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Josh Rosen to enter Draft

superspynyg : 12/7/2017 8:07 am
Will forgo last year as expected. Reported by Walter Football.

There’s one
Here’s link  
superspynyg : 12/7/2017 8:08 am : link
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Yeah  
jeff57 : 12/7/2017 8:09 am : link
If nothing else, he wanted no party of Chip Kelly's offense.
Wonder if he'll play inthe bowl game  
jeff57 : 12/7/2017 8:10 am : link
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Excellent  
JonC : 12/7/2017 8:11 am : link
... paging Sam Darnold ...
Rosen  
Sammo85 : 12/7/2017 8:13 am : link
Is my choice. Hopefully he’s there for us in the draft.
I have a feeling neither will be there when we pick  
yankeeslover : 12/7/2017 8:15 am : link
just a hunch that we win a couple more games and will be picking top 5 or 6.. I still think we beat the Boys this week and one of either Washington or Arizona... I dont see 2-14... If we want one of Rosen or Darnold we will have to trade up... just my hunch.
RE: I have a feeling neither will be there when we pick  
Strip-Sack : 12/7/2017 8:17 am : link
In comment 13728587 yankeeslover said:
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just a hunch that we win a couple more games and will be picking top 5 or 6.. I still think we beat the Boys this week and one of either Washington or Arizona... I dont see 2-14... If we want one of Rosen or Darnold we will have to trade up... just my hunch.


My thoughts exactly...
He's denying it...  
Milton : 12/7/2017 8:18 am : link
But it's only a matter of time until it's official.

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According to WalterFootball.com, “multiple sources tell WalterFootball.com that Rosen will skip his senior year and enter the 2018 NFL Draft.”

The only problem is that these sources were not named, cited or linked to. This got back to Rosen who took to Twitter and refuted the claim.

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Josh Rosen

@josh3rosen
Replying to @LeadingNCAA
No I haven't....
3:37 PM - Dec 6, 2017
RE: I have a feeling neither will be there when we pick  
exiled : 12/7/2017 8:31 am : link
I'd be shocked if we win another game.
RE: RE: I have a feeling neither will be there when we pick  
exiled : 12/7/2017 8:32 am : link
Shocked in a good way
who's the tallest of the QBs?  
GMAN4LIFE : 12/7/2017 8:54 am : link
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RE: who's the tallest of the QBs?  
jeff57 : 12/7/2017 8:58 am : link
In comment 13728627 GMAN4LIFE said:
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Allen's an inch taller than Rosen and Darnold.
RE: I have a feeling neither will be there when we pick  
Sammo85 : 12/7/2017 8:58 am : link
In comment 13728587 yankeeslover said:
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just a hunch that we win a couple more games and will be picking top 5 or 6.. I still think we beat the Boys this week and one of either Washington or Arizona... I dont see 2-14... If we want one of Rosen or Darnold we will have to trade up... just my hunch.


People are being irrational thinking there will be an Eli bounce. I don’t
see it.

Defense is injured. Offense is injured and can’t move the ball still.
I think one of the 2 will be there.  
cjd2404 : 12/7/2017 8:59 am : link
Let's assume we move to #6 in the draft order.

1. Browns - Maybe they trade out of this spot (my gut tells me the Skins move up) or take a QB. Either way a QB goes
2. 49ers - Have Garapollo (sp)
3. Colts - This is my wildcard, but I think they stay with Luck
4. Broncos - I remember reading they were really high on Chad Kelley (IR), and I think they take another need
5. Bears - Drafted a QB last year
6. Giants - Have our option
RE: I think one of the 2 will be there.  
yankeeslover : 12/7/2017 9:09 am : link
In comment 13728637 cjd2404 said:
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Let's assume we move to #6 in the draft order.

1. Browns - Maybe they trade out of this spot (my gut tells me the Skins move up) or take a QB. Either way a QB goes
2. 49ers - Have Garapollo (sp)
3. Colts - This is my wildcard, but I think they stay with Luck
4. Broncos - I remember reading they were really high on Chad Kelley (IR), and I think they take another need
5. Bears - Drafted a QB last year
6. Giants - Have our option


Niners will trade out of that position to a qb needy team...maybe Us.
RE: RE: I have a feeling neither will be there when we pick  
AcidTest : 12/7/2017 9:10 am : link
In comment 13728589 Strip-Sack said:
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In comment 13728587 yankeeslover said:


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just a hunch that we win a couple more games and will be picking top 5 or 6.. I still think we beat the Boys this week and one of either Washington or Arizona... I dont see 2-14... If we want one of Rosen or Darnold we will have to trade up... just my hunch.



My thoughts exactly...


+2.
If the giants are selecting 6th  
bigbluehoya : 12/7/2017 9:16 am : link
Then they’ve really fucked up. That would be terrible.
RE: If the giants are selecting 6th  
bw in dc : 12/7/2017 9:28 am : link
In comment 13728659 bigbluehoya said:
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Then they’ve really fucked up. That would be terrible.


Well said.

Just lose, baby!
Some of you guys are really true believers.  
Mike from SI : 12/7/2017 9:29 am : link
Our team sucks.
There might be a new energy  
joeinpa : 12/7/2017 9:30 am : link
In the building Sunday and the Dallas offense minus Elliot had been pedestrian up to last week.

So I can see a Giants win this Sunday.

However, it s the same offensive line, the same immobile quarterback, the same set of wide receivers and the same guys calling the plays.

Also Dallas gets Shawn Lee back.

Enthusiasm and emotion only last so far into a game. Eventually you have to block and score.

Do think Giants D can play well against Dallas
My guess is the Giants end up at 4th  
AnnapolisMike : 12/7/2017 9:32 am : link
They will win one or two...but most of the teams in the running will win a game or two as well. At 4-5 they can certainly trade up if the guy they WANT is available.

If need be . . the Giants can ride Eli Manning for another year or two. Until they get a handle on the OL....it is not going to matter much who is under center anyway.
The Arizona game is winnable for the Giants  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/7/2017 9:34 am : link
unfortunately.
Don’t count Allen out.  
DonQuixote : 12/7/2017 9:39 am : link
I think his stock will rise during the off season.
RE: RE: I think one of the 2 will be there.  
DonQuixote : 12/7/2017 9:40 am : link
In comment 13728652 yankeeslover said:
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In comment 13728637 cjd2404 said:


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Let's assume we move to #6 in the draft order.

1. Browns - Maybe they trade out of this spot (my gut tells me the Skins move up) or take a QB. Either way a QB goes
2. 49ers - Have Garapollo (sp)
3. Colts - This is my wildcard, but I think they stay with Luck
4. Broncos - I remember reading they were really high on Chad Kelley (IR), and I think they take another need
5. Bears - Drafted a QB last year
6. Giants - Have our option



Niners will trade out of that position to a qb needy team...maybe Us.


If the miners think they have their QB, they will draft Barkley. It lines up perfectly for them.
RE: I have a feeling neither will be there when we pick  
Les in TO : 12/7/2017 9:44 am : link
In comment 13728587 yankeeslover said:
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just a hunch that we win a couple more games and will be picking top 5 or 6.. I still think we beat the Boys this week and one of either Washington or Arizona... I dont see 2-14... If we want one of Rosen or Darnold we will have to trade up... just my hunch.
i think our ceiling would be winning one game the rest of the way.
Josh Allen  
GuzzaBlue : 12/7/2017 9:56 am : link
Has anyone watched him a lot this year. I've only seen highlights. When he throws on the run or outside the pocket, he looks the part of a pro QB. The talent around him sucks, but how does he look in terms of managing the games, running the offense, ect.
It’s no shock that Rosen is entering draft  
Earl the goat : 12/7/2017 9:57 am : link
He is not Chip Kelly’s type of QB
RE: Josh Allen  
DonQuixote : 12/7/2017 10:11 am : link
In comment 13728713 GuzzaBlue said:
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Has anyone watched him a lot this year. I've only seen highlights. When he throws on the run or outside the pocket, he looks the part of a pro QB. The talent around him sucks, but how does he look in terms of managing the games, running the offense, ect.
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I have been talking about Allen. He is a physical specimen. His senior year was no great shakes but this reminds me of when Marino fell in the draft. Anyway, when the workouts start you will see this guy rise up on the draft charts.
I like Rosen  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 12/7/2017 10:17 am : link
I like Mayfield. I want no part of Darnold. I think he will be a spectacular bust.
Hopefully we lose competitively  
bceagle05 : 12/7/2017 10:19 am : link
to Dallas and Philly with Eli (though I wouldn't mind knocking Dallas out or costing Philly a bye) and start Webb in the final two games against weaker opponents. Also, go San Fran!
We need to IR the entire Giants roster  
spike : 12/7/2017 10:33 am : link
Losin' for Rosen

Or

Tank for Sam
Allen is the biggest boom or bust QB in the draft  
Jay on the Island : 12/7/2017 10:38 am : link
He could become the best QB in the draft or he could be Jake Locker 2.0. The accuracy issues scare me and I think that he is just too risky to take in the top 5. If the Giants traded down to the early teens and picked up a future 1st round pick in the deal then I would be fine if they took a chance on him. Allen like Darnold would benefit greatly by sitting behind Eli for a year.
RE: RE: RE: I think one of the 2 will be there.  
Gatorade Dunk : 12/7/2017 10:41 am : link
In comment 13728687 DonQuixote said:
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In comment 13728637 cjd2404 said:


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Let's assume we move to #6 in the draft order.

1. Browns - Maybe they trade out of this spot (my gut tells me the Skins move up) or take a QB. Either way a QB goes
2. 49ers - Have Garapollo (sp)
3. Colts - This is my wildcard, but I think they stay with Luck
4. Broncos - I remember reading they were really high on Chad Kelley (IR), and I think they take another need
5. Bears - Drafted a QB last year
6. Giants - Have our option



Niners will trade out of that position to a qb needy team...maybe Us.



If the miners think they have their QB, they will draft Barkley. It lines up perfectly for them.

If they get an offer from within the top 5-7 picks that also gives them back a high 2nd (which they gave up for JG), I think they'd probably be compelled to take that, which would essentially amount to having acquired JG for a slight trade down in the 1st.
RE: The Arizona game is winnable for the Giants  
Carson53 : 12/7/2017 11:00 am : link
In comment 13728675 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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unfortunately.
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Not out there it isn't. I still see 3-13, and a top 3 pick.
That works for me. I can't recall the last time they beat
the Cardinals out there....yes, they won a SB out there...
but that's not the Cardinals.
Giants will lose each game  
BigBlueinChicago : 12/7/2017 11:06 am : link
until Week 17.

That will be the game where they drop their draft position while the Bears, Colts and Broncos figure out a way to keep on losing and move up.
RE: RE: The Arizona game is winnable for the Giants  
Jints in Carolina : 12/7/2017 11:28 am : link
In comment 13728873 Carson53 said:
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In comment 13728675 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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unfortunately.

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Not out there it isn't. I still see 3-13, and a top 3 pick.
That works for me. I can't recall the last time they beat
the Cardinals out there....yes, they won a SB out there...
but that's not the Cardinals.


In 2008 they beat both super bowl teams, Arizona and Pittsburgh on the road. In 2011 they beat Arizona again on the road.
In fact  
Jints in Carolina : 12/7/2017 11:33 am : link
The Giants are 6-3 in their last 9 trips out to Arizona.
Give me Lamar Jackson  
larryflower37 : 12/7/2017 4:30 pm : link
Imo Darnold stays in school
Top 4 will be in no order.
Rosen
Jackson
Allen
Mayfield.
RE: Allen is the biggest boom or bust QB in the draft  
DonQuixote : 12/7/2017 4:30 pm : link
In comment 13728830 Jay on the Island said:
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He could become the best QB in the draft or he could be Jake Locker 2.0. The accuracy issues scare me and I think that he is just too risky to take in the top 5. If the Giants traded down to the early teens and picked up a future 1st round pick in the deal then I would be fine if they took a chance on him. Allen like Darnold would benefit greatly by sitting behind Eli for a year.


I see the concerns, but I am betting he will go top 5.
I think accuracy is the most important trait in a qb  
Ira : 12/7/2017 4:34 pm : link
and Rosen is very accurate.
Giants may win 1 more game by luck or averaging out. Not only are they  
plato : 12/7/2017 6:36 pm : link
Injured on both sides of the ball, their coaching staff has gone down. Yes that's right. Spags is a failure as a HC, and is an average D.C. Now he has Dave Merrit which was predictable as his acting D.C. Merrit is a failed D.C. And is barely an adequate position coach.
On offense Sullivan remains the same, so there is no improvement on offense.
Eli can't play behind this horrid offensive line and no running game.

So all of you relax, well have a number three or higher draft pick. But that's no guarantee of getting a successful pick.so just watch the season peter out with a whimper and not a roar.
RE: Giants may win 1 more game by luck or averaging out. Not only are they  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/7/2017 6:43 pm : link
In comment 13729530 plato said:
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Now he has Dave Merrit which was predictable as his acting D.C. Merrit is a failed D.C. And is barely an adequate position coach.


Just so everyone's aware that you don't know what you're talking about, Dave Merritt has never been a defensive coordinator at any level.
Was just going to say that Hammer  
NikkiMac : 12/7/2017 7:05 pm : link
This team won’t win another game Have a feeling Rosen will be the first player selected I think Darnold is a bust waiting to happen probably going to have to make a deal with Cleveland if you want Rosen or trade back for Mayfield.
RE: Josh Allen  
bw in dc : 12/7/2017 7:18 pm : link
In comment 13728713 GuzzaBlue said:
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Has anyone watched him a lot this year. I've only seen highlights. When he throws on the run or outside the pocket, he looks the part of a pro QB. The talent around him sucks, but how does he look in terms of managing the games, running the offense, ect.


I’ve seen him. His team is below average talent wise.

The best thrower of a football in this draft. Guy has a Marino type arm. Big and athletic and he can move. The player wth the biggest upside in this draft...but perhaps the most downside...? Not sure.

He’ll kill it at the Combine - in all the drills. If he interviews well he may go right to the top 5,
RE: RE: Giants may win 1 more game by luck or averaging out. Not only are they  
Jints in Carolina : 12/7/2017 8:27 pm : link
In comment 13729537 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 13729530 plato said:


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Now he has Dave Merrit which was predictable as his acting D.C. Merrit is a failed D.C. And is barely an adequate position coach.



Just so everyone's aware that you don't know what you're talking about, Dave Merritt has never been a defensive coordinator at any level.


LMAO unreal isn't it
Rosen  
Marty866b : 12/7/2017 9:57 pm : link
Got knocked out or didn't play in 11 of his last 19 games. That is a very scary stat when you're picking very high. He can surely spin it when he plays but he has injury concerns besides his lack of winning. He does have the physical skills to be special.
i expect a big effort this week  
CGiants07 : 12/7/2017 10:09 pm : link
and a max of 2 wins out of 4
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