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NFT: Comic Book fans: Disney nearing Fox deal

LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/8/2017 1:29 pm
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Sources have confirmed that Disney and Fox Studios have closed the acquisition deal. This means X-Men's Wolverine, Deadpool and Marvel Studio's Avengers will come under one roof.


I wonder how this will effect Deadpool going forward. And I hope Hugh Jackman signs up for one more Wolverine.
Deadpool, X-Men, F4 - ( New Window )
I suspect Deadpool will stay  
81_Great_Dane : 12/8/2017 1:35 pm : link
at "20th Century Fox" because Disney will want the R-rated, not-suitable-for-children stuff on a separate label. It'll be a distinction without much of a difference, but it'll help Disney's branding.
Jackman had as good a send-off as that series will get  
UConn4523 : 12/8/2017 1:39 pm : link
I'd leave it alone. Obviously money talks but I can't really see him being interested in it for any other reason.
I believe this would also give Disney  
Kevin in Annapolis : 12/8/2017 1:41 pm : link
the original Episode IV Star Wars film cut (right now they only own the one Lucas updated in the 90's).
RE: Jackman had as good a send-off as that series will get  
jnoble : 12/8/2017 1:41 pm : link
In comment 13730427 UConn4523 said:
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I'd leave it alone. Obviously money talks but I can't really see him being interested in it for any other reason.


Unfortunatly Disney loves squeezing every last penny out of something and beating that horse dead
the only way this works  
Gordo : 12/8/2017 1:42 pm : link
is if they reboot xmen, I loved Logan and how he ended but if they some how brought that world into MCU I only see it as one big mess.

hell, the Xmen universe was already a big mess, when they started doing the prequels and retconing a bunch of plot lines.

reboot the whole thing and do it right, I can see this as a perfect thing to set up after the whole Infinity War settles down
more important  
giantfan2000 : 12/8/2017 1:43 pm : link
Fantastic Four will finally be in MCU

that'd be great  
Banks : 12/8/2017 1:53 pm : link
the characters in the avengers were never A listers or at least haven't been for about 40 years prior to Ironman, besides the Hulk. It'd be great to work in the more interesting characters under Fox. As stated above, I think they could bring back the Fantastic Four and actually do it right. It's sad that the best FF movie is the Incredibles
RE: RE: Jackman had as good a send-off as that series will get  
UConn4523 : 12/8/2017 1:53 pm : link
In comment 13730430 jnoble said:
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In comment 13730427 UConn4523 said:


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I'd leave it alone. Obviously money talks but I can't really see him being interested in it for any other reason.



Unfortunatly Disney loves squeezing every last penny out of something and beating that horse dead
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I just meant for Jackman. Other than money it would be pointless for him to come back. As a fan of his acting I’d like it if he loved on to other stuff.
RE: the only way this works  
Jay on the Island : 12/8/2017 2:07 pm : link
In comment 13730434 Gordo said:
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is if they reboot xmen, I loved Logan and how he ended but if they some how brought that world into MCU I only see it as one big mess.

hell, the Xmen universe was already a big mess, when they started doing the prequels and retconing a bunch of plot lines.

reboot the whole thing and do it right, I can see this as a perfect thing to set up after the whole Infinity War settles down

Agreed I am concerned that they will force the X-Men into the MCU I would prefer it if they kept the X-Men out of the MCU and in their own universe. I know it won't happen though. If they are going to add the XMen to the MCU after the Inifinity War makes the most sense. Perhaps they could swing it where organisms from the Thanos' alien army are responsible for the mutations in humans creating mutants.

The whole plot line of humans being afraid of mutants seems dumb to me now after the arrival and acceptance of Cap, Hulk, Captain Marvel, Spiderman, Black Panther, etc.
Hackman is most likely done as the Wolverine  
Jay on the Island : 12/8/2017 2:08 pm : link
A few years ago he said that his dream was to fight the Hulk in a movie.
RE: more important  
Jay on the Island : 12/8/2017 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13730435 giantfan2000 said:
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Fantastic Four will finally be in MCU

It's too bad this didn't happen a couple of years ago. It would have been interesting watching the brilliant Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, and Reed Richards working together.
I read somewhere that since Disney has (or will have)  
Bill L : 12/8/2017 2:19 pm : link
its own streaming service, they are going to strip all all the Marvel series off of Netflix. So, we will be unable to watch the current(?) and next episodes of daredevil, jessica, etc.

True or not true?
Getting X-Men & Fantastic Four is huge for Disney  
Ben in Tampa : 12/8/2017 3:30 pm : link
as it's expected most of the heavyweights of Marvel - RDJ, Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, etc - will be departing the franchise after Avengers 4.

Marvel Phase 4 has Spiderman 2 and Guardians 3, but not much else. I think Black Panther and Captain Marvel are expected to be big franchises, but launching X-Men & Fantastic Four would immediately boost the whole thing up.

They have to do a total reboot of X-Men though.
RE: Getting X-Men & Fantastic Four is huge for Disney  
Jay on the Island : 12/8/2017 3:54 pm : link
In comment 13730619 Ben in Tampa said:
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as it's expected most of the heavyweights of Marvel - RDJ, Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, etc - will be departing the franchise after Avengers 4.

Marvel Phase 4 has Spiderman 2 and Guardians 3, but not much else. I think Black Panther and Captain Marvel are expected to be big franchises, but launching X-Men & Fantastic Four would immediately boost the whole thing up.

They have to do a total reboot of X-Men though.

Marvel will be introducing Captain Marvel who will be a main star moving forward with Spiderman being the main star. Doctor Strange was just introduced and the AntMan and Wasp sequel is coming. Adam Warlock will be introduced as well. I expect many of the older heroes to die battling Thanos with Black Widow, Hawkeye, Thor, Cap, and at least one of the Guardians most likely Drax.
RE: Getting X-Men & Fantastic Four is huge for Disney  
GMAN4LIFE : 12/8/2017 4:46 pm : link
In comment 13730619 Ben in Tampa said:
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as it's expected most of the heavyweights of Marvel - RDJ, Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, etc - will be departing the franchise after Avengers 4.

Marvel Phase 4 has Spiderman 2 and Guardians 3, but not much else. I think Black Panther and Captain Marvel are expected to be big franchises, but launching X-Men & Fantastic Four would immediately boost the whole thing up.

They have to do a total reboot of X-Men though.


before all of this, they said they had 20 more films upcoming. If this is finalized, im sure the uncanny xmen will be put in that list.
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eclipz928 : 12/8/2017 7:28 pm : link
In comment 13730468 Jay on the Island said:
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is if they reboot xmen, I loved Logan and how he ended but if they some how brought that world into MCU I only see it as one big mess.

hell, the Xmen universe was already a big mess, when they started doing the prequels and retconing a bunch of plot lines.

reboot the whole thing and do it right, I can see this as a perfect thing to set up after the whole Infinity War settles down


Agreed I am concerned that they will force the X-Men into the MCU I would prefer it if they kept the X-Men out of the MCU and in their own universe. I know it won't happen though. If they are going to add the XMen to the MCU after the Inifinity War makes the most sense. Perhaps they could swing it where organisms from the Thanos' alien army are responsible for the mutations in humans creating mutants.

The whole plot line of humans being afraid of mutants seems dumb to me now after the arrival and acceptance of Cap, Hulk, Captain Marvel, Spiderman, Black Panther, etc.

In the comic books, the sentiment that humans have towards mutants tends to alternate between fear and hate. The X-Men story is able to exist in the same reality as the Avengers because those characters are viewed just as humans that were "enhanced" by external circumstances. The angst towards the X-Men stems from the fact that they were born with their powers - they're not viewed as humans but a threat to human existence.
Sweep all the fox X-men stuff into the trash can  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/8/2017 8:15 pm : link
Never cared much for it other than Jackman's wolverine, and that's run it's course.
RE: I read somewhere that since Disney has (or will have)  
Jim in Fairfax : 12/8/2017 9:26 pm : link
In comment 13730489 Bill L said:
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its own streaming service, they are going to strip all all the Marvel series off of Netflix. So, we will be unable to watch the current(?) and next episodes of daredevil, jessica, etc.

True or not true?

There’s nothing official, but almost certainly that’s true. Of course, Netflix has contractual rights for some period, so it won’t be instantaneous.

But ultimately if you want to watch Marvel, Star Wars or anything Pixar (among others), you’ll have to subscribe to Disney’s service. I expect a lot of studios will follow a similar path.
The al a carte tv era  
Banks : 12/8/2017 9:40 pm : link
Is gonna push people right back to cable. It's getting too expensive to have these separate services
RE: The al a carte tv era  
UConn4523 : 12/8/2017 9:49 pm : link
In comment 13731009 Banks said:
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Is gonna push people right back to cable. It's getting too expensive to have these separate services


Yeah it’s still going to be expensive. If you only chose 1 or 2 you will make out well but the people that want most of the content will still be paying a lot. If you have say Netflix, Amazon, Disney streaming and HBO, that’s likely $60 per month before price increases which will always happen.
Maybe they are back in time  
spike : 12/8/2017 9:50 pm : link
To fight Thanos
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Jay on the Island : 12/9/2017 10:34 am : link
In comment 13730882 eclipz928 said:
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In the comic books, the sentiment that humans have towards mutants tends to alternate between fear and hate. The X-Men story is able to exist in the same reality as the Avengers because those characters are viewed just as humans that were "enhanced" by external circumstances. The angst towards the X-Men stems from the fact that they were born with their powers - they're not viewed as humans but a threat to human existence.


I am concerned that Marvel will try to force the X-Men into the MCU. How could they possibly introduce them this late in the game? Introducing them as if they were hiding behind their abilities all this time would be a terrible direction IMO. I would prefer that they keep the X-Men separate from the MCU. I would like to see the fantastic 4 added to the MCU mainly because of their villains. After Thanos there wasn't a real threat like him again but now that they have the rights to Galactus they could build him up as the next Apocalyptic villain.
Just get Jackman into  
Jim in Forest Hills : 12/9/2017 10:45 am : link
Infinity wars 2. There’s a way.
Growing up in the 90s, it was the X-Men that were Marvel's biggest  
732NYG : 12/9/2017 10:52 am : link
draw for me, especially the Animated Series. I feel that for the most part, Fox could have done a much better job adapting them to screen, with some exceptions (Days of Future Past, Logan). I could definitely see a scenario where the X-Men turn out to be major players in a post-Avengers MCU. I would love to see some legit adaptations of some of those stories. Even some of the weirder ones are now feasible with what Marvel has done with GotG and Ragnarok. Very exciting time to be a fan. Maybe we'll even get to see the yellow wolverine suit.
RE: Growing up in the 90s, it was the X-Men that were Marvel's biggest  
Jay on the Island : 12/9/2017 11:04 am : link
In comment 13731445 732NYG said:
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draw for me, especially the Animated Series. I feel that for the most part, Fox could have done a much better job adapting them to screen, with some exceptions (Days of Future Past, Logan). I could definitely see a scenario where the X-Men turn out to be major players in a post-Avengers MCU. I would love to see some legit adaptations of some of those stories. Even some of the weirder ones are now feasible with what Marvel has done with GotG and Ragnarok. Very exciting time to be a fan. Maybe we'll even get to see the yellow wolverine suit.

I think the only way to make the X-Men in the MCU work is if they introduce them as a genetic mutation due to contamination from the Aliens in Thanos' army. It affects humans in different ways with some being immune while many mutate. This would take quite a bit of past story lines out of the equation though.
There is an interesting fan theory from the Infinity war trailer  
Jay on the Island : 12/9/2017 11:11 am : link
The theory is that Pepper Potts is the one in the Iron Man suit when Thanos punches it. The shot kills her and that is why Tony is so torn up in the beginning of the trailer. It makes sense because Homecoming ends with the Iron Spider suit at the Avengers facility in which Pepper likely spends most of her time. The theory goes that Peter Parker is the first one near Thanos' oval ship and he quickly heads toward the Avengers facility to get the suit but Tony and Co are elsewhere. Peter decides to attempt to fight off Thanos by himself but Pepper decides to try to help the teenager and puts on the suit and arrives on scene.

RE: more important  
mdc1 : 12/10/2017 12:44 pm : link
In comment 13730435 giantfan2000 said:
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Fantastic Four will finally be in MCU


Some of the villains have been somewhat lame in these movies, fortunately the other cast has worked around it. Dr Doom is the ultimate Marvel villain and he needs to be introduced quickly and effectively. That will take their revenue over the top...
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Jay on the Island : 12/10/2017 4:13 pm : link
In comment 13732559 mdc1 said:
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Fantastic Four will finally be in MCU




Some of the villains have been somewhat lame in these movies, fortunately the other cast has worked around it. Dr Doom is the ultimate Marvel villain and he needs to be introduced quickly and effectively. That will take their revenue over the top...

My friend and I agreed that the best part of this deal is that Marvel has access to the fantastic 4 villains. Dr. Doom and Galactus could be the next two super villains in the MCU after Thanos is defeated.
One thing to keep in mind  
Jay on the Island : 12/10/2017 4:16 pm : link
I am sure this deal has been worked on for months. During this time Feige and the other heads likely wrote drafts introducing the villains, xmen and fantastic 4 into the MCU. We could see the next Inifinity War movie introduce the fantastic 4 or Dr. Doom/Galactus.
Both parts of the Avengers were filmed  
eclipz928 : 12/10/2017 5:48 pm : link
at the same time. Not likely feasible that a 20th century fox character would be introduced at this point except maybe for an inserted subtle reference, or a post credit scene.
Feige says  
spike : 12/10/2017 7:28 pm : link
The future Avengers will be space oriented.
Deal is complete....  
Italianju : 12/14/2017 10:45 am : link
pretty cool that Marvel basically has all of their properties back. Sure the spiderman situation is fluid, but Sony would be fools to break away from Marvel at this point. There was also some debate about whether the Fantastic four would be returned to marvel since some other company owned the production rights, but since they mentioned them specifically in the press release its safe to assume they are back.

I think it will still be a couple years before we see any characters in the MCU. And id expect almost everyone to be recast except probably the deadpool characters (or at least deadpool himself). Marvel has been introducing the multi verse. I wonder if they knew this deal was possible and they will use the multiverse to explain away the fox X-men universe. I know he still says he is done, but i would not be shocked to see something like Hugh Jackman's wolverine and Deadpool have to escape their universe (the fox one) and end up in the MCU. If not Jackman then maybe just deadpool, that explains why he is not being recast, ha.
This also worked out really well for Marvel...  
Italianju : 12/14/2017 10:46 am : link
in that they were trying to use the "inhumans" as a replacement for mutants. But that movie never got off the ground and the TV show was an epic disaster. Now they can just scrap that and call people mutants again.
Wish they could have gotten this done before Infinity War  
AnyoneButPhilly : 12/14/2017 10:48 am : link
That storyline needs Silver Surfer and the Fanstatic Four
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