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Stapleton: Five potential head coach/GM pairings

Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/8/2017 3:10 pm
Decent thoughts here...
Five potential head coach/GM pairings for New York Giants - ( New Window )
after McAdoo  
Rocky369 : 12/8/2017 3:14 pm : link
does DeFilipo really stand a chance without any experience even as a coordinator?
I like what Minnesota is doing  
Tom from LI : 12/8/2017 3:24 pm : link
I would give that pairing a chance...
My hope is  
Chris684 : 12/8/2017 3:27 pm : link
Wolf/Shaw.

After that, of the ones listed here I'd go

Riddick/Saban-Biggest drawback Saban's age.

Gettleman/Smith- Smith's game management in big games.

Caserio/McDaniels- Biggest drawback McDaniels and Pats records without each other.
RE: My hope is  
Rjanyg : 12/8/2017 3:31 pm : link
In comment 13730613 Chris684 said:
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Wolf/Shaw.

After that, of the ones listed here I'd go

Riddick/Saban-Biggest drawback Saban's age.

Gettleman/Smith- Smith's game management in big games.

Caserio/McDaniels- Biggest drawback McDaniels and Pats records without each other.


I like Riddick. He seems very smart and I think he might be the best thing about ESPN, which isn't say much I know.
RE: My hope is  
jvm52106 : 12/8/2017 3:34 pm : link
In comment 13730613 Chris684 said:
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Wolf/Shaw.

After that, of the ones listed here I'd go

Riddick/Saban-Biggest drawback Saban's age.

Gettleman/Smith- Smith's game management in big games.

Caserio/McDaniels- Biggest drawback McDaniels and Pats records without each other.


The McDaniels negatives you listed are just BS mentioned by others in previous posts. I am tied of hearing that shit. The Pats have been a successful franchise period but their offense put up huge numbers under McDaniels. Plus, when he wasn't there, they were still running his offense... Besides, McDaniels biggest issue was he tried to take Tebow and make him an NFL QB. That being said, he did things with Tebow that were successful. The one area he couldn't change was Tebow's passing skills. But, game planning and using plays that allowed his strengths to come through were evident.

Riddick McDaniels  
Thegratefulhead : 12/8/2017 3:36 pm : link
That is my dream team. McDaniels would exploit the mismatch Engram provides. I want someone who builds an offense around the talent rather force a square peg into a round hole.
out of those 5  
larryflower37 : 12/8/2017 3:41 pm : link
Riddick/Saban- If Saban committed to coming to the NFL, I don't think he would fail this time. Probably last stop.

Caserio/McDaniels- Younger and more aggressive with a chip on their shoulders. McDaniels is creative. I think they draft Lamar Jackson. McDaniels wants to build a cutting-edge offense. (look at Tebow in Denver).

I would be happy with both
of those pairings  
bluepepper : 12/8/2017 3:42 pm : link
I'd go with Paton/Shurmur mainly because of Paton but also because Shurmur is growing on me. Surprised that he's only 52. Seems like he's been around forever. Like what he's doing in Minny and since Zimmer is a defensive guy you know he's the driving force behind the O. Probably deserves a 2nd shot at HC and Cleveland is a tough spot so wouldn't hold that failure rule him out.
My ideal pairing would be DeCosta and Shaw.  
Vincenzo : 12/8/2017 3:45 pm : link
They have both been hesitant to leave in the past, but the Giant openings are about as attractive as they come.

Blue blood franchise, major market, vet HOF QB in place, top 3 draft pick in a strong QB year, patient ownership, stud HOF potential receiver, All-Pro potential players scattered throughout the roster etc.

Shaw also spent 4 years in Baltimore coaching QBs/WRs during DeCosta's tenure, so there in familiarity.

Seems like a home run pairing in my book.
RE: after McAdoo  
The_Boss : 12/8/2017 4:06 pm : link
In comment 13730590 Rocky369 said:
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does DeFilipo really stand a chance without any experience even as a coordinator?


In a Chicago newspaper this past weekend, Brian Baldinger was absolutely raving about him.
The youthful appeal of both Wolf and DeFilipo  
The_Boss : 12/8/2017 4:11 pm : link
Is very intriguing. That’s my preferred combination, which also means it has zero chance of coming to fruition.
Shurmur won 9 games with the Browns in two seasons?  
Boy Cord : 12/8/2017 4:24 pm : link
Sign me up. That makes him a miracle worker.
if Smith was viewed  
santacruzom : 12/8/2017 4:38 pm : link
as a close second to McAdoo, I'm highly skeptical of the system they use to evaluate coaches in the first place.
Mara  
Michael 123 : 12/8/2017 5:24 pm : link
Better not screw thus up. Absolutely no way to Gettleman and Smith, or either individual. Has to be outside the comfort zone, or else you’ll have the same problems as currently exist.
RE: The youthful appeal of both Wolf and DeFilipo  
Jay on the Island : 12/8/2017 5:37 pm : link
In comment 13730700 The_Boss said:
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Is very intriguing. That’s my preferred combination, which also means it has zero chance of coming to fruition.

I doubt the Giants go with that much youth unless they bring in someone like Gettleman or McCloughan as assistant GM or director of personnel, etc. It could work if DeFilippo agrees to bring in a OC or DC with HC experience.
RE: if Smith was viewed  
Jay on the Island : 12/8/2017 5:38 pm : link
In comment 13730738 santacruzom said:
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as a close second to McAdoo, I'm highly skeptical of the system they use to evaluate coaches in the first place.

Agreed I have no idea what the Giants see in Mike Smith. He is a solid coordinator but he shouldn't be a candidate for HC.
intrigued by Bevell  
bc4life : 12/8/2017 6:03 pm : link
Seahawks always competitive, Carroll says he grooms his assistants to be head coaches, Carroll's other disciple -Quinn having success.

Seahawks and Falcons play fast and physical.
No to Defillippo and Wolf  
WillVAB : 12/8/2017 6:22 pm : link
There’s nothing to get excited about re: the Packers roster and not worth the risk of another McAdoo situation with a guy with very limited experience.
bad pairings  
mdc1 : 12/8/2017 7:45 pm : link
and some that are not realistic (Saban)
RE: My ideal pairing would be DeCosta and Shaw.  
Emlen'sGremlins : 12/8/2017 8:08 pm : link
+1!

Vincenzo said:
They have both been hesitant to leave in the past, but the Giant openings are about as attractive as they come.

Blue blood franchise, major market, vet HOF QB in place, top 3 draft pick in a strong QB year, patient ownership, stud HOF potential receiver, All-Pro potential players scattered throughout the roster etc.

Shaw also spent 4 years in Baltimore coaching QBs/WRs during DeCosta's tenure, so there in familiarity.

Seems like a home run pairing in my book. [/quote]
I'm All In On Saban  
Bernie : 12/8/2017 8:15 pm : link
He was on the right path in Miami and he has nothing left to accomplish at Alabama. I think he would be highly motivated if he were to come to the Giants
RE: My hope is  
Ned In Atlanta : 12/8/2017 8:22 pm : link
In comment 13730613 Chris684 said:
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Wolf/Shaw.

After that, of the ones listed here I'd go

Riddick/Saban-Biggest drawback Saban's age.

Gettleman/Smith- Smith's game management in big games.

Caserio/McDaniels- Biggest drawback McDaniels and Pats records without each other.



If we hire Mike Smith my head might explode. He's old, not particularly charismatic and currently presides over arguably the worst defense in the NFL. Besides John Mara liking him (which obviously counts for a lot),from a fan's perspective, what makes him an even remotely attractive potential hire? I'm legitimately curious
Smith, the guy that lost out to McAdoo,  
RottenApple : 12/8/2017 8:28 pm : link
and Gettleman. Christ, what a match made in hell that would be. Though, it sounds like a Mara pick.
Paton is definitely interesting.  
Powerclean765 : 12/8/2017 9:21 pm : link
The Vikings built a very Giants-like team. Great D with big, physical athletes.
I thought they had everything until Bridgewater got hurt.

Building a team in that mold is what the Giants need, IMO. Play to the conditions of the northeast.
RE: My hope is  
Sarcastic Sam : 12/8/2017 9:26 pm : link
In comment 13730613 Chris684 said:
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Wolf/Shaw.

After that, of the ones listed here I'd go

Riddick/Saban-Biggest drawback Saban's age.

Gettleman/Smith- Smith's game management in big games.

Caserio/McDaniels- Biggest drawback McDaniels and Pats records without each other.


Belichick never won a SB without McDaniels. Just sayin'.
You mean as a HC obviously  
idiotsavant : 12/9/2017 1:16 pm : link
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Shurmer WCO  
jbeintherockies : 12/9/2017 2:23 pm : link
Explains wco (2 articles)

http://m.startribune.com/pat-shurmur-s-unpredictable-creative-vikings-offense-is-catching-fire/457309113/


Link - ( New Window )
just a feeling Saban and a compatible gm  
micky : 12/9/2017 2:32 pm : link
would make this team have considerable success come draft time with Saban knowing and dealing with the college players for years ala Pete Carroll when he came back to the nfl
I sure as hell know nobody in the Atlanta organization  
Jimmy Googs : 12/9/2017 2:36 pm : link
misses Mike Smith...
If the buyout for Saban at Bama is accurately reported  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/9/2017 3:15 pm : link
There is no shot in hell of the Giants paying $28 million just to be able to hire a coach. Non-starter. Not happening.
Give me Paton and Shurmer  
jeff57 : 12/9/2017 6:30 pm : link
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Article reference to McVey  
jbeintherockies : 12/9/2017 7:33 pm : link
"Sure, there might be some trepidation about the fact that DeFilippo has never been a coordinator - let alone a head coach - but the Rams' Sean McVay could be opening doors for such youth movement."

McVey was an OC for the Redskins for several years prior to becoming the HC for the Rams. Just saying.
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