Gronk did on Sunday. One of the dirtiest plays I'd ever soon. I'll bet you that Gronk will not be branded a bad guy for his behavior, as he is the leagues loveable giant goon. (For the record, I love watching Gronk play). It's just Gronk being Grong right?

Or Kelce in Kansas City who I think has been fined more than any other player over the past three seasons. By KC is usually pushing for a playoff spot, and they play in a smaller media market. He doesn't get the scrutiny OBJ does. I got no problem with OBJ calling out the double standard. Sure OBJ has painted a target on his back and I wish he hadn't, but he isn't the only one. The sports news world doesn't even get overly upset when Antonio Brown is face timing while his coach is speaking or when he shows you pleased he was that the opposing LB got knocked out of the game.

Plenty of evidence there is a double standard, not just the Brady sideline explosion. Notice Brady's answer "it's just football." That's OBJ's answer all the time and he never gets away with it.


I mentioned Kelce earlier. He's been fined several times and has taken about 5x more personal foul penalties than Beckham has. Yet, I never seem to read about how Travis Kelce is a team cancer or a guy KC should be looking to trade away or get rid of.

In fact, Andy Reid made him a team captain.

Maybe he just needs some sort of altercation with a kicking net to convince people.
RE: RE: The kicking the net thing was 100% tv-driven  
Bill L : 12/6/2017 2:45 pm : link
In comment 13727958 gmenatlarge said:
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they made a super big deal out of it every time he left the field and into the next game when he kissed it. In reality, it's not even close to a thing. People slam helmets, chirp, do all kinds of things on the sideline when frustrated. Heck, what about the Redskin QB...shit, which one was it...who concussed himself headbutting a wall? Sideline stuff, is no problem for me. Drawing a penalty hurts. Especially when your kicker puts it out of bounds after the penalty and kickoff.



Yeah there is tons of video out there of players proposing to kicking nets. It just screams of "Hey, look at me!" and acts as a distraction to the rest of the team. The guy needs to grow up and don't even think of comparing yourself to Brady until you have won SOMETHING!
I would almost bet money that when most of the team saw him do it, they were watching tv. I doubt anyone was unable to function on the field because they were distracted by OBJ
RE: He has more tweets than receiving yards  
ajr2456 : 12/6/2017 2:49 pm : link
In comment 13727840 EricJ said:
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... over the past 12 months. He is great at playing the "victim" and takes absolutely no ownership or responsibility for the things that he has done to contribute to his situation.


You have more posts here than receiving yards the past 12 months
RE: .  
gmenatlarge : 12/6/2017 2:49 pm : link
In comment 13727966 arcarsenal said:
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Excessive celebration stuff - 100% - but look at the circuses that we see after every TD now. It's hard to get penalized for it since they've changed that rule.

I think people need to take a hard look at their reasoning behind their criticism. Do you really think the player is a negative to the football team or do you just really dislike the person?

I suspect most negative opinions of him are rooted heavily in the latter and those same people try to craft narratives based on the former to drive their agenda.

Be honest with yourself when you think about this player. He had one very forgettable day in 2015. He's taken a couple of other stupid penalties. That's about it. Stop with the kicking net. It's no different than a player flipping a cooler after a bad series. Happens almost every fucking week. Spare me.

Now, weigh that against the dynamic, game-breaking ability he's displayed on the football field.

It's an easy call for me.


What are you talking about "craft a narrative" he provides this stupid shit himself, you don't have to craft anything. All he has to do is grow up a little bit and he won't be a target for DB's to get under his skin. And oh yeah, show up in a playoff game like Eli does!!!!
RE: I don't have an issue with it  
arcarsenal : 12/6/2017 2:50 pm : link
In comment 13727971 moespree said:
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But one thing I will say is he seems very sensitive. Every little thing seems to bother him if it's even in a small way negative. Now some people are like that so I'm not blaming him. Everyone is different. My only point is it's not going get any easier as a pro athlete if you let those things bother you. You have to shrug some of it off sometimes.


He does, and I think you're right - he is very sensitive.

I also think it's hard to level with someone in his position. It's easy to comment on how a guy should or shouldn't carry himself as a non-celebrity.

I have no idea how I would handle myself if thousands of people were providing commentary on my every breath. Some players handle it really well and know how to block out the noise, other guys struggle with it.

It's usually pretty easy for me - if a guy isn't getting into any legal trouble and isn't causing dissension amongst his teammates, what he does off the field really means nothing to me.

My hope is that as Odell gets older, he'll continue to grow as a person and block out all the outside bullshit and just go out there and play football.
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arcarsenal : 12/6/2017 2:52 pm : link
In comment 13727994 gmenatlarge said:
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In comment 13727966 arcarsenal said:


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Excessive celebration stuff - 100% - but look at the circuses that we see after every TD now. It's hard to get penalized for it since they've changed that rule.

I think people need to take a hard look at their reasoning behind their criticism. Do you really think the player is a negative to the football team or do you just really dislike the person?

I suspect most negative opinions of him are rooted heavily in the latter and those same people try to craft narratives based on the former to drive their agenda.

Be honest with yourself when you think about this player. He had one very forgettable day in 2015. He's taken a couple of other stupid penalties. That's about it. Stop with the kicking net. It's no different than a player flipping a cooler after a bad series. Happens almost every fucking week. Spare me.

Now, weigh that against the dynamic, game-breaking ability he's displayed on the football field.

It's an easy call for me.



What are you talking about "craft a narrative" he provides this stupid shit himself, you don't have to craft anything. All he has to do is grow up a little bit and he won't be a target for DB's to get under his skin. And oh yeah, show up in a playoff game like Eli does!!!!


How do you feel about AJ Green? Does he bother you as much as Beckham does?

Be honest.
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arcarsenal : 12/6/2017 2:53 pm : link
And perhaps you need to be reminded of what Eli Manning did in HIS first playoff game.

It wasn't pretty.
He's worried about a double standard  
HomerJones45 : 12/6/2017 2:56 pm : link
Has he apologized for destroying the team's Super Bowl chances with the boat trip yet?
RE: RE: He has more tweets than receiving yards  
EricJ : 12/6/2017 2:57 pm : link
In comment 13727993 ajr2456 said:
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... over the past 12 months. He is great at playing the "victim" and takes absolutely no ownership or responsibility for the things that he has done to contribute to his situation.



You have more posts here than receiving yards the past 12 months


That's right... but I am not being paid to catch the fucking ball.
RE: He's worried about a double standard  
arcarsenal : 12/6/2017 2:57 pm : link
In comment 13728010 HomerJones45 said:
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Has he apologized for destroying the team's Super Bowl chances with the boat trip yet?


Sure, it was the boat trip... the defense giving up nearly 40 points had nothing to do with it.

Good lord.
RE: He's worried about a double standard  
EricJ : 12/6/2017 2:58 pm : link
In comment 13728010 HomerJones45 said:
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Has he apologized for destroying the team's Super Bowl chances with the boat trip yet?


oh come on.. this again? We lost to the Pack because we were the inferior team and we were out coached... period.
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gmenatlarge : 12/6/2017 3:00 pm : link
In comment 13728003 arcarsenal said:
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And perhaps you need to be reminded of what Eli Manning did in HIS first playoff game.

It wasn't pretty.


I think OBJ left out the part where Brady peed like a dog in the end zone, proposed to a kicking net and tried to spear another player, pretty selective. Don't compare yourself to Brady you're just embarrassing yourself!
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arcarsenal : 12/6/2017 3:01 pm : link
Way to completely ignore both of my points.

Maybe if you add more exclamation points you'll be more convincing!!!!!!!
I hated the net proposal thing, thought that was stupid  
Andy in Halifax : 12/6/2017 3:05 pm : link
But otherwise I have been 100% supportive of OBJ. Think he gets treated unfairly by many fans. He seems like a good person, exceptionally hard working and a gifted athlete. We're lucky to have him.
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gmenatlarge : 12/6/2017 3:09 pm : link
In comment 13728022 arcarsenal said:
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Way to completely ignore both of my points.

Maybe if you add more exclamation points you'll be more convincing!!!!!!!


You make up your own reasons for other people's thinking I don't care or need to address that. As far as AJ Green, who gives a shit, that's just what-about-isms which could go on ad nauseum. If you want to keep making excuses for this clown go ahead, I'm not saying trade him, he just needs to grow up. And comparing yourself to Brady just doesn't fly at this point when you have won exactly nothing!
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arcarsenal : 12/6/2017 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13728033 gmenatlarge said:
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Way to completely ignore both of my points.

Maybe if you add more exclamation points you'll be more convincing!!!!!!!



You make up your own reasons for other people's thinking I don't care or need to address that. As far as AJ Green, who gives a shit, that's just what-about-isms which could go on ad nauseum. If you want to keep making excuses for this clown go ahead, I'm not saying trade him, he just needs to grow up. And comparing yourself to Brady just doesn't fly at this point when you have won exactly nothing!


Just funny to me that you're saying he should show up for playoff games like Eli did...

Eli was absolutely pitiful in his first playoff game. 10 completions, 113 yards, 0 TD's and 3 INT's.

But for fans like you, the book is closed on Beckham after one playoff game. Nevermind the fact that players like Rice. Brown, Green, and countless other high profile WR's had very non-descript playoff debuts.
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gmenatlarge : 12/6/2017 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13728037 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13728022 arcarsenal said:


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Way to completely ignore both of my points.

Maybe if you add more exclamation points you'll be more convincing!!!!!!!



You make up your own reasons for other people's thinking I don't care or need to address that. As far as AJ Green, who gives a shit, that's just what-about-isms which could go on ad nauseum. If you want to keep making excuses for this clown go ahead, I'm not saying trade him, he just needs to grow up. And comparing yourself to Brady just doesn't fly at this point when you have won exactly nothing!



Just funny to me that you're saying he should show up for playoff games like Eli did...

Eli was absolutely pitiful in his first playoff game. 10 completions, 113 yards, 0 TD's and 3 INT's.

But for fans like you, the book is closed on Beckham after one playoff game. Nevermind the fact that players like Rice. Brown, Green, and countless other high profile WR's had very non-descript playoff debuts.


Just to remind you Eli owns 2 SB MVPs, what does OBJ have most valuable dog-peeing or most moronic sideline show. This guy needs to clean up his act before he compares himself to Brady and fans like you defend it!
I love this. Complete double standard.  
larryflower37 : 12/6/2017 3:21 pm : link
Fuck em.
I support OBJ completely.
Some of the same people saying draft Mayfield are saying OBJ needs to settle down.
It's tough..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/6/2017 3:22 pm : link
to have conversations because you get posts with mistruths or half-truths in them:

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What's the double standard?
pjcas18 : 1:16 pm : link : reply
the player who is emotional on the field/sidelines and has never taken a personal foul or been suspended


Then, the suspension gets labeled as not an on-the-field one like deflated balls were used in the garage.

Look - Beckham acts like an immature idiot at times. It's OK to admit it, but acting as if Brady has never taken a personal foul or been suspended when he has:

- Been suspended for more games than Beckham AND
- Has 3 flags for unsportsmanlike conduct (not personal fouls, so I guess it is splitting hairs)

Not sure why that even needed to be posted.
We're comparing Beckham and Brady now?  
Go Terps : 12/6/2017 3:25 pm : link
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RE: It's tough..  
pjcas18 : 12/6/2017 3:39 pm : link
In comment 13728050 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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to have conversations because you get posts with mistruths or half-truths in them:



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What's the double standard?
pjcas18 : 1:16 pm : link : reply
the player who is emotional on the field/sidelines and has never taken a personal foul or been suspended



Then, the suspension gets labeled as not an on-the-field one like deflated balls were used in the garage.

Look - Beckham acts like an immature idiot at times. It's OK to admit it, but acting as if Brady has never taken a personal foul or been suspended when he has:

- Been suspended for more games than Beckham AND
- Has 3 flags for unsportsmanlike conduct (not personal fouls, so I guess it is splitting hairs)

Not sure why that even needed to be posted.


Obviously, I assumed, my mistake, people had the mental depth to apply that statement to Beckham's "claims" based on the Instagram video related to on-field emotional displays.

Brady was suspended for conduct detrimental to the league for failing to comply with the investigation - obviously I wasn't referring to that.

If Beckham's emotional displays were limited to the same ones Brady exhibited in the instagram do you really believe people would have criticized Beckham for them?

You know the answer to that.

it's no.

And even if they were similar, but Beckham had the accolades and success Brady has, do you think he'd be criticized, but Brady wouldn't be?

Again, you know the answer to that.

It's no.

So the double standard exists b/c the two have different levels of success on-field and Brady's on-field emotion has not hurt his team.

That was the point, but please focus on the not so relevant points that are unrelated.
RE: I hated the net proposal thing, thought that was stupid  
BigBlue4You09 : 12/6/2017 3:45 pm : link
In comment 13728028 Andy in Halifax said:
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But otherwise I have been 100% supportive of OBJ. Think he gets treated unfairly by many fans. He seems like a good person, exceptionally hard working and a gifted athlete. We're lucky to have him.


This +1. So glad they aren't going to be stupid enough to trade him. Hopefully get an extension before next year.
Is it really..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/6/2017 3:47 pm : link
just too much to ask to keep the ancillary fluff out of it?

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That was the point, but please focus on the not so relevant points that are unrelated.


I'm focusing on untrue and unnecessary points that detract from the point.

If you said what you said above that's perfect. Not sure why additional details - that aren't even true were provided.
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