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NGT: The Browns new GM is John Dorsey formerly the Chiefs GM

Defenderdawg : 12/7/2017 9:15 pm
And so it begins...in season

Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter)
12/7/17, 9:09 PM
Browns reached agreement with former Chiefs GM John Dorsey to become Cleveland’s new GM, sources tell @mortreport and me.
No Rooney Rule for front office executives?  
Diver_Down : 12/7/2017 9:17 pm : link
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It was expected that the Browns would move fast.  
Diver_Down : 12/7/2017 9:20 pm : link
With the Giants on the search, the Browns didn't want to lose getting their guy. Of course, there was speculation by some on BBI (giants2000) that the Browns were interested in Reese.
Dorsey to this real amateur is a great hire.  
plato : 12/7/2017 9:21 pm : link
The Giants should do as well.
...  
Mdgiantsfan : 12/7/2017 9:26 pm : link
Reese asleep at the wheel again...oh wait :)
giants2000 the new slade...  
JCin332 : 12/7/2017 9:27 pm : link
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RE: ...  
superspynyg : 12/7/2017 9:28 pm : link
In comment 13729618 Mdgiantsfan said:
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Reese asleep at the wheel again...oh wait :)


I laughed so hard
As to the Rooney rule  
Defenderdawg : 12/7/2017 9:30 pm : link
Chris Mortensen (@mortreport)
12/7/17, 9:22 PM
Browns did not just begin process today. Dorsey was among a handful of candidates not currently affiliated with a team who was free to talk wit clubs, including the @Browns.

Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter)
12/7/17, 9:13 PM
Browns already have interveiwed other GM candidates and have satisfied the Rooney Rule, per sources. And now, John Dorsey is their new GM.

Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero)
12/7/17, 9:20 PM
As @RapSheet said earlier today, #Browns were honing in on John Dorsey (and vetting other options) for weeks. Knew their plan before firing Sashi Brown. Everybody said they need someone who knows players. Well, Dorsey knows players — and inherits a lot of resources to get them.
Sure.  
McNally's_Nuts : 12/7/2017 9:33 pm : link
I remember when they hired Phil Savage and everyone was so happy.

The Browns should be contracted
Classy organization to be interviewing  
Diver_Down : 12/7/2017 9:33 pm : link
candidates while Sashi was still in the position. At least Dorsey's chair was kept warm.
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yankees78 : 12/7/2017 9:35 pm : link
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@AdamSchefter

John Wooten, chairman of Fritz Pollard Alliance, is concerned about Browns’ hiring process. “I’m deeply bothered by it,” Wooten said. “I’ll be talking to the league about it because it bothers me. It doesn’t seem right. Why wouldn’t you interview one of the recommended people?”
If they were narrowing in on Dorsey, they must  
Diver_Down : 12/7/2017 9:35 pm : link
have been scared shitless when Reese was let go. Everyone with a half a brain knew Ben was on his way out, but Jerry must have caught the Browns by surprise.
5-6 weeks...  
Defenderdawg : 12/7/2017 9:38 pm : link
Mary Kay Cabot (@MaryKayCabot)
12/7/17, 9:36 PM
4-year contract for #Browns new GM John Dorsey, have been talking to him for 5-6 weeks. Will have final say over the roster. Satisfied the Rooney Rule
Dorsey is someone  
blueblood : 12/7/2017 9:46 pm : link
I had hoped the Giants would get the chance to talk to
I know it’s the Browns, but no excuses if he fails given:  
Defenderdawg : 12/7/2017 9:50 pm : link
Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer)
12/7/17, 9:44 PM
John Dorsey will start in Cleveland with this: 5 picks in the first two rounds, and 12 in the first six rounds of the 2018 draft, plus over $100 million in cap space.
So for at least a month, the Browns  
Diver_Down : 12/7/2017 9:50 pm : link
were negotiating with Sashi's replacement. Stay classy, Cleveland.
Good hire  
WillVAB : 12/7/2017 9:57 pm : link
The guy knows how to find talent and has a bunch of picks.
As someone mentioned earlier:  
Defenderdawg : 12/7/2017 9:57 pm : link
"If John Dorsey is going to be the guy, you get the jump on the New York Giants, which is something that I heard today from a league source was 'hey, they're doing this now to make a run at Dorsey because the Giants are interested too,'" Bleacher Report's Matt Miller said on the Bull and Fox Show.
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Can the Mets get Depodesta back  
Rflairr : 12/7/2017 10:04 pm : link
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One thing about the Giants you can always count on  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/7/2017 10:06 pm : link
is that they are very deliberate with stuff like this. Dorsey is probably pretty good. That a team would jump out and do this now isn't surprising, but it's also not surprising that the Giants don't appear to be in any kind of urgency to handle this. And I'm not sure how I feel about that.
the fix is in for  
sundayatone : 12/7/2017 10:09 pm : link
gettelman,the search is fake news.
RE: Sure.  
81_Great_Dane : 12/7/2017 10:21 pm : link
In comment 13729626 McNally's_Nuts said:
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I remember when they hired Phil Savage and everyone was so happy.

The Browns should be contracted
The Browns now are like the 70s Giants. Though the last two seasons in Cleveland have been bad even by 70s-Giants standards.
RV on cue  
Defenderdawg : 12/7/2017 10:47 pm : link
Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
12/7/17, 10:39 PM
Would’ve been a strong candidate for the Giants GM job. Former Panthers GM Dave Gettleman is now the one to watch for the Giants.
Fuckin Reese asleep at the wheel again!!  
ron mexico : 12/7/2017 10:49 pm : link
Oh wait....
RE: Fuckin Reese asleep at the wheel again!!  
Koldegaard : 12/7/2017 10:52 pm : link
In comment 13729684 ron mexico said:
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Oh wait....


??
Kind of interesting ...  
FStubbs : 12/7/2017 11:08 pm : link
... that Dorsey looks at the Cleveland situation and the Giants and decides Cleveland is better.
wow that was fast  
GiantTuff1 : 12/7/2017 11:23 pm : link
and I don’t want Gettleman.

If Gettleman is an accessory hire to a new blood GM then I am more than fine w that, but I don’t think he should be the guy.
Mortensen  
Defenderdawg : 12/7/2017 11:36 pm : link
“According to league sources, Haslam considered this a timely opportunity to hire a new football boss, similar to a move the Packers once exercised when they hired Ron Wolf as general manager in late November 1991. Wolf considered it an advantage to get an early read on the Packers' roster and the coaching staff before he turned around a franchise that had grown irrelevant for more than 20 years. Wolf hired Dorsey to join his personnel staff and has been a mentor.”
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RE: So for at least a month, the Browns  
Gatorade Dunk : 12/8/2017 5:19 am : link
In comment 13729642 Diver_Down said:
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were negotiating with Sashi's replacement. Stay classy, Cleveland.

It's entirely possible that the Browns had already told Sashi that they'd be parting ways at the end of the season and just accelerated their timing because of the Giants. It's not necessarily a nefarious plot unless it did all happen behind Sashi's back. Have there been any indications either way yet?
RE: the fix is in for  
The_Boss : 12/8/2017 6:37 am : link
In comment 13729658 sundayatone said:
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gettelman,the search is fake news.


Sadly I agree.
RE: Kind of interesting ...  
MBavaro : 12/8/2017 6:53 am : link
In comment 13729693 FStubbs said:
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... that Dorsey looks at the Cleveland situation and the Giants and decides Cleveland is better.


"John Dorsey will start in Cleveland with this: 5 picks in the first two rounds, and 12 in the first six rounds of the 2018 draft, plus over $100 million in cap space."

And a franchise with a strong history and nowhere to go but up.

This would have any decent potential GM drooling.....
I now you have to go back  
MBavaro : 12/8/2017 6:54 am : link
4 or 5 decades, but its there.
RE: the fix is in for  
Gatorade Dunk : 12/8/2017 7:43 am : link
In comment 13729658 sundayatone said:
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gettelman,the search is fake news.

Can the next fix after that be your shift key?
The NFL was a better place  
markky : 12/8/2017 7:47 am : link
when the Browns were competitive. It sucks having really bad teams in the league.
one down.  
Victor in CT : 12/8/2017 8:25 am : link
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RE: RE: So for at least a month, the Browns  
Diver_Down : 12/8/2017 8:46 am : link
In comment 13729746 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 13729642 Diver_Down said:


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were negotiating with Sashi's replacement. Stay classy, Cleveland.


It's entirely possible that the Browns had already told Sashi that they'd be parting ways at the end of the season and just accelerated their timing because of the Giants. It's not necessarily a nefarious plot unless it did all happen behind Sashi's back. Have there been any indications either way yet?


Watching NFLN this morning, and they had a report that Sashi was out scouting these past few weeks while the behind the scene search was going on. Perhaps, Sashi was aware of being let go at the end of the season, but I have to assume that he had no idea that he would be let go on Dec. 7th. The timing of having Sashi in his seat doing his job while the Rooney Rule is being satisfied and then negotiating with Sashi's replacement for 5-6 weeks just doesn't seem right. That timeline puts the Browns starting the process back before Halloween. If Sashi was indeed aware, then it is odd for him to continue to do the scouting instead of assigning the task to another.
Damn  
Jay on the Island : 12/8/2017 9:06 am : link
I was hoping the Giants would hire Dorsey. Great hire by the Browns.
RE: RE: RE: So for at least a month, the Browns  
Gatorade Dunk : 12/8/2017 10:10 am : link
In comment 13729873 Diver_Down said:
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In comment 13729642 Diver_Down said:


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were negotiating with Sashi's replacement. Stay classy, Cleveland.


It's entirely possible that the Browns had already told Sashi that they'd be parting ways at the end of the season and just accelerated their timing because of the Giants. It's not necessarily a nefarious plot unless it did all happen behind Sashi's back. Have there been any indications either way yet?



Watching NFLN this morning, and they had a report that Sashi was out scouting these past few weeks while the behind the scene search was going on. Perhaps, Sashi was aware of being let go at the end of the season, but I have to assume that he had no idea that he would be let go on Dec. 7th. The timing of having Sashi in his seat doing his job while the Rooney Rule is being satisfied and then negotiating with Sashi's replacement for 5-6 weeks just doesn't seem right. That timeline puts the Browns starting the process back before Halloween. If Sashi was indeed aware, then it is odd for him to continue to do the scouting instead of assigning the task to another.

That's a fair point - I wasn't aware of that. It's not uncommon for an executive in any industry to be given a termination date well into the future, but they're usually not asked to continue anything that would affect the company beyond their remaining service time, so I stand corrected.
RE: RV on cue  
Jay on the Island : 12/8/2017 10:24 am : link
In comment 13729683 Defenderdawg said:
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Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
12/7/17, 10:39 PM
Would’ve been a strong candidate for the Giants GM job. Former Panthers GM Dave Gettleman is now the one to watch for the Giants.

Great Mara and co keeping the status quo. First will be Gettleman then John Fox as HC.
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Diver_Down : 12/8/2017 11:14 am : link
In comment 13730043 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 13729746 Gatorade Dunk said:


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were negotiating with Sashi's replacement. Stay classy, Cleveland.


It's entirely possible that the Browns had already told Sashi that they'd be parting ways at the end of the season and just accelerated their timing because of the Giants. It's not necessarily a nefarious plot unless it did all happen behind Sashi's back. Have there been any indications either way yet?



Watching NFLN this morning, and they had a report that Sashi was out scouting these past few weeks while the behind the scene search was going on. Perhaps, Sashi was aware of being let go at the end of the season, but I have to assume that he had no idea that he would be let go on Dec. 7th. The timing of having Sashi in his seat doing his job while the Rooney Rule is being satisfied and then negotiating with Sashi's replacement for 5-6 weeks just doesn't seem right. That timeline puts the Browns starting the process back before Halloween. If Sashi was indeed aware, then it is odd for him to continue to do the scouting instead of assigning the task to another.


That's a fair point - I wasn't aware of that. It's not uncommon for an executive in any industry to be given a termination date well into the future, but they're usually not asked to continue anything that would affect the company beyond their remaining service time, so I stand corrected.


I'm not saying the report is definitive. Just what I heard listening while drinking coffee. Some organizations deserve the benefit of the doubt in how they run their business. The Browns? Nope. Haslam himself is still under investigation for fraud with regards to the Pilot Flying J.
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