“It’s beyond injuries, though. The thing I don’t understand, and I know that he has drops, but Evan Engram, who I see as uncoverable, I see him lined up as a blocker. I don’t understand that. And that’s what I mean: If you can change some of the thoughts about how they do things, this is a team that can contend. This team doesn’t have 2-10 personnel. Their players are a lot better than that...”
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I agree, what is Evan Engram doing Greco wrestling 300 pound linemen, it's insane ! The guy is a quintessential possession RECEIVER.
Fix the offensive line, Giants; picking at the top of the draft, this is a Golden Opportunity.
Is one heck a lot more creative and 100% less stubborn than MAC was.That cost him his job (and he pulled Jerry Reese down with him).
Mac is a very good coach, when all the parts are in place, but he is lost if things change because he's the definition of tunnel vision.
Dude, we never had a TE like Engram with Coughlin. WTF does Coughlin have to do with this?
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Didn’t Coughlin do stuff like that with the TE?
Dude, we never had a TE like Engram with Coughlin. WTF does Coughlin have to do with this?
Well, we had Shockey who also was a mismatch but for some reason Coughlin's offense had him run 8 yards, turn around and stop.
Engram is not just a TE, he is a mismatch, and that is how offensive minds should look at him as. Create plays specifically to dictate the match up you want. There was his first TD of the year where he lined up as a FB in the backfield and acted like he was gonna lead block for the RB, Engram then slipped past the LB's and split the safeties for a TD. That is a perfect exampl of why you Should ask him to block at times because it sets up plays like this in the game plan.
With Engram, Shep and OBJ our next HC and OC should be drooling over the opportunity to scheme with this group.
You didn't want him predominately split out. It was situational.
also, if you remember, Shockey had to block certain times because the OL was showing cracks.
at least for now...
I hope the next coach knows how to get the most out of what he has...and not force their schemes on players that just can't execute it. Using Engram to block should be a felony offense.
I hope the next coach knows how to get the most out of what he has...and not force their schemes on players that just can't execute it. Using Engram to block should be a felony offense.
That's one thing I give Brian Billick credit for. He was known as an "offensive wizard", then showed up to a team that had Trent Dilfer as a quarterback and an all time defense. So he played time of possession with Jamal Lewis and Priest Holmes and won games 10-7. He called it the "dark side of defensive football."
Well, we had Shockey who also was a mismatch but for some reason Coughlin's offense had him run 8 yards, turn around and stop.
Shockey is nothing like Engram and Coughlin had him less than 2 years.
Let us hope the next Giant coach is more flexable, like Parcells.
Didn’t Coughlin do stuff like that with the TE?
Dude, we never had a TE like Engram with Coughlin. WTF does Coughlin have to do with this? [/quote]
at least for now...
Ding ding ding. No more calls, we have a winner.
He was the Conrad Dobler of his generation. I've NEVER seen any player who had his helmet pulled off his head more than him; he "gave no quarter and expected none".
And man could he run, at 265-270, he would leave CBs & safeties in his dust. I saw him at Candlestick shoot past al the 49ers. then come back for an under thrown 65 yard pass, turn back around and score a TD.
Put another 35-40 pounds on Engram, all you get is a muscle-bound or fat blob. Don't do it, Giants.
The George Young/Dan Reeves combo did the same thing
Last week you called Kelvin Benjamin a Panther, now you post this??
And man could he run, at 265-270, he would leave CBs & safeties in his dust. I saw him at Candlestick shoot past al the 49ers. then come back for an under thrown 65 yard pass, turn back around and score a TD.
Put another 35-40 pounds on Engram, all you get is a muscle-bound or fat blob. Don't do it, Giants.
I'll give you a pass hoping you realize Dobler is an OL, but Shockey was 6'5" 250 pounds. Engram is 6'3" 240.
And Shockey's longest reception as a Giant was 59 yards. He had two TD's against the Niners. One was a 32 yard TD and the other was a 2 yard TD.
Fucking ponderous.
Travis Beckum
Martellus Bennett
Brandon Myers
Larry Donnell
Will Tye
Tell us again which one of these had his career ruined by being inflexibly turned into a blocker?
Belichick expects Gronkowski to block. Witten blocks. The best recieving TEs in the sport do it too. Hell, half the complaint people had about Engram when he was drafted was that he wouldn't be any use if he couldn't block.
It's not misuse of personnel to expect your players to be able to do it all and teach your players to handle their positions. Why are we making standard practices in football out to be incompetence?
OJ Howard has 21 catches on the season.
1. Surgical precision is not a requisite here. When I marvel at how fast Shockey was, for a big man, I don't think a bit of hype hurts anybody (especially about a memory of a game that happened 10 years ago)
2. I DO recall that Dobler was a lineman; I'm simply suggesting that Shockey played with that kind of intensity.
3. I am aware that Benjamin was traded to the Bills, recently - but is there any real harm with referring to him with the Panthers (where he's played until recently)
We're not going to affect anybody's ability to earn a living with our banter here (or mental state). At least, I sincerely hope not.
"Surgical precision"?? WTF? It's simple. Just say you thought shockey was fast for a big guy. That's cool.
Saying you saw him run past several Niners to catch a 65 yard pass at a weight 20 pounds heavier than he was really doesn't further the discussion or even add anything except some really fucked up memory recollection. Just for shit and giggles, I saw the TD pass he caught against the niners. It was at the end of a half on a play where he was uncovered for 32 yards.
It's really easy - if you don't know specifics - don't post them. Eliminates any fancy horseshit about "surgical precision". Just an actual account would be a whole lot better.