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ij_reilly : 12/7/2017 11:27 am
Over $18,000 now.

This is insane.

I'm holding 1.5 Bitcoin, I guess I keep holding.
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at least when people bought tulips  
GentleGiant : 12/7/2017 11:31 am : link
they could plant them in the ground. What will people do with Bitcoin when it crashes. I'm pretty sure they'll be impossible to sell on the way down.
Yeah I was considering buy some last night  
Bchurch : 12/7/2017 11:32 am : link
but with my luck it will tank soon there after.
If I had any I'd just sell  
WideRight : 12/7/2017 11:38 am : link
But that's just me.

Why demand is so out of whack with supply will be a case study in B-school for the next generation.

I think the run on Bitcoin will be triggered by a hack, or something. Get the thought out there that this crytocurrency could be stolen or worse, faked out by its own block chain software, and its value will go poof.
Are there capital gains you have to pay, once you sell?  
Anando : 12/7/2017 11:40 am : link
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If you don't know why it's happening.....  
njm : 12/7/2017 11:44 am : link
and it's been skyrocketing perhaps this is a time to lighten your exposure.

I have no idea why it's happening so I'm not touching it.
Your supposed to declare  
ij_reilly : 12/7/2017 11:44 am : link
as if you traded a commodity, I believe.

I've never sold Bitcoin, only bought.

I'm going to sell enough to get my original investment out  
ij_reilly : 12/7/2017 11:45 am : link
But my exchange, Coinbase, seems to have crashed.

It's too unstable now.

I have plenty of wiggle room so I can wait until it settles a bit.
the Facebook twins  
Rocky369 : 12/7/2017 11:49 am : link
were trying to take it public or whatever the proper term is. While it's hitting a roadblock it appears that it is nearing that stage and probably a cause for the surge. They are billionaires because of it. However, Steam is no longer accepting it as payment because of its volatility which I could see it as taking a hit.
It's  
AcidTest : 12/7/2017 11:49 am : link
crazy.
If you have 1 or 2, don't sell, not worth it for 18k  
Jim in Forest Hills : 12/7/2017 11:54 am : link
thats not life changing money. Some people specultae it could go to 100k, 500k, 1M by 2020. Hold onto it.
RE: If you have 1 or 2, don't sell, not worth it for 18k  
GentleGiant : 12/7/2017 11:57 am : link
In comment 13728989 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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thats not life changing money. Some people specultae it could go to 100k, 500k, 1M by 2020. Hold onto it.


pigs get fed but hogs get slaughtered
RE: If you have 1 or 2, don't sell, not worth it for 18k  
njm : 12/7/2017 11:58 am : link
In comment 13728989 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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thats not life changing money. Some people specultae it could go to 100k, 500k, 1M by 2020. Hold onto it.


Please tell me why it might go to $1 mil? It's a unit of exchange not backed by any government. It produces no value added product and provides no service other than as an exchange.
hold til  
spike : 12/7/2017 12:01 pm : link
$50000
I want to get my original investment out  
ij_reilly : 12/7/2017 12:07 pm : link
Greed kills.

Get my base dollars out and then I can play with the gravy.
I don't trust it  
Breeze_94 : 12/7/2017 12:07 pm : link
It's far too late to buy into. To me, it has all the signs of a pyramid scheme. That being said, like the previous poster said, if you have 1 or 2 bitcoin that you got before the price skyrocketed, than you might as well ride this thing out and see just how much money you can get out of it.
sell it at 20k... this shit is gonna drop real fast  
GMAN4LIFE : 12/7/2017 12:08 pm : link
someone is gonna make it crash soon
When everyone and their mother is running in,  
Keith : 12/7/2017 12:12 pm : link
you run out.
RE: the Facebook twins  
ThreePoints : 12/7/2017 12:13 pm : link
In comment 13728979 Rocky369 said:
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were trying to take it public or whatever the proper term is. While it's hitting a roadblock it appears that it is nearing that stage and probably a cause for the surge. They are billionaires because of it. However, Steam is no longer accepting it as payment because of its volatility which I could see it as taking a hit.


What? How can you possibly take a digital currency public?

The crash, I think, is inevitable. Who even accepts bitcoins right now?
ETF for Bitcoin  
Rocky369 : 12/7/2017 12:18 pm : link
whatever that is
Fortune - ( New Window )
Who accepts Bitcoin?  
ij_reilly : 12/7/2017 12:23 pm : link
Microsoft and Tesla, to name two.

Acceptance is expanding.
if you dont own bitcoin  
cjac : 12/7/2017 12:24 pm : link
and want to invest in it without directly buying it, look into ETFs that own some

ARKW is a good one. top holdings are bitcoin, amazon, twitter, tesla, netflix, google....

you can take advantage of the runup with less risk, and its liquid so you can get out. if bitcoin goes sour it'll be impossible to sell.
And now it's back down to $15,000.  
njm : 12/7/2017 12:29 pm : link
This isn't investing.
RE: I want to get my original investment out  
mrvax : 12/7/2017 12:32 pm : link
In comment 13729007 ij_reilly said:
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Greed kills.

Get my base dollars out and then I can play with the gravy.


I'd recommend this ^^^.
Bitcoin is not an investment  
WideRight : 12/7/2017 12:35 pm : link
It should not ever be ignored. Cryptocurrency how no inherent value that one can assess as greater than or less than its stated value.

It is speculation, pure and simple. You think its going up? Fine. Buy it, but don't pretend you know anything about it that can point to its future value.
All Im saying is 18K, 20K thats a nice chunk, it is  
Jim in Forest Hills : 12/7/2017 12:35 pm : link
But give yourself a shot at earning a lot more. Especially if you own just 1 bitcoin. It could crash, sure but 20k can't change your life or lifestyle. I'm going to hold just to see where it goes. Do your own research!
The thing about Bitcoin...  
Dan in the Springs : 12/7/2017 12:37 pm : link
is that people "think" it gives them anonymity, when in actuality it's the opposite.

Once your identity is revealed (which is not too difficult to do and there are companies actively revealing identities for their clients), literally every transaction made with the currency is exposed for anyone on the internet to see through Bitcoin's public ledger.

I'm a math guy, not a Bitcoin expert, so my interest has been in how the math works with the system. I think people don't realize that once their identity is revealed every "hidden" transaction becomes exposed worldwide.

I think the risk here is that someone soon writes an article exposing this privacy risk and the currency gets dumped.
RE: All Im saying is 18K, 20K thats a nice chunk, it is  
Jim in Fairfax : 12/7/2017 12:39 pm : link
In comment 13729061 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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But give yourself a shot at earning a lot more. Especially if you own just 1 bitcoin. It could crash, sure but 20k can't change your life or lifestyle. I'm going to hold just to see where it goes. Do your own research!

What research? There’s no research you can do to justify owning it. Ride the wave of the craze if you like, but it’s just outright gambling. If you would lay down $20K on the Giants, then Bitcoin is for you.
RE: Who accepts Bitcoin?  
Jim in Fairfax : 12/7/2017 12:42 pm : link
In comment 13729041 ij_reilly said:
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Microsoft and Tesla, to name two.

Acceptance is expanding.

A lot of merchants that accepted it have dropped.

More importantly: there is absolutely zero reason any consumer would want to use Bitcoin to make legitimate purchases.
RE: RE: Who accepts Bitcoin?  
Mr. Nickels : 12/7/2017 12:43 pm : link
In comment 13729076 Jim in Fairfax said:
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Microsoft and Tesla, to name two.

Acceptance is expanding.


A lot of merchants that accepted it have dropped.

More importantly: there is absolutely zero reason any consumer would want to use Bitcoin to make legitimate purchases.



It buys you more than the dollar
RE: RE: RE: Who accepts Bitcoin?  
Jim in Fairfax : 12/7/2017 12:47 pm : link
In comment 13729081 Mr. Nickels said:
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It buys you more than the dollar


WTF does that mean? I can buy anything with dollars. There are few things I can buy with Bitcoin without first converting them to dollars.
RE: RE: RE: Who accepts Bitcoin?  
njm : 12/7/2017 12:54 pm : link
In comment 13729081 Mr. Nickels said:
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It buys you more than the dollar


And that changes by the minute.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Who accepts Bitcoin?  
Mr. Nickels : 12/7/2017 12:59 pm : link
In comment 13729090 Jim in Fairfax said:
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In comment 13729081 Mr. Nickels said:


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It buys you more than the dollar



WTF does that mean? I can buy anything with dollars. There are few things I can buy with Bitcoin without first converting them to dollars.


And if you invested properly you would have many many more dollars
It is supposed to hit 50k  
mattlawson : 12/7/2017 1:04 pm : link
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RE: The thing about Bitcoin...  
DennyInDenville : 12/7/2017 1:07 pm : link
In comment 13729067 Dan in the Springs said:
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is that people "think" it gives them anonymity, when in actuality it's the opposite.

Once your identity is revealed (which is not too difficult to do and there are companies actively revealing identities for their clients), literally every transaction made with the currency is exposed for anyone on the internet to see through Bitcoin's public ledger.

I'm a math guy, not a Bitcoin expert, so my interest has been in how the math works with the system. I think people don't realize that once their identity is revealed every "hidden" transaction becomes exposed worldwide.

I think the risk here is that someone soon writes an article exposing this privacy risk and the currency gets dumped.

Nomero is the new bitcoin
RE: It is supposed to hit 50k  
Jim in Fairfax : 12/7/2017 1:07 pm : link
In comment 13729115 mattlawson said:
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Says who? So was Enron.
Invested in litecoin last night  
DennyInDenville : 12/7/2017 1:08 pm : link
Looking to buy Xrp as well.

Bitcoin... man I owned 700 bitcoins back in 2012 and used them all to buy drugs from china.

I'd be really wealthy if I kept them.. but knowing me I would have lost the coins via broken hardware or forgotten passwords
RE: RE: It is supposed to hit 50k  
DennyInDenville : 12/7/2017 1:09 pm : link
In comment 13729120 Jim in Fairfax said:
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Says who? So was Enron.

McCaffe says if it doesn't hit 1 million by 2020 he will eat his own dick on tv
Btw Expedia.com accepts bitcoin  
DennyInDenville : 12/7/2017 1:12 pm : link
Also you can cash your bitcoin out at anytime for USD $ wired into your bank account instantly.. whenever you want
Thru the Coinbase app*  
DennyInDenville : 12/7/2017 1:12 pm : link
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I need to read up on bitcoins  
Banks : 12/7/2017 1:14 pm : link
I have a pile of money just sitting in the bank and people keep telling me to buy bitcoins when I ask how should I invest. From the comments here, it seems a bit risky and I'm relatively conservative when it comes to money.
If you bought 5k worth of bitcoin last week  
DennyInDenville : 12/7/2017 1:14 pm : link
You'd have doubled your money this week

5 k profit
RE: I need to read up on bitcoins  
DennyInDenville : 12/7/2017 1:15 pm : link
In comment 13729128 Banks said:
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I have a pile of money just sitting in the bank and people keep telling me to buy bitcoins when I ask how should I invest. From the comments here, it seems a bit risky and I'm relatively conservative when it comes to money.

That ship sailed

However litecoin and xrp are still very cheap

However if you have extra money..

Consider buying 2-3 bitcoins and sitting on them, quick.

Download the coinbase app today to get started
You can literally buy $50 of bitcoin and invest with that  
DennyInDenville : 12/7/2017 1:16 pm : link
There's literally ZERO excuse for anybody to complain and not get on the gravy train.
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Danny Kanell : 12/7/2017 1:17 pm : link
I bought $100 worth of Litecoin last night for the hell of it on the Coinbase app. I'll probably double it then see what happens. I could piss that away at the bar in one night. What the hell.
RE: RE: All Im saying is 18K, 20K thats a nice chunk, it is  
Jim in Forest Hills : 12/7/2017 1:18 pm : link
In comment 13729073 Jim in Fairfax said:
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In comment 13729061 Jim in Forest Hills said:


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But give yourself a shot at earning a lot more. Especially if you own just 1 bitcoin. It could crash, sure but 20k can't change your life or lifestyle. I'm going to hold just to see where it goes. Do your own research!


What research? There’s no research you can do to justify owning it. Ride the wave of the craze if you like, but it’s just outright gambling. If you would lay down $20K on the Giants, then Bitcoin is for you.


Not telling anyone to plunk down $20K now, my investment was much less. I got it much earlier and I'm willing to just see where it goes.
RE: If you bought 5k worth of bitcoin last week  
njm : 12/7/2017 1:20 pm : link
In comment 13729129 DennyInDenville said:
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You'd have doubled your money this week

5 k profit


And if you bought at 10AM today you'd be down between 25-30%.
I have 20 Litecoin I bought last week  
ij_reilly : 12/7/2017 1:21 pm : link
I'm going to hold that.

But it's time to sell a chunk of my Bitcoin.

We're back to $17,400.
RE: RE: RE: It is supposed to hit 50k  
njm : 12/7/2017 1:21 pm : link
In comment 13729122 DennyInDenville said:
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In comment 13729115 mattlawson said:


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Says who? So was Enron.


McCaffe says if it doesn't hit 1 million by 2020 he will eat his own dick on tv


Well all I can say to the man is "Chow down!"
Man, what has people so angry about it?  
Jim in Forest Hills : 12/7/2017 1:27 pm : link
Is there vitriol because you feel its a scam? Why are people upset? Is it being promoted too much?
RE: Man, what has people so angry about it?  
DennyInDenville : 12/7/2017 1:29 pm : link
In comment 13729153 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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Is there vitriol because you feel its a scam? Why are people upset? Is it being promoted too much?

Angry they didn't buy in when it was .30 cents- $1.00 I guess

I'm angry too lol, but still happy for those who gained wealth off it.
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