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Jay on the Island : 12/6/2017 2:07 pm
The Rangers have signed LHP Mike Minor to a 3 year $28 million dollar contract. They are reportedly considering giving him a chance to start. He was excellent for KC out of the pen last season with a 2.55 ERA and 88K's in 77.2 IP.

Indians sign RP Dan Otero to a 2 year $2.5 million dollar contract.

Phillies sign former Braves prospect C Abrahan Gutierrez.

Angels sign SS prospect Luis Soto along with Kevin Maitan.

Cards sign SP Miles Mikolas to a 2 year $15.5 million dollar deal. Mikolas pitched in Japan the past 3 years and the Cards obviously are high on him.


It is utterly insane how quiet  
bhill410 : 12/6/2017 2:11 pm : link
This off season has been
RE: It is utterly insane how quiet  
speedywheels : 12/6/2017 2:12 pm : link
In comment 13727869 bhill410 said:
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This off season has been


I think teams have been waiting to see how the Ohtani and Stanton situations play out first...
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Matt in SGS : 12/6/2017 2:15 pm : link
In comment 13727875 speedywheels said:
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In comment 13727869 bhill410 said:


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This off season has been



I think teams have been waiting to see how the Ohtani and Stanton situations play out first...


That, and the real action is next year with that free agent class. I expect it to be quiet this year, particularly because the Yankees will lay in the weeds waiting to go after Machado.
RE: It is utterly insane how quiet  
Jay on the Island : 12/6/2017 2:17 pm : link
In comment 13727869 bhill410 said:
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This off season has been

It is unbelievable. It is so different than the NFL free agency when nearly every big name FA signs immediately.
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Jay on the Island : 12/6/2017 2:20 pm : link
In comment 13727889 Matt in SGS said:
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That, and the real action is next year with that free agent class. I expect it to be quiet this year, particularly because the Yankees will lay in the weeds waiting to go after Machado.

There will be several teams going after Machado. I know Atlanta will have money to burn and I expect them to be a frontrunner for Machado depending on Austin Riley.
I wonder if the gap between player expectations  
MetsAreBack : 12/6/2017 2:23 pm : link
and what teams are willing to pay is wider with impending tax reform -- which looks like it will disallow corporate entertainment expense deductions.

Play that through and I imagine teams over the next 2 years will have to reduce pricing on premium seating. Combined with cord cutting, if I'm an owner, i'm not exactly forecasting revenue growth in my budgeting.
anyone have a list of all the MLB free agents?  
GMAN4LIFE : 12/6/2017 2:44 pm : link
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RE: anyone have a list of all the MLB free agents?  
Jay on the Island : 12/6/2017 2:48 pm : link
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Minor  
DanMetroMan : 12/6/2017 2:53 pm : link
got fair market value but that's a pretty substantial risk for Texas. Love the Petit deal for Oakland though.
I'm trying not to dwell on the possibility of a  
bceagle05 : 12/6/2017 2:53 pm : link
Machado-Didi-Torres-Bird-Sanchez infield, but I have a feeling it will happen.
I  
DanMetroMan : 12/6/2017 2:56 pm : link
think Machado lands with the Yankees and Harper joins Trout with the Angels.
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DanMetroMan : 12/6/2017 3:05 pm : link
The Giants have confirmed they have an agreement with the Marlins... pending Stanton's approval
in other MLB news  
CardinalX : 12/6/2017 4:40 pm : link
apparently Rafael Palmiero is seriously interested in making an attempt at a comeback. he's 53 and hasn't played in a dozen years. I can't begin to imagine the odds against. but have to believe.... oh, I don't know what to believe. my first thought though was, what magical enhanced performance drug has he found?
Doesn’t every baseball offseason  
ZGiants98 : 12/6/2017 7:46 pm : link
Not really kick off until the winter meetings?? 🤔
Can always count on ZGiants  
BigBlueShock : 12/6/2017 7:54 pm : link
To bring the holier than thou, condescending arrogance to a thread.
And I would counter that hot stove usually starts at GM meetings  
bhill410 : 12/6/2017 8:04 pm : link
At least rumors start and usually one decent signing and trade prior to winter meetings. Specifically every year I remember being annoyed around thanksgiving because there are no updates for those three days, now there are just no updates
The Royals signed another former Braves IFA prospect  
Jay on the Island : 12/7/2017 10:52 am : link
OF Juan Carlos Negret. Surprisingly 2B Yunior Severino, P Juan Contreras, and SS/3B Yenci Pena haven't signed yet.
Angels and Mariners both made trades yesterday  
bceagle05 : 12/7/2017 10:53 am : link
to free up more Ohtani money - it'll be hilarious if he goes to San Diego.
Mets  
DanMetroMan : 12/7/2017 3:44 pm : link
interested in garbage Mitch Moreland for 1b.
Orioles taking calls on Machado.  
bceagle05 : 12/7/2017 3:47 pm : link
I'd imagine it's teams calling Baltimore and not the other way around, at least until the trade deadline.
Law  
DanMetroMan : 12/7/2017 4:02 pm : link
thinks the cost on Machado would be 2 A-level (meaning quality not level of play) prospects given the fact he'd be adding 5-7 wins to a contender.
Manny is a 1 year rental  
arniefez : 12/7/2017 4:07 pm : link
O's should sign him not trade him.
Heyman  
DanMetroMan : 12/7/2017 4:09 pm : link
said they have received calls but love him. It looks like a non-story right now.
RE: Law  
spike : 12/7/2017 4:24 pm : link
In comment 13729361 DanMetroMan said:
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thinks the cost on Machado would be 2 A-level (meaning quality not level of play) prospects given the fact he'd be adding 5-7 wins to a contender.


too much.
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DanMetroMan : 12/7/2017 4:57 pm : link
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Gotta  
DanMetroMan : 12/7/2017 5:02 pm : link
figure DiPoto is sending Gordon somewhere
Nope  
DanMetroMan : 12/7/2017 5:04 pm : link
Gordon to play CF
they are saying he's playing CF  
Eric on Li : 12/7/2017 5:05 pm : link
but usually that's BS. Very curious to see the return.
Orioles would demand twice as much from the Yanks as anyone else  
Greg from LI : 12/7/2017 5:17 pm : link
So I don't forsee Machado in the Bronx unless he gets to FA.
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DanMetroMan : 12/7/2017 5:31 pm : link
Last 4 seasons-

Moreland 33/42 fWAR at 1b... guys worse -Ryan Howard, Chris Johnson, James Loney, Adam LaRoche, Pedro Alvarez, CJ Cron, Mark Reynolds, Chris Carter and Mark Teixeira (yeah mostly retired...)

wRC+ 39/42... worse Chris Johnson, Ryan Howard, James Loney

wOBA 36/42... worse Chris Johnson, Ryan Howard, Loney, Brandon Moss, Pujols, LaRoche

Really truly beyond perplexed how someone could not "hate it". He's awful.
RE: they are saying he's playing CF  
RasputinPrime : 12/7/2017 6:06 pm : link
In comment 13729439 Eric on Li said:
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but usually that's BS. Very curious to see the return.


Yanks should swoop in and offer the 3mm international money for a nice package of young talent. It looks like the M's are all in for Ohtani.
Might as well bring Duda  
Metnut : 12/7/2017 6:54 pm : link
back for 1yr rather than dumpster dive for Moreland.
Mish: Stanton will not approved a trade to Giants or Cardinals  
BigBlue4You09 : 12/7/2017 11:57 pm : link
Now told Stanton will approve :

Dodgers
Yankees
Cubs
Astros
Yanks not involved with the Braves players?  
Jim in Hoboken : 12/8/2017 12:24 am : link
Anyone knows how they plan to spend that money?
I'd love to see the reaction around baseball  
bceagle05 : 12/8/2017 12:27 am : link
if Jeter winds up trading Stanton to the Yankees. I think he's headed for the Dodgers though.
Imagine having Stanton, Judge, and Sanchez  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/8/2017 12:29 am : link
in the middle of the lineup for the next decade or so?

I'd die.

Teams can't even stop Judge and Sanchez (as we saw this year). Adding Stanton wouldn't even be fair.
Yeah, I think Stanton will end up in LA  
illmatic : 12/8/2017 12:42 am : link
if he really won't go to the Giants. But that's okay. I'd rather not see the Yankees trade for him if it means they wouldn't add Machado or Harper next year. And his contract might be horrendous in just a few years depending on how he ages.
98% certain Yanks have  
section125 : 12/8/2017 7:23 am : link
very little interest in Stanton because of the $30 mill/year he is being paid. They are getting under the luxury tax, period.
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Jay on the Island : 12/8/2017 5:41 pm : link
In comment 13729469 DanMetroMan said:
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Last 4 seasons-

Moreland 33/42 fWAR at 1b... guys worse -Ryan Howard, Chris Johnson, James Loney, Adam LaRoche, Pedro Alvarez, CJ Cron, Mark Reynolds, Chris Carter and Mark Teixeira (yeah mostly retired...)

wRC+ 39/42... worse Chris Johnson, Ryan Howard, James Loney

wOBA 36/42... worse Chris Johnson, Ryan Howard, Loney, Brandon Moss, Pujols, LaRoche

Really truly beyond perplexed how someone could not "hate it". He's awful.

Matt Adams would be a very good safety net for the Mets at 1B.
Baltimore likely keeps Machado  
xman : 12/8/2017 7:35 pm : link
but say he leaves. What do you guys think he will command? 200 million? I say forget it. You can get the lefty hitting 3rd baseman on KC for half that
RE: Baltimore likely keeps Machado  
Dave in PA : 12/8/2017 9:55 pm : link
In comment 13730888 xman said:
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but say he leaves. What do you guys think he will command? 200 million? I say forget it. You can get the lefty hitting 3rd baseman on KC for half that
Machado turns 26 in July. You have to figure he will command at least 10 years $300M, and that may well end up being on the low end of both years and average annual salary. Machado is an absolute stud. Perennial gold glove and silver slugger type player. I doubt his injury history ends up dampening the frenzy that will be his free agency.
That sounds like a Stanton type contract  
xman : 12/8/2017 10:32 pm : link
too much and way too long. Then there is the annoying opt out on the players side after 5 years. No risk at all for the player . Owners shoulder all the downside. The trend to shorter contracts will even the field a bit.

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