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M.S. : 12/8/2017 8:24 am
...has Darnold going #1 to Cleveland and Rosen going #2 to the Giants.



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RE: RE: RE: Mock draft  
barens : 12/8/2017 11:51 am : link
In comment 13730222 Milton said:
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In comment 13730201 Rjanyg said:


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Colin, we need OL help and while I too feel the pass rush is in need of improvement, any guy they draft will rotate at best and help on 3rd down but a really good OG/C could start from day 1 with all the question marks we have.


You can get a really good OG/C at the top of round 2. Chris Snee was taken at the top of round 2 the same year Eli was taken at the top of round 1. We could see the same combo position-wise in 2018.

Also, Cam Robinson was taken early round 2, so was Cordy Glenn. And Greg Robinson and Jason Smith were taken with the 2nd pick in round 1. And while everyone thinks Quenton Nelson is the second coming of Zach Martin, Martin wasn't nearly as highly regarded coming out of college as were Jonathan Cooper and Chance Warmack. Nelson is just as likely to bust as Rosen is.


Absolutely, that's where it's going to get interesting to me, is in round two if one of the top 4 running backs are available, would they grab one, or make the offensive line a priority.
RE: Mock draft  
mrvax : 12/8/2017 11:57 am : link
In comment 13730239 barens said:
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Absolutely, that's where it's going to get interesting to me, is in round two if one of the top 4 running backs are available, would they grab one, or make the offensive line a priority.


I'd think going after the Oline guy would be better. IMO, putting a shiny new RB behind our crap Oline would be a travesty to the RB and the QB.

A good Oline can make an average back better (and help the QB too).
There's no bigger Eli fan than myself...  
BillKo : 12/8/2017 12:29 pm : link
but when you draft 1 or 2 and there's a QB you believe can be a franchise guy, you take him. In particular when your current guy will be 37.

Putting it off could set you back years........

And so could blowing the pick by not selecting the right QB.

This is a big draft for the Jints.
RE: Throw this into the mix  
BillKo : 12/8/2017 12:37 pm : link
In comment 13729860 njm said:
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What if Andrew Luck is finished? Would Indy want to trade up to #2?


Insteresting....especially if you gave a higher grade to the kid from Wyoming, or Mayfield.
RE: Giants projected  
BillKo : 12/8/2017 12:39 pm : link
In comment 13730105 ajr2456 said:
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to get a 4th round comp pick, btw


Refresh my memory, who did we lose???
I am assuming Hankins...?  
JCin332 : 12/8/2017 12:52 pm : link
..
Rosen...  
Milton : 12/8/2017 12:56 pm : link
RE: I am assuming Hankins...?  
BillKo : 12/8/2017 12:58 pm : link
In comment 13730340 JCin332 said:
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Ahh, right. And he's supposedly have a very good statistical year I believe.
At  
AcidTest : 12/8/2017 1:21 pm : link
this point, I'm somewhat hoping that our first round pick isn't a QB, just to watch half this board meltdown.

We don't know if Darnold is coming out.

We don't know where the Giants are picking.

We haven't had any post season evaluations, interviews, etc.
RE: I say you build up  
Jimmy Googs : 12/8/2017 2:04 pm : link
In comment 13730161 That’s Gold, Jerry said:
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the foundation (OL), stay with Eli and you have a team ready to contend.

Eli is NOT the problem!


He sure isn't the solution. Did you see the Geno put up the same amount of points with the same offense?
RE: At  
mrvax : 12/8/2017 2:37 pm : link
In comment 13730396 AcidTest said:
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this point, I'm somewhat hoping that our first round pick isn't a QB, just to watch half this board meltdown.


No biggie. Just means the new staff feels that Webb is better than the 2018 QB's. They had better be correct though.
RE: Yeah I think too many  
Carson53 : 12/8/2017 3:15 pm : link
In comment 13729948 JonC said:
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are banking on Eli in the near term. It's the perfect time to get out in front of the QB situation.
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Of course it is, they would be foolish not too.
BTW, the Giants don't trade down, I think once
in the last decade folks.
RE: RE: I say you build up  
Carson53 : 12/8/2017 3:20 pm : link
In comment 13730462 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 13730161 That’s Gold, Jerry said:


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the foundation (OL), stay with Eli and you have a team ready to contend.

Eli is NOT the problem!




He sure isn't the solution. Did you see the Geno put up the same amount of points with the same offense?


Eli is NOT the solution either! In his last two starts,
the offense scored a grand total of zero TD's.
The one TD was on a pick six by Jenkins.
Hell, even Geno had two TD's in his start.
I'd love to get Rosen  
Banks : 12/8/2017 3:29 pm : link
It's been a shit season, but at least draft time and the time leading up to it will be exciting.
Rosen is the most likely guy who can be a Day 1 Starter  
Jimmy Googs : 12/8/2017 3:32 pm : link
per many views.

Unless I am missing something, we will need a Day 1 Starter...
Rosen's good and all  
bluepepper : 12/8/2017 4:29 pm : link
but Jeez, can we for once get a QB who moves around back there?
7 qbs takenn in the first round?  
BlackburnBalledOut : 12/8/2017 5:50 pm : link
this is a joke
giants need to fix their line  
BlackburnBalledOut : 12/8/2017 5:52 pm : link
im not sold on either darnold or rosen, draft the tackle from texas or one of the ND OL.
Buyer beware  
Marty866b : 12/8/2017 6:02 pm : link
Rosen didn't play or finish in 11 of his last 19 games. Has had injury concerns and wears a knee brace.
RE: At  
BigBlueShock : 12/8/2017 6:10 pm : link
In comment 13730396 AcidTest said:
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this point, I'm somewhat hoping that our first round pick isn't a QB, just to watch half this board meltdown.

We don't know if Darnold is coming out.

We don't know where the Giants are picking.

We haven't had any post season evaluations, interviews, etc.

So we shouldn’t talk about it? Should we just shut the site down and come back in March?
RE: giants need to fix their line  
BigBlueShock : 12/8/2017 6:11 pm : link
In comment 13730812 BlackburnBalledOut said:
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im not sold on either darnold or rosen, draft the tackle from texas or one of the ND OL.

None of those guys are top 3 picks. That’s how you end up with Ereck Flowers.
RE: 7 qbs takenn in the first round?  
Jimmy Googs : 12/8/2017 6:16 pm : link
In comment 13730809 BlackburnBalledOut said:
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this is a joke


That's fabulous for us. We get one of the better ones since we ultimately be picking #2 (i assume) and teams behind us dilute the QB position allowing us to improve the other position player we get in round 2...

RE: Buyer beware  
barens : 12/8/2017 6:22 pm : link
In comment 13730815 Marty866b said:
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Rosen didn't play or finish in 11 of his last 19 games. Has had injury concerns and wears a knee brace.


Really my only concern with Rosen, and I guess that is a big one. But I don't have any problems with his play on the field.
Well, Rosen, Darnold and Mayfield are definitely going to be  
Ira : 12/8/2017 7:04 pm : link
top nfl qbs. If the new gm doesn't screw things up. we'll have one of them. I'll be happy with any of those three.
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